dephh has only gone positive on an international stage in 3/20 maps, two of those maps only going +1
he also has a lower overall KD (0.84 in 85 maps) than other NA IGLs when you look at their respective roles, with only a positive KD on ONE agent played over 5 maps.
Shahzam: 1.13 KD on 161 maps on an IGL role
Valyn: over 1.09 KD on 364 maps between 3 controller agents
Zander: over 1.0 KD across 9 agents on 396 maps
Rossy: over 1.0 across 11 agents on 353 maps
please drop
One thing I am really upset about with SENTINELS is that they sort listed Dephh for this roaster while the best players, analysts and coaches are sitting in VLR threads section. ROB MOORE please consider the heroes from VLR threads section for your next roaster if you want to win big in VCT and make AMERICA proud.
Name RD Rating ACS K/D ADR KPR APR DPR HS
Rory "Dephh" Jackson 5683 1 197.9 1.02 129.8 0.7 0.27 0.68 24.60%
Pujan "FNS" Mehta 7190 0.86 179 0.9 117.5 0.62 0.26 0.68 20.60%P.S. If you're trying to present yourself as bright, then with all due respect, remain f-ing bright till the end!... And please, don't forget to provide us with a more in-depth analysis (of yours ofc) on IGL issues in NA, or you might seem a bit BIASED(?) - if you know what I mean... But wait, you aren't biased, are you?
I love this dude 🤣
Bro fr spewed misinformation and thought no one would realize, was abt to check so thx for this.
I think ppl are really underrating dephh but for the wrong reasons. I get that he isn't a fragging igl and whatever idrc, but the issue is that on xset he was only IGLing HALF the maps. So only on atk (I'm p sure ayrin was Def), and idk how it's gonna play out in the long run considering it seemed like Sen only had good attack halves.
Shame to see so many people hate on him but I get the worry cause theres only 1 masters this year and it's gonna feel like another wasted year if Sen dont prove themselves as fast as they can manage.
If they don't qual from masters, lcq is gonna be a brutal fight for the last spot.
This type of behaviour is quite regular and seasonal here...
The only thing I don't understand is why phrases like "please drop," "repair," or "get rid of..." shoud sound so harsh. For some reason, it feels like the underlying tone is constantly nasty in these sort of posts.
Many people forget or don't understand that it's a f-ing game, and games are typically unpredictable in nature... No matter how much orgs try to sway the chances in their favour by luring attractive players, IGLs, or coaching/analytics, they can never be certain of the outcome - no matter what! But, no, on here we're all full of judgements (including myself ofc), though some of us still doing great job in keeping our judgments to ourselves - especially when it comes to judging pro-Valorant players etc.
To add, while looking at IGLs, the OP at least looked at some data and did their best (respect here), however the main factor in their analysis was/is wrong, since fragging power does not equate trophies (general trend.) Adding more fragging power(controllable indicator) to the team certainly helps in terms of impact, but it is not synonymous with winning... and such is the nature of probabilistic environments known as games. Had anyone known how to build a successfull team from the get go, we'd be all on the mount Olympus sipping champagne 24/7.
Additionally, when looking at IGLs data, people manage to ignore coaching stuff, as if IGLs were acting solely on their own. This is another factor that is heavily overlooked by some when ANALysing IGLs of the game... yet this coach/IGL factor is considered to be very important, let alone, people also forget to look at the historical success in such ANALysis, and fully neglect on strength of the teams that those players/teams in question played against... too many conditions are ignored, hence we get such reports/analysis which are of the lowest quality possible - like the one presented by the OP. MASSIVE SADGE, bro!
Absolutely, and this is the exact message I'm trying to express here. Too many dimensions were being neglected in the analysis by the OP, yet they appeal to such harsh meassures based on not even the half-assed anlysis to decide the impact of the said player... PERIOD.
Though, please disregard my double meaning and "being a dick" approach. All is done in a good cause <3
in my post i never imply that fragging power = wins, nor that it is the most important factor to get a win -- the message i was trying to get across is that there were better options in NA, and didn't even list the options out of NA.
i only included KD because the difference in KD between dephh and the other IGLs i mentioned amazed me when i looked at the data, especially because i feel at least two of the igls i mentioned (shaz, valyn) have proven themselves more than dephh not only in KD, but IGLing ability, so i'm not sure why SEN didn't just at the very least stick with shaz.
Never mind, you just touched a highly delicate subject... all that could be stated is that while judging a player, maybe try to be a bit more objective. If you had not included the phrase "please drop," all questions would have been dropped. I mean, Dephh just played his first official game with the team, but some severely criticising him already... yet still and without any doubt, everyone is entitled to their opinion, no matter how absurd or insightful they may sound.
In terms of your question, Shahz will never return to SEN owing to a conflict with CEO Bob Moore... Valyn was in contract with the Guard at the time...Zander and Rossy also were taken.
And please don't forget about the original SEN-XSET deal that brought in Dephh, Zekken, and SyykoNT from the ex-XSET roster to SEN. Perhaps the conditions of this deal were agreed upon and weighted according to favourable feedback from the industry – no surprise here, as XSET received a lot of great praise at the time for very much deserved reasons.
Yea of course it does cause if you have 100 cannons but only 1 operator you still only have the firepower of a single cannon. I do believe and agree that dephh made mistakes. I also think sykko and the staff aren't playing to their strengths and they're trying to play "proper" valorant. However I don't think that the igl in this case would've changed much against FNC. I think FNC were just a different beast and that they just had an answer to everything Sen did. Sen definitely adapted quite a bit but I don't think they're comfortable with each other yet that they can all contribute and make each other play better off simple chemistry.
It's a long process and they'll get there but they definitely don't need to drop dephh
At the very least, could you maybe STFU already... LOL talking out of your ass like it's some kind of celebration.
HERE dumbo, especially for your slow brain and those who think 31 is almost 40, print the below dates on your forehead so that every morning you will recall the correct age of said IGLs in the game:
inb4: Oh, what... you're not happy with such suggestion???
All players that you listed plays way better than depph my brother.
All these players are great IGL + AIM
I'm saying that he is old and can't do IGL, can't AIM
Depph has no growth potential at all anymore
where does he fit? nowhere.
Even Jessie is way better AIM than depph, depph was never good at AIM and never good at IGL too he is just being paycheck stealer now.
He doesn't have any positive point to stay in SEN in this moment.
I'll break it down for you below, so stick with me:
"All players that you listed plays way better than Depph my brother. I'm saying that he is old and can't do IGL, can't AIM"
Forgive me for disagreeing with you, as I beleive your statement to be entirely your uninformed opinion (with all due respect) on the topic to which you've been committed… However, if we were to look at it realistically, we would discover a great deal of contradiction in your statement. What it looks to me, you clearly have not compared his performance to those guys, instead basing your opinion on your emotional reaction to watching his games live. This is not entirely wrong or a bad approach, but it is insufficient in its core for such а strong statement!
"Depph has no growth potential at all anymore; where does he fit? Nowhere?"
In the case of Depph, the initial goal, I beleive, was to adapt previously capable players/coach from another team - XSET to allow them to construct suitable disciplinal framework in SEN, because prior players/stuff were out of touch with structural framework. This sort of foundation is required in any organisation to enable the type of GROWTH (that you propose) for present players as well as emerging prospects. SEN require a functional framework in place, and XSET has demonstrated competence in such matters in the past, when they effectively constructed the roster from the ground up to become the top NA contender - they were on the F-ing rise back then!
"Even Jessie is way better AIM than Depph, Depph was never good at AIM and never good at IGL too he is just being pay check stealer now. He doesn't have any positive point to stay in SEN in this moment."
It's not just a matter of AIM, but also of IGL skills, and Dephh had demonstrated excellent IGL skills in the past. In general, I disagree with your AIM remark because Dephh scored HS 28% amongst the best of aimers (see below list) during previous Champions 2022 in Istanbul. It's up to you whether you agree or disagree, but HS% is the only indicator in the game that suggests the most efficient outcome for the player during duels - the faster the enemy falls, the better chances you have to store your health and the health of your teammates, hence HS% is one of the most crucial indicators, also to assess one's aim capability.
Positive points are also subjective since, despite the fact that we are all BALLS DEEP in the current drama, we have no f-ing realistic picture of the situation - only simply he said, she said.
Head Shot % From Valorant Champions 2022 in Istanbul:
Shao;30% f0rsakeN;30% ScreaM;29% Mazino;29% Marved;29% dephh;28% Zyppan;27%
T-lilla;27% keznit;27% Mazin;27% yay;26% crashies;26% crashies;26% BuZz;26%
Melser;26% Victor;25% Sacy;25% Less;25% Alfajer;25% Shyy;25% aspas;24%
Cryo;24% zekken;24% kiNgg;23% Asuna;22% Klaus;22% sScary;22% FNS;21%
saadhak;21% ardiis;21% Sushiboys;21%To wrap it up, direct age discrimination, as I see it extremely often on here, leads to very unpleasant harassment, which is inherently unacceptable, whether in Valorant or any organization. Therefore, please, stop believing nonsense and start thinking with your head!
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