aside from cryo, the team was pretty mid. The only reason they were good was cryo and their chemistry
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Mortadelo [#2]Zekken in goated stop overreacting
im saying bro everyone wants to minimize a player as soon as they have one bad series. Same with yay on optic vs guild.
No they aren't. Xset is the only team that ran a squad that was near optic level.
Zekken wasn't the issue. Sentinels' GM is. This team has so much role overlap it is shocking. Not only that, they are trying to be comparable to optic core in flexibility, but none of these players beyond zekken are known for anything besides their main role unlike crashies/victor/fns. That is why the optic core will always be contending for finals.
Hell, idk what more people need for people to realize tenz isn't it, and I think he can be happy even knowing that. IMO it was a mistake to rebuild around him
artofsteal [#9]No they aren't. Xset is the only team that ran a squad that was near optic level.
Zekken wasn't the issue. Sentinels' GM is. This team has so much role overlap it is shocking. Not only that, they are trying to be comparable to optic core in flexibility, but none of these players beyond zekken are known for anything besides their main role unlike crashies/victor/fns. That is why the optic core will always be contending for finals.
Hell, idk what more people need for people to realize tenz isn't it, and I think he can be happy even knowing that. IMO it was a mistake to rebuild around him
SEN atm have : a pure sentinel ,a pure controller, a pure initiator, a flex/entry and a flex/duelist
role overlap where?
jawn [#10]SEN atm have : a pure sentinel ,a pure controller, a pure initiator, a flex/entry and a flex/duelist
role overlap where?
Dephh: wants to play hard initiator like kayo or Astra or cypher
Sacy: pure initiator.
Pancada: pure controller.
Tenz: he's playing sage now on some maps (dephh def not playing Cypher or breach on split is shocking)
Zekken: flex dualist, one of his best characters being Jett and the other being scan initiator sova.
Tenz: jett and sage
Dephh: he likes playing hard initiator as mentioned so breach
Sacy:already on the hard initiator...
artofsteal [#11]Dephh: wants to play hard initiator like kayo or Astra or cypher
Sacy: pure initiator.
Pancada: pure controller.
Tenz: he's playing sage now on some maps (dephh def not playing Cypher or breach on split is shocking)Zekken: flex dualist, one of his best characters being Jett and the other being scan initiator sova.
Tenz: jett and sage
Dephh: he likes playing hard initiator as mentioned so breach
Sacy:already on the hard initiator...
where did the narrative that depph wants to play ini pop-up?
artofsteal [#11]Dephh: wants to play hard initiator like kayo or Astra or cypher
Sacy: pure initiator.
Pancada: pure controller.
Tenz: he's playing sage now on some maps (dephh def not playing Cypher or breach on split is shocking)Zekken: flex dualist, one of his best characters being Jett and the other being scan initiator sova.
Tenz: jett and sage
Dephh: he likes playing hard initiator as mentioned so breach
Sacy:already on the hard initiator...
dephh’s three most played agents by far are astra, cypher, and killjoy. he flexed to init last year because of chamber meta…
Cresp [#7]im saying bro everyone wants to minimize a player as soon as they have one bad series. Same with yay on optic vs guild.
he is mid!!!
jawn [#14]where did the narrative that depph wants to play ini pop-up?
he flexed breach/kayo in the past on xset so im giving the other guy supporting evidence of flexibility but even then it is rough to fit the pieces in
inkie [#16]he is mid!!!
No he is not!!!! He had a bad match, hes 17 and is already a prodigy
He’ll be great in the league
Diitto [#15]dephh’s three most played agents by far are astra, cypher, and killjoy. he flexed to init last year because of chamber meta…
ok and I understand that. But if his 3 this year are a controller and 2 sentinels, how does that fit in now with a pure controller player and tenz who will probably take the sentinel when jett isn't viable? It didn't look good on split and last year, he wasn't the one playing KJ, that was mainly Ayrin while he played fucking breach or kayo (at least during champs and copenhagen)....
Mortadelo [#2]Zekken in goated stop overreacting
goated? wake up, before cryo come to xset that team like t2
artofsteal [#17]he flexed breach/kayo in the past on xset so im giving the other guy supporting evidence of flexibility but even then it is rough to fit the pieces in
that's literally just the chamber meta making most sentinel players initiators, dephh is a pure sentinel
artofsteal [#11]Dephh: wants to play hard initiator like kayo or Astra or cypher
Sacy: pure initiator.
Pancada: pure controller.
Tenz: he's playing sage now on some maps (dephh def not playing Cypher or breach on split is shocking)Zekken: flex dualist, one of his best characters being Jett and the other being scan initiator sova.
Tenz: jett and sage
Dephh: he likes playing hard initiator as mentioned so breach
Sacy:already on the hard initiator...
Dephh is a sentinel player since day 1 he learned flash initiators bc the meta was to put the opper on sentinel. But he was always a cypher and kj player. The only thing abt him is instead of viper he prefers the astra on double controller maps. Tenz needs to flex off jett just like every other opper like cryo who played omen. Zekken has always been flex and good on entry role like raze and neon. Sacy is hard ini and can play all of them except kayo?
giantnutsack12345 [#20]you the guy from tiktok who goes "that shit look like a medkit"
my comment was bait bro lmao
Cresp [#25]Dephh is a sentinel player since day 1 he learned flash initiators bc the meta was to put the opper on sentinel. But he was always a cypher and kj player. The only thing abt him is instead of viper he prefers the astra on double controller maps. Tenz needs to flex off jett just like every other opper like cryo who played omen. Zekken has always been flex and good on entry role like raze and neon. Sacy is hard ini and can play all of them except kayo?
Ok let me flesh this out a bit and give you why I really doubt sentinels' flexibility.
Let us look at nrg who has hard role players.
Ardis - sage/jett
Crashies - sentinel/initiator - known for init.
Fns - sentinel/init - known for sentinel
Victor - sen/init/2nd duelist known for mainly 2nd duelist
s0m - controller
Notice how all the flex players enable the hard role players to keep playing their role and if they take away one, they can alternate amongst themselves. Especially notice if ardis wants sentinel, victor is suddenly enabled...4 of their players are pretty much ALWAYS in ideal roles (notice how init is specifically flexed between role players where 2 inits is very common)
Sen:
Dephh - best role is sen as you said. 2nd best char is controller
Pancada - hard controller
Zekken - best chars are sova and 2nd duelist
Sacy - hard init
Tenz - hard duelist with sage i guess even though he's never shown that before...
Dephh is fucked if tenz needs to ever not go jett UNLESS a 2nd controller is somewhat viable?? And you want zekken to play hard init when he was the 2nd or 1st man in on xset as the costar?? (2nd time ever on breach btw, which is a lot more of a selfless character). The role players DO NOT SHARE a role pool and instead share with role anchor players. And that anchor players in my eyes.
This is why i doubt sen so much. The pieces are good but I don't think this team gels well unless they can vastly improve in their new roles
artofsteal [#9]No they aren't. Xset is the only team that ran a squad that was near optic level.
Zekken wasn't the issue. Sentinels' GM is. This team has so much role overlap it is shocking. Not only that, they are trying to be comparable to optic core in flexibility, but none of these players beyond zekken are known for anything besides their main role unlike crashies/victor/fns. That is why the optic core will always be contending for finals.
Hell, idk what more people need for people to realize tenz isn't it, and I think he can be happy even knowing that. IMO it was a mistake to rebuild around him
tenz is a one trick jett, gives SEOLDAM energy. kick tenz, kick dephh, + valyn + consistent duelist that can play good KJ/sage
cryo is dogshit lol, ill never forget when he got humbled by LEV
they just had a good team chemestry and a good igl forgot his name, whos in GE now, and they were only good in NA which even the guard won trophies, so that doesnt say much
this said, i think SEN is gonna do well on the league (qualifying to masters should be their goal, no matter if #1 or #3)
sylv1o [#31]cryo is dogshit lol, ill never forget when he got humbled by LEV
they just had a good team chemestry and a good igl forgot his name, whos in GE now, and they were only good in NA which even the guard won trophies, so that doesnt say much
this said, i think SEN is gonna do well on the league (qualifying to masters should be their goal, no matter if #1 or #3)
humble make u can straight in rough game
basic thing in competitive u can hate him
Winning in the end is all that matters
Zekken don't have energy like that why he fail consistent
Sita_MOE [#32]humble make u can straight in rough game
basic thing in competitive u can hate him
Winning in the end is all that matters
Zekken don't have energy like that why he fail consistent
cryo wasn't humble AND got eliminated lil bro, im all for screaming and hyping/banter ingame, cryo was arrogant outside, he had to understand his place
sylv1o [#35]cryo wasn't humble AND got eliminated lil bro, im all for screaming and hyping/banter ingame, cryo was arrogant outside, he had to understand his place
Where was cryo arrogant outside the game ? Don't tell me you're talking about the first bump
aylez [#29]tenz is a one trick jett, gives SEOLDAM energy. kick tenz, kick dephh, + valyn + consistent duelist that can play good KJ/sage
aspas is a one trick jett and no one gives him shit for it bc its worked at the highest level you know why? world class setup from LOUD. now that the meta has shifted back to jett, yall still wanna point out his lack of flexibility instead of how well he is being set up?
turkey [#6]zekken one bad game everyone going crazy
Zekken had 1 decent tourney and everyone went crazy
Dokka [#18]No he is not!!!! He had a bad match, hes 17 and is already a prodigy
He’ll be great in the league
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