https://m.twitch.tv/clip/SaltyVastCoyoteCharlieBitMe-ByJb_22cpkG73EwD
thoughts?
NSG_Observer_2 [#2]true EU has ass aim and cned is a average player in NA
Listen man ik ur takes are usually world class and you're a respected commenter around here with a great reputation...
but this one is just not it man
every region plays the way its needed for them and tenz looks like he forgot the NA teams are all inconsistent af! if NA style would work in korea, eu, they would have done that there too since its easier.
css/csgo looked the same at the beginning when you watched the NA and EU region in direct comparison. Its typical for NA playing fast, improvise and risk a lot while EU trust more in control and safety. there are people in csgo who are 10x better than tenz was in csgo and even they cant dominate EU with the NA style and thats something tenz is ignoring. EU massacred a whole region (NA) with their control style and that means something.
tenz can talk as he wish but he wont see iceland imo!
V0sotros [#7]Korea is basically Vision Strikers and a bunch of teams that would be borderline Tier 2 in NA or EU
also their not there
every single TOP NA team lost to tier 2 or worse teams once and they are so inconsistent that it looks like a region of matchfixers while VS didnt even lose a single match in korea and dont tell me the others are a bunch of tier 2 players. VS play control style and as we see its the best style so far!
PussyJett [#8]every region plays the way its needed for them and tenz looks like he forgot the NA teams are all inconsistent af! if NA style would work in korea, eu, they would have done that there too since its easier.
css/csgo looked the same at the beginning when you watched the NA and EU region in direct comparison. Its typical for NA playing fast, improvise and risk a lot while EU trust more in control and safety. there are people in csgo who are 10x better than tenz was in csgo and even they cant dominate EU with the NA style and thats something tenz is ignoring. EU massacred a whole region (NA) with their control style and that means something.
tenz can talk as he wish but he wont see iceland imo!
i think the exclamation marks pussy jett adds after every post really gives him a certain flare that makes him superior to all!
It's nice to know he doesn't watch EU at all. Means the NA teams are sleeping on EU and will be surprised.
I mean, do you people even watch matches? NA is so much slower I literally fall asleep half the games. Not even close to being as explosive as EU.
My prediction is that NA will be constantly flashed and generally fucked over trying to escape from utility. And the only players who will somewhat get away with are duelists.
hekzy [#11]It's nice to know he doesn't watch EU at all. Means the NA teams are sleeping on EU and will be surprised.
I mean, do you people even watch matches? NA is so much slower I literally fall asleep half the games. Not even close to being as explosive as EU.
My prediction is that NA will be constantly flashed and generally fucked over trying to escape from utility. And the only players who will somewhat get away with are duelists.
Also NA teams are hella unimaginative and you can see that in their stagnant comp selection.
hekzy [#12]Also NA teams are hella unimaginative and you can see that in their stagnant comp selection.
how can u say that na teams are unimaginative if u are sleeping half the games /s
hekzy [#11]It's nice to know he doesn't watch EU at all. Means the NA teams are sleeping on EU and will be surprised.
I mean, do you people even watch matches? NA is so much slower I literally fall asleep half the games. Not even close to being as explosive as EU.
My prediction is that NA will be constantly flashed and generally fucked over trying to escape from utility. And the only players who will somewhat get away with are duelists.
EU is just a rollercoaster of emotions, while NA feels dry idk y
PussyJett [#8]every region plays the way its needed for them and tenz looks like he forgot the NA teams are all inconsistent af! if NA style would work in korea, eu, they would have done that there too since its easier.
css/csgo looked the same at the beginning when you watched the NA and EU region in direct comparison. Its typical for NA playing fast, improvise and risk a lot while EU trust more in control and safety. there are people in csgo who are 10x better than tenz was in csgo and even they cant dominate EU with the NA style and thats something tenz is ignoring. EU massacred a whole region (NA) with their control style and that means something.
tenz can talk as he wish but he wont see iceland imo!
yea man!!! korea is definitely a better region than NA!!! especially when only one team is good!! the rest are borderline T2 NA teams!!!
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I believe that the NA scenario is leveled down and they will suffer a lot in Iceland because they don't study teams from other regions, the whole world knows how Sentinels plays, but from what TenZ said in the clip it shows that he doesn't give a damn idea of how the EU scenario, which is the biggest of all, works, so I doubt he has seen any match from KR, BR, LATAM, Turkey, CIS.. Sentinels will be stompped in Iceland because they are arrogant.
hekzy [#11]It's nice to know he doesn't watch EU at all. Means the NA teams are sleeping on EU and will be surprised.
I mean, do you people even watch matches? NA is so much slower I literally fall asleep half the games. Not even close to being as explosive as EU.
My prediction is that NA will be constantly flashed and generally fucked over trying to escape from utility. And the only players who will somewhat get away with are duelists.
I think NA will be surprised in Iceland just because they have some very arrogant players, when they find players like CNED and Sacy, or Mwzera and take a 13-0 stomp mechanically, they will get a reality check. I have the same impression as you when I watch the NA games, this weekend I decided to watch 100T vs Envy and I thought it was a horrible game mechanically, it seems that the players are playing Counter Strike inside Valorant and use the utilities very badly compared to EU, KR, and BR, nothing surprises me in the NA style of play, they are not the best region tactically or mechanically, many talk about TenZ and Asuna but for me they are just good players, players that really catch my attention are Sick and Dapr.
PussyJett [#9]every single TOP NA team lost to tier 2 or worse teams once and they are so inconsistent that it looks like a region of matchfixers while VS didnt even lose a single match in korea and dont tell me the others are a bunch of tier 2 players. VS play control style and as we see its the best style so far!
inconsistency, choking and na are old friends my dude
PussyJett [#9]every single TOP NA team lost to tier 2 or worse teams once and they are so inconsistent that it looks like a region of matchfixers while VS didnt even lose a single match in korea and dont tell me the others are a bunch of tier 2 players. VS play control style and as we see its the best style so far!
the timing thoo
rohooster [#3]Listen man ik ur takes are usually world class and you're a respected commenter around here with a great reputation...
but this one is just not it man
1IQ take
Seldruddd [#4]I mean he has some good points we'll see though. I can see some teams getting absolutely smashed by NA's speed
NA’s speed is nothing compared to BR’s, NA is the worst of all styles. We have neither the stacked teams, the absurd speed, the great utility, or the insane set plays. BR takes Iceland because no one is prepared for their speed, after that maybe we see NA improve enough to beat NA and BR.
Rogue_Angel [#13]how can u say that na teams are unimaginative if u are sleeping half the games /s
"you can see that in their stagnant comp selection." i only have to watch the first 70 seconds.
Noyn [#17]I think NA will be surprised in Iceland just because they have some very arrogant players, when they find players like CNED and Sacy, or Mwzera and take a 13-0 stomp mechanically, they will get a reality check. I have the same impression as you when I watch the NA games, this weekend I decided to watch 100T vs Envy and I thought it was a horrible game mechanically, it seems that the players are playing Counter Strike inside Valorant and use the utilities very badly compared to EU, KR, and BR, nothing surprises me in the NA style of play, they are not the best region tactically or mechanically, many talk about TenZ and Asuna but for me they are just good players, players that really catch my attention are Sick and Dapr.
That was a very hot take, my friend. Absolutely +1 on the Sick part, so underrated. NA watchers seem to enjoy flashy plays over consistent quality. They would prefer TenZ over sick and babybay over victor etc.
hekzy [#25]"you can see that in their stagnant comp selection." i only have to watch the first 70 seconds.
just joking im on ur side chill
From what I see, NA teams have not been watching Valorant across the world, as they have no idea of what the regions play like.
In Iceland, right now, I think the strongest regions will be EU-BR-KR, since the game is new. But from the long term, EU will dominate with tactics. KR also will be very strong, but for now, aside from VS, I don't see their teams being strong.
That being said, I don't think NA will dominate whatsoever (but I could be wrong tho).
Using FaZe as an example is a pretty bad idea. I mean he saw for himself what happens when FaZe faces off against a team with equal/greater talent (Sentinels). They fall out of rhyme, get scared, have nothing to fall back on and get embarrassed. They showed no signs of making any adjustments aside from slowing down and looking lost.
I don't see this changing at all on LAN against greater international talent. No longer pubstomping mediocre NA teams online while vibing at home. Despite what the game looks like, this game isn't Overwatch or Call of Duty - gotta use the brain.
hekzy [#26]That was a very hot take, my friend. Absolutely +1 on the Sick part, so underrated. NA watchers seem to enjoy flashy plays over consistent quality. They would prefer TenZ over sick and babybay over victor etc.
absolutely, people hype TenZ, Asuna, Cned, Scream but they forget players like SicK, Victor, Yacine and Nukkye who always bring consistent value
Luizpk22 [#28]From what I see, NA teams have not been watching Valorant across the world, as they have no idea of what the regions play like.
In Iceland, right now, I think the strongest regions will be EU-BR-KR, since the game is new. But from the long term, EU will dominate with tactics. KR also will be very strong, but for now, aside from VS, I don't see their teams being strong.
That being said, I don't think NA will dominate whatsoever (but I could be wrong tho).
I mean this is a duelist talking the people you should be listening to talk is the igls like FNS, Steel and Shaz and they haven't said shit so this is all talk
sm0ke3 [#31]absolutely, people hype TenZ, Asuna, Cned, Scream but they forget players like SicK, Victor, Yacine and Nukkye who always bring consistent value
All of those players are insanely consistent but you are on the right track. Some of them peak higher than the others and I would consider Victor one of the less consistent members of that group. Perhaps TSM's or some of NRG's players are better examples at least in NA since they are great players with inconsistent to bad results when they should be competitive in the Tier 1 space.
Helix_Exton [#24]NA’s speed is nothing compared to BR’s, NA is the worst of all styles. We have neither the stacked teams, the absurd speed, the great utility, or the insane set plays. BR takes Iceland because no one is prepared for their speed, after that maybe we see NA improve enough to beat NA and BR.
Agree
rohooster [#3]Listen man ik ur takes are usually world class and you're a respected commenter around here with a great reputation...
but this one is just not it man
lischen 'ere bruv, i nkaow yar chtakes are uschually w'rld class and cha're a reshpected commenta round ere' with a splendid and schtupendus repertoire......
but this specific example t'isnt it fam
hekzy [#37]Good prediction. I hope he makes a watch party when he watches the matches from home.
LMAOOOOOOOOOOO +1
Helix_Exton [#24]NA’s speed is nothing compared to BR’s, NA is the worst of all styles. We have neither the stacked teams, the absurd speed, the great utility, or the insane set plays. BR takes Iceland because no one is prepared for their speed, after that maybe we see NA improve enough to beat NA and BR.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Noyn [#17]I think NA will be surprised in Iceland just because they have some very arrogant players, when they find players like CNED and Sacy, or Mwzera and take a 13-0 stomp mechanically, they will get a reality check. I have the same impression as you when I watch the NA games, this weekend I decided to watch 100T vs Envy and I thought it was a horrible game mechanically, it seems that the players are playing Counter Strike inside Valorant and use the utilities very badly compared to EU, KR, and BR, nothing surprises me in the NA style of play, they are not the best region tactically or mechanically, many talk about TenZ and Asuna but for me they are just good players, players that really catch my attention are Sick and Dapr.
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Noyn [#16]I believe that the NA scenario is leveled down and they will suffer a lot in Iceland because they don't study teams from other regions, the whole world knows how Sentinels plays, but from what TenZ said in the clip it shows that he doesn't give a damn idea of how the EU scenario, which is the biggest of all, works, so I doubt he has seen any match from KR, BR, LATAM, Turkey, CIS.. Sentinels will be stompped in Iceland because they are arrogant.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
NSG_Observer_2 [#2]true EU has ass aim and cned is a average player in NA
You're delusional af lmfao
hekzy [#37]Good prediction. I hope he makes a watch party when he watches the matches from home.
damn he's gonna watch himself destroy Derke and win 3-0? cant wait for that stream!
Luizpk22 [#28]From what I see, NA teams have not been watching Valorant across the world, as they have no idea of what the regions play like.
In Iceland, right now, I think the strongest regions will be EU-BR-KR, since the game is new. But from the long term, EU will dominate with tactics. KR also will be very strong, but for now, aside from VS, I don't see their teams being strong.
That being said, I don't think NA will dominate whatsoever (but I could be wrong tho).
BR LMAOOOOOO
Helix_Exton [#24]NA’s speed is nothing compared to BR’s, NA is the worst of all styles. We have neither the stacked teams, the absurd speed, the great utility, or the insane set plays. BR takes Iceland because no one is prepared for their speed, after that maybe we see NA improve enough to beat NA and BR.
BR TAKE
V0sotros [#7]Korea is basically Vision Strikers and a bunch of teams that would be borderline Tier 2 in NA or EU
also their not there
lol...
NSG_Observer_2 [#2]true EU has ass aim and cned is a average player in NA
even tenz himself said EU has better aim than NA in general. then he proceed to say NA has better decision making. but after seeing NA teams performance in the Champions, i only see that in C9.
bandwagondestroyer [#53]learn to play more that one agent dumbass
wym? he can play Jett AND Reyna sarcasm
but fr though he really needs to diversify his agent pool. at least among duelists. he needs a good month or 2 in the hyperbolic time chamber with Sinatraa.