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#1
KRATOSmimir21

Why does everyone think Fnatic will destroy SEN? Like should it not be a 50/50

Tenz =< Derke (Slight Margin)
Sacy >>> Leo (Sacy was great throughout all of Champs. Leo only great during groups of Copenhagen)
Pancada >>>>>> Boaster (Do I even need to say anything)
Zekken > Chronicle (Zekken has way better experience and skill on flex)
Dephh <<<<< Alfajer (Obvious as well)

SEN Coaches > Fnatic Coaches

Finally, they will have practiced for the same amount of time.

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benmaimoon
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because they will

#3
n1cf
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TenZ < Derke
Sacy <<< Leo
Pancada < Boaster
Zekken <<<<< Chronicle
Deph <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Alfajer

Fnatic diffs hard

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capital_d_colon
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how have they practised for the same amount of time?
fnatic have had this 3 man core and coaches for over 6 months?

#5
Okoretro
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Wrong
Sacy =< Leo
Dephh <<< Alfajer
Zekken < Chronicle (chronicle is not playing flex for fnatic)

#6
benmaimoon
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n1cf [#3]

TenZ < Derke
Sacy <<< Leo
Pancada < Boaster
Zekken <<<<< Chronicle
Deph <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Alfajer

Fnatic diffs hard

this is unbiased obviously

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KRATOSmimir21
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Okoretro [#5]

Wrong
Sacy =< Leo
Dephh <<< Alfajer
Zekken < Chronicle (chronicle is not playing flex for fnatic)

based on another post it seemed like he was.

#8
nutab1e
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tsm beat sen btw

shit ur pants and cope more

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Okoretro
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KRATOSmimir21 [#7]

based on another post it seemed like he was.

according to the coach he will be playing recon initiator (thats what he said on twitter)

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wafters
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alfajer drop 100 thats why

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KRATOSmimir21
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Okoretro [#9]

according to the coach he will be playing recon initiator (thats what he said on twitter)

Isn't that Leo?

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RickyIndian
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capital_d_colon [#4]

how have they practised for the same amount of time?
fnatic have had this 3 man core and coaches for over 6 months?

mini said they started prac around the same time that SEN got to LA

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n1cf
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benmaimoon [#6]

this is unbiased obviously

i mean... look at my nickname how can it be biased right?

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KRATOSmimir21
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how have they practised for the same amount of time?
fnatic have had this 3 man core and coaches for over 6 months?

Yea mini their coach literally said they started practice around the same time as SEN.

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KRATOSmimir21 [#11]

Isn't that Leo?

Leo will be playing flash initiators
and Derke on Raze

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Okoretro [#15]

Leo will be playing flash initiators
and Derke on Raze

Gotcha.

#17
ortuh
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No way do you think sens coaching staff is better than fnatics

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RickyIndian [#12]

mini said they started prac around the same time that SEN got to LA

but still this is a whole new sentinel roster. completely new ideas getting used to comms and setups.
they are creating an entirely new system

compared to fnatic who have kept their igl coaching staff + derke + alfajer. they are trying to slot 2 players into the fnatic system.

maybe theyve been scrimming for the same amount of time but i still feel like fnatic have an advantage in that sense

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Adi69LassiSeller
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Stopped reading at

Tenz=<Derke

I mean wtf? Why are you underestimating TenZ? Lol
He was good it's just his teammates were trash lol. Can't do anything with ratzam and trash dapr in the team bringing negative vibes.
As a Former/Ex-Sentinels fan we the Sentinels fanbase would like to disown KRATOSmimir21, Please logout. You know nothing about TenZ. You have hurted the sentiments of TenZ fans and I would like you to gladly accept the mistakes you have committed and willingly accept the punishment for your bad deeds towards the official TenZ fanbase.

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Adi69LassiSeller [#19]

Stopped reading at

Tenz=<Derke

I mean wtf? Why are you underestimating TenZ? Lol
He was good it's just his teammates were trash lol. Can't do anything with ratzam and trash dapr in the team bringing negative vibes.
As a Former/Ex-Sentinels fan we the Sentinels fanbase would like to disown KRATOSmimir21, Please logout. You know nothing about TenZ. You have hurted the sentiments of TenZ fans and I would like you to gladly accept the mistakes you have committed and willingly accept the punishment for your bad deeds towards the official TenZ fanbase.

bro he doesnt have a lot of depth

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Adi69LassiSeller [#19]

Stopped reading at

Tenz=<Derke

I mean wtf? Why are you underestimating TenZ? Lol
He was good it's just his teammates were trash lol. Can't do anything with ratzam and trash dapr in the team bringing negative vibes.
As a Former/Ex-Sentinels fan we the Sentinels fanbase would like to disown KRATOSmimir21, Please logout. You know nothing about TenZ. You have hurted the sentiments of TenZ fans and I would like you to gladly accept the mistakes you have committed and willingly accept the punishment for your bad deeds towards the official TenZ fanbase.

bro never watched derke it seems

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ortuh
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Adi69LassiSeller [#19]

Stopped reading at

Tenz=<Derke

I mean wtf? Why are you underestimating TenZ? Lol
He was good it's just his teammates were trash lol. Can't do anything with ratzam and trash dapr in the team bringing negative vibes.
As a Former/Ex-Sentinels fan we the Sentinels fanbase would like to disown KRATOSmimir21, Please logout. You know nothing about TenZ. You have hurted the sentiments of TenZ fans and I would like you to gladly accept the mistakes you have committed and willingly accept the punishment for your bad deeds towards the official TenZ fanbase.

bro forgot that split is back in the map pool

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KRATOSmimir21
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Adi69LassiSeller [#19]

Stopped reading at

Tenz=<Derke

I mean wtf? Why are you underestimating TenZ? Lol
He was good it's just his teammates were trash lol. Can't do anything with ratzam and trash dapr in the team bringing negative vibes.
As a Former/Ex-Sentinels fan we the Sentinels fanbase would like to disown KRATOSmimir21, Please logout. You know nothing about TenZ. You have hurted the sentiments of TenZ fans and I would like you to gladly accept the mistakes you have committed and willingly accept the punishment for your bad deeds towards the official TenZ fanbase.

bro, I am a SEN fan. i never underestiate tenz. I do think he is equal. should've said my truth. I'm just less than or equal cause of the shit i would get

plus it's not underestimating Tenz. Derke is an amazing player as well

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hekzy
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"zekken > chronicle" is a travesty to be honest.
Rest I agree with

#25
Adi69LassiSeller
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benmaimoon [#21]

bro never watched derke it seems

Since first Masters ;) I haven't missed a single FNC game.
Derke always chokes on the highest stage + he is flexible as a duelist but has low highs and no lows(i.e very consistent). He's consistent but not always the best in the event.
He's really a good player but there's always someone who does better than him in every Riot official event.

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ortuh [#22]

bro forgot that split is back in the map pool

Zekken gonna play raze no worries:)

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Okoretro [#20]

bro he doesnt have a lot of depth

Ik but but he's TenZ 😈. The God's own son.
He may not have depth and he is not a flexible Duelist. But does that matter? No
Because his Jett and kayo are arguably the best in the world. Haha

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Adi69LassiSeller [#26]

Zekken gonna play raze no worries:)

And what is tenz gonna play? Reyna?

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hekzy [#28]

And what is tenz gonna play? Reyna?

Eh? Why not? Tbh in master 1 Iceland TenZ played Reyna better than Jett . His statsspeak for himself

#30
andrewdamf
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derke>tenz (obvious)
leo>sacy (better aim + more consistent + best rated initiator player of all time, even on sova leo destroys)
pancada>boaster (obvious)
chronicle>zekken (obvious)
alfajer > deph (obvious)

#31
Okoretro
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Adi69LassiSeller [#29]

Eh? Why not? Tbh in master 1 Iceland TenZ played Reyna better than Jett . His statsspeak for himself

You can’t be serious right

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wafters
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            • FIRST OF ALL

NEVER DID I SEE IT AGAIN-:?

  1. BING FUN CHEESE
    WITH THE STICKS N EGGS
#33
benmaimoon
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Adi69LassiSeller [#25]

Since first Masters ;) I haven't missed a single FNC game.
Derke always chokes on the highest stage + he is flexible as a duelist but has low highs and no lows(i.e very consistent). He's consistent but not always the best in the event.
He's really a good player but there's always someone who does better than him in every Riot official event.

sorry for my stupid opinion bro i just watched tenz stream and actually he is looking good on rankeds. he is definitely way better than derke. i can confidently say that. we have never seen tenz on high stage for a few years but never mind it's all his teams fault. i bet tenz will never choke on high stage matches. if he chokes it's gonna be his teammates fault for sure. again and again im so sorry for defending L player derke. im pretty sure he will choke again against tenz(aka the ranked beast)

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andrewdamf [#30]

derke>tenz (obvious)
leo>sacy (better aim + more consistent + best rated initiator player of all time, even on sova leo destroys)
pancada>boaster (obvious)
chronicle>zekken (obvious)
alfajer > deph (obvious)

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#35
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Zekken <<<<<<<<<<<<Chronicle

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Okoretro [#20]

bro he doesnt have a lot of depth

or you can say he doesn't have a lot of Dephh

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ortuh [#17]

No way do you think sens coaching staff is better than fnatics

sentinel actually have a really good coaching staff.
honestly could be better than fnatics

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PigExe
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lmao it's just a bunch of plat shitters with garbage opinion think that by posting that FNC is better then SEN on an online forum and getting enough upvotes will make their fathers come back so they don't have to eat the dry cereal at their breakfast table and maybe say that they are proud of them for getting the 2 upvotes that SEN players are totally going to see and be very pissed off at and they are just going to play worse against FNC.
Your opinion doesn't matter if it is on the website with the most clowns

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nutab1e
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PigExe [#39]

lmao it's just a bunch of plat shitters with garbage opinion think that by posting that FNC is better then SEN on an online forum and getting enough upvotes will make their fathers come back so they don't have to eat the dry cereal at their breakfast table and maybe say that they are proud of them for getting the 2 upvotes that SEN players are totally going to see and be very pissed off at and they are just going to play worse against FNC.
Your opinion doesn't matter if it is on the website with the most clowns

I.A.R.A

#41
Marshal_D_Teach
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Zekken > Chronicle (Zekken has way better experience and skill on flex)

My eyes are bleeding

#42
Danny
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Fraudnatic vs Sentiluls

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Yessire
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n1cf [#3]

TenZ < Derke
Sacy <<< Leo
Pancada < Boaster
Zekken <<<<< Chronicle
Deph <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Alfajer

Fnatic diffs hard

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#44
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TenZ < Derke
Sacy = Leo
Pancada >>>>>> Boaster
Zekken << Chronicle
Dephh <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Alfajer

#45
benmaimoon
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GiancioZ [#44]

TenZ < Derke
Sacy = Leo
Pancada >>>>>> Boaster
Zekken << Chronicle
Dephh <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Alfajer

w take from spanish bro

#46
Yessire
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Okoretro [#20]

bro he doesnt have a lot of depth

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#47
GiancioZ
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benmaimoon [#45]

w take from spanish bro

ty bro

#48
GiancioZ
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soraol [#35]

Zekken <<<<<<<<<<<<Chronicle

i suggest u to watch a single Chronicle game ;)

#49
Netero
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Tenz owns Derke wtf 🐸

#50
juho
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dw they won't

#51
Adi69LassiSeller
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benmaimoon [#33]

sorry for my stupid opinion bro i just watched tenz stream and actually he is looking good on rankeds. he is definitely way better than derke. i can confidently say that. we have never seen tenz on high stage for a few years but never mind it's all his teams fault. i bet tenz will never choke on high stage matches. if he chokes it's gonna be his teammates fault for sure. again and again im so sorry for defending L player derke. im pretty sure he will choke again against tenz(aka the ranked beast)

You forgot "Aimlabs beast" TenZ

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capital_d_colon [#38]

sentinel actually have a really good coaching staff.
honestly could be better than fnatics

XSET best achievement (5th/6th) is literally what FNC averages on every single LAN, but since they’re FNC people considers it a choke

#53
benmaimoon
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Adi69LassiSeller [#51]

You forgot "Aimlabs beast" TenZ

my bad

#54
brahianv
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putting tenz in the same league as derke is ridiculous.

#55
Domination
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Because SEN lost to TSM🗿 Fnatic would never

#56
DjOOII_213
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Because

#57
Dokka
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Chronicle has way more experience then Zekken, he literally is a masters champion and champs finalist

Also when it comes to versatility chronicle has literally fragged out on every single role in the game, whilst zekken has focused on initiator and duelist

Everything else is valid

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Mortadelo [#52]

XSET best achievement (5th/6th) is literally what FNC averages on every single LAN, but since they’re FNC people considers it a choke

Xset dominated fnatic tho, we ignoring that???

#59
sheahhhh
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cause SEN dropped Shahzam, and they replaced him with a dogshitter who will throw the next few games

#60
asdfgh
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what are these braindead comparisons lmao,sacy is not better than leo,zekken is not better than chronicle
how does zekken have more experience or skill and leo you can argue but he was always insane saying he played good "just in copenhagen" proves u dont know what ur talking about lol

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Mortadelo [#52]

XSET best achievement (5th/6th) is literally what FNC averages on every single LAN, but since they’re FNC people considers it a choke

I like this new sentinels coaching team because it has a variety of team coaches.

From interviews etc I think Drew is pretty innovating and seems to be willing to bring some new ideas. Alot of talk about double duelists comps which I think could be a gamechanger in this type of tournament
Sykko I dont think i need to say too much, hes done great with xset
Kaplan, a bit under the radar. done well at ghost, can add another layer to sentinels.

Fnatic. Boaster + mini and slk are fantastic. Ive heard the likes of fns talk about how hes copied strat and innovation from the fnatic team.
I think an example being on bind, with the use of the viper mollies

Both have great coaching teams, think sentinels just have a bit more depth. (sentinels seemed to finally take the coaching seriously this year lol)

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wafters
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asdfgh [#60]

what are these braindead comparisons lmao,sacy is not better than leo,zekken is not better than chronicle
how does zekken have more experience or skill and leo you can argue but he was always insane saying he played good "just in copenhagen" proves u dont know what ur talking about lol

so true SISTER

#63
Mortadelo
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Pengu12 [#58]

Xset dominated fnatic tho, we ignoring that???

Does that compensate 2 years of being the most consistent team in EMEA? And averaging top 6? They’ve missed 1 LAN, and got eliminated in groups once with 2 subs. They’ve made what would be considered decent runs for any other team in all the other events

Guild also “dominated” OPTC, does that make Barbar better than Chet?

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capital_d_colon [#61]

I like this new sentinels coaching team because it has a variety of team coaches.

From interviews etc I think Drew is pretty innovating and seems to be willing to bring some new ideas. Alot of talk about double duelists comps which I think could be a gamechanger in this type of tournament
Sykko I dont think i need to say too much, hes done great with xset
Kaplan, a bit under the radar. done well at ghost, can add another layer to sentinels.

Fnatic. Boaster + mini and slk are fantastic. Ive heard the likes of fns talk about how hes copied strat and innovation from the fnatic team.
I think an example being on bind, with the use of the viper mollies

Both have great coaching teams, think sentinels just have a bit more depth. (sentinels seemed to finally take the coaching seriously this year lol)

Ik Sen coaching is good, just defending FNC cause people loves to claim they’re just cringe chokers that never achieve anything and it’s just not true

#65
Droogles
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Zekken - Derke
Sacy - Leo
Pancada - Boaster
Tenz - Chronicle
Dephh - Alfajer
If it’s role wise it might look more like this for the comparisons

#66
ConsistentCycles
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yeah only one of these teams lost to tsm

#67
NICcHer
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nutab1e [#8]

tsm beat sen btw

shit ur pants and cope more

Sen could have won but they decided to play some non meta agents on the maps but hey, no excuses if you loose your shit

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Fanatic played in a pre season invitational in Japan and respectively won both matches against t1 teams while Shitnels lost to TSM (2:0) in the tarikxludwig event and why the f*ck would you comper pancada to Boaster? One's an igl and the other is essentially a support
A more accurate role based comparison would be:

(E Fragger/oper)
Tenz>= Derke

(Support/controller)
Pancada >Chronicle

(igl)
Deph<Boaster

(Initater)
Sacy=Leo

(Lurkers/"mainly flex")
Zekken=<Alfejar

#69
frappzlul
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mf just said sen coaches > fnc coaches

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KRATOSmimir21
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NICcHer [#68]

Fanatic played in a pre season invitational in Japan and respectively won both matches against t1 teams while Shitnels lost to TSM (2:0) in the tarikxludwig event and why the f*ck would you comper pancada to Boaster? One's an igl and the other is essentially a support
A more accurate role based comparison would be:

(E Fragger/oper)
Tenz>= Derke

(Support/controller)
Pancada >Chronicle

(igl)
Deph<Boaster

(Initater)
Sacy=Leo

(Lurkers/"mainly flex")
Zekken=<Alfejar

I saw that Boaster was the smoker. At least that's what others were saying on a diff post. So I compared Pancada to Boaster.

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capital_d_colon [#18]

but still this is a whole new sentinel roster. completely new ideas getting used to comms and setups.
they are creating an entirely new system

compared to fnatic who have kept their igl coaching staff + derke + alfajer. they are trying to slot 2 players into the fnatic system.

maybe theyve been scrimming for the same amount of time but i still feel like fnatic have an advantage in that sense

i trust SEN's coaching staff to do well with the team tho

#72
soraol
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GiancioZ [#48]

i suggest u to watch a single Chronicle game ;)

okay bro

#73
hekzy
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Adi69LassiSeller [#29]

Eh? Why not? Tbh in master 1 Iceland TenZ played Reyna better than Jett . His statsspeak for himself

Lmfao NO

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Yessire [#46]

This message was deleted****

in germany we say "bruder"

#75
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NICcHer [#68]

Fanatic played in a pre season invitational in Japan and respectively won both matches against t1 teams while Shitnels lost to TSM (2:0) in the tarikxludwig event and why the f*ck would you comper pancada to Boaster? One's an igl and the other is essentially a support
A more accurate role based comparison would be:

(E Fragger/oper)
Tenz>= Derke

(Support/controller)
Pancada >Chronicle

(igl)
Deph<Boaster

(Initater)
Sacy=Leo

(Lurkers/"mainly flex")
Zekken=<Alfejar

I'm sorry but derke is way better than TenZ

Although tenz has started playing kayo so it'll be fun new comparison

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Dybala21
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Adi69LassiSeller [#29]

Eh? Why not? Tbh in master 1 Iceland TenZ played Reyna better than Jett . His statsspeak for himself

Don’t try to fight this hekzy person. They’re cs frogs

#77
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Dybala21 [#76]

Don’t try to fight this hekzy person. They’re cs frogs

I block hekzy now🤬🤬. CS frog bad 🤬

#78
zfmarvin42
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n1cf [#3]

TenZ < Derke
Sacy <<< Leo
Pancada < Boaster
Zekken <<<<< Chronicle
Deph <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Alfajer

Fnatic diffs hard

have you ever done a sober stream bro

#79
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man said chronicle has less experience than zekken im finishedd

#80
GAGAZ
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tenz zekken depph always panic

#81
generalkenobi343
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bro said Zekken > Chronicle 💀💀

#82
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Roles are wrong:
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Duelist: zekken ≤ Derke
Flex: TenZ ≤ Chronicle
Iniciator: Sacy >>> Leo
Controller: pANcada >>>>>>>> Boaster
Sentinel: Dephh << Alfajer
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Idk... Sometimes I feel like ppl underestimate Sacy as an Iniciator chosing Leo instead of him, but he was the most consistent and impactful Iniciator player last year
Not saying that Leo is a trash player, he's actually really good, but Sacy was a heck better last year

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except boaster rest of fnatic diffs sentinels hard

#84
KRATOSmimir21
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musprt [#79]

man said chronicle has less experience than zekken im finishedd

In the flex role. Which is true. Plus Zekken and Chronicle are both equal fraggers imo

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hekzy [#28]

And what is tenz gonna play? Reyna?

Apparently kayo

#86
Cresp
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kbkdark [#82]

Roles are wrong:
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Duelist: zekken ≤ Derke
Flex: TenZ ≤ Chronicle
Iniciator: Sacy >>> Leo
Controller: pANcada >>>>>>>> Boaster
Sentinel: Dephh << Alfajer
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Idk... Sometimes I feel like ppl underestimate Sacy as an Iniciator chosing Leo instead of him, but he was the most consistent and impactful Iniciator player last year
Not saying that Leo is a trash player, he's actually really good, but Sacy was a heck better last year

People dont understand that both rosters are incredibly stacked. If anything this match gon be a super banger.

#87
kbkdark
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Cresp [#86]

People dont understand that both rosters are incredibly stacked. If anything this match gon be a super banger.

agree 100%

#88
hekzy
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Dybala21 [#76]

Don’t try to fight this hekzy person. They’re cs frogs

What does this have to do with anything that's been mentioned above? Reyna isn't meta (or do you think that's a CSGO opinion (?????????????)). 0iq imbeciles fk outta here

#89
hekzy
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Cresp [#85]

Apparently kayo

Watch him drop 10 bombs then

#90
Dybala21
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hekzy [#88]

What does this have to do with anything that's been mentioned above? Reyna isn't meta (or do you think that's a CSGO opinion (?????????????)). 0iq imbeciles fk outta here

Who says anything about what's your opinion, I just tell the other person to not waste their time on you lol

#91
unknown_trash
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n1cf [#3]

TenZ < Derke
Sacy <<< Leo
Pancada < Boaster
Zekken <<<<< Chronicle
Deph <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Alfajer

Fnatic diffs hard

Tenz=derke
Sacy=>leo (sacy maybe only bit better because of experience)
Pancada>>>>boaster
Zekken=chronicle
Dephh<<<<alfajer

It's going to be a really close match

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Dybala21 [#90]

Who says anything about what's your opinion, I just tell the other person to not waste their time on you lol

You're a hero!

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sheahhhh [#59]

cause SEN dropped Shahzam, and they replaced him with a dogshitter who will throw the next few games

unfortunately sykko's burden

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