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Harbor will be very good on Lotus

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#1
spookmeister

I genuinely think harbor will be good on Lotus. The wall works great for the shape of the sites, the bubble has plenty of places it works well in, the pushwall is just the right size for taking and retaking sites, and his ult covers all 3 sites completely
he will probably be a secondary controller but I think he will be played often

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nutab1e
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all riot has to do is remove wall slow for teammates and he's meta

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kbkdark
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nutab1e [#2]

all riot has to do is remove wall slow for teammates and he's meta

they need to buff his wall slow like 0.5s more

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I_HATE_MCE
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They need to stop making characters with giant ass abilities that take up half your screen, like harbor wall and neon wall. It’s not even that good just annoying and makes valorant look like a cartoon child’s game

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I_HATE_MCE [#4]

They need to stop making characters with giant ass abilities that take up half your screen, like harbor wall and neon wall. It’s not even that good just annoying and makes valorant look like a cartoon child’s game

The point is that they take up your screen bro
They’re supposed to block vision
This is a silver cs purist player kinda take

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I_HATE_MCE [#4]

They need to stop making characters with giant ass abilities that take up half your screen, like harbor wall and neon wall. It’s not even that good just annoying and makes valorant look like a cartoon child’s game

they should just delete Neon

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spookmeister
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Gutssz [#6]

they should just delete Neon

Shut up

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nutab1e
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I_HATE_MCE [#4]

They need to stop making characters with giant ass abilities that take up half your screen, like harbor wall and neon wall. It’s not even that good just annoying and makes valorant look like a cartoon child’s game

valulrante childe gaem?

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I_HATE_MCE
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spookmeister [#5]

The point is that they take up your screen bro
They’re supposed to block vision
This is a silver cs purist player kinda take

I’m not even a cs player, it’s just ugly af

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nutab1e
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spookmeister [#7]

Shut up

Well, chill out a bit bro

#11
Gutssz
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spookmeister [#7]

Shut up

brainless agent
Isn't it ridiculous that this agent is still ridiculously strong while Chamber is nerfed?

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spookmeister
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I_HATE_MCE [#9]

I’m not even a cs player, it’s just ugly af

This is actually such a bad take
It’s supposed to block vision of course it’s big on your screen
it’s not even ugly the textures on the walls are quite nice

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B1itz
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Gutssz [#11]

brainless agent
Isn't it ridiculous that this agent is still ridiculously strong while Chamber is nerfed?

Ridiculously strong? Where the fuck are you living. She is such an off meta pick she is perfectly balanced. Raze and Jett are both much better. She is only ever picked when you have a very specific team comp to back it

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Gutssz
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B1itz [#13]

Ridiculously strong? Where the fuck are you living. She is such an off meta pick she is perfectly balanced. Raze and Jett are both much better. She is only ever picked when you have a very specific team comp to back it

meta who cares
this stupid agent is so annoying

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spookmeister
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Gutssz [#11]

brainless agent
Isn't it ridiculous that this agent is still ridiculously strong while Chamber is nerfed?

Not even brainless lol
If you try to no brain run in you die
You have to have decent positioning and utility usage to live longer than 15 seconds as neon
She isn’t even ridiculously strong, she is only successful when paired with a very specific team comp that can help her open up a site

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spookmeister
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kbkdark [#3]

they need to buff his wall slow like 0.5s more

And smoke should stay up even after the shield breaks

#17
Mjtchell
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Harbor is 100% underrated. The slow the wall gives is super oppressive and could be used in place of sage in some cases

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spookmeister
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Mjtchell [#17]

Harbor is 100% underrated. The slow the wall gives is super oppressive and could be used in place of sage in some cases

Nah harbor is very bad on most maps . He could be good on split and lotus but he’s just not good on the other maps in the pool

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spookmeister [#18]

Nah harbor is very bad on most maps . He could be good on split and lotus but he’s just not good on the other maps in the pool

People thought Yoru and Neon were bad in pro play until the right teams utilized the characters
In ranked he might be bad sure, but we won't know until teams start to use him

#20
Qwertyy
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ok

#21
Wronghand
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Hot take: Harbor wall should insta kill if you walk through it cause I gaurentee it'll make your socks wet, and that's worse than death. Have mercy riot.

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spookmeister
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Mjtchell [#19]

People thought Yoru and Neon were bad in pro play until the right teams utilized the characters
In ranked he might be bad sure, but we won't know until teams start to use him

Haven, pearl, icebox way too big for his wall to be good
Maybe viable ascent split lotus but the rest are too wide

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nutab1e
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Wronghand [#21]

Hot take: Harbor wall should insta kill if you walk through it cause I gaurentee it'll make your socks wet, and that's worse than death. Have mercy riot.

viper doesn't wear socks 🤤

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spookmeister
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Wronghand [#21]

Hot take: Harbor wall should insta kill if you walk through it cause I gaurentee it'll make your socks wet, and that's worse than death. Have mercy riot.

Real

#25
h0sS
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Gutssz [#14]

meta who cares
this stupid agent is so annoying

Bad aimer detected.

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Wronghand [#21]

Hot take: Harbor wall should insta kill if you walk through it cause I gaurentee it'll make your socks wet, and that's worse than death. Have mercy riot.

The best take i've ever seen on VLR.

Wet socks create psychopaths. Source: Me

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kbkdark
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spookmeister [#16]

And smoke should stay up even after the shield breaks

fr

#28
Subreezy
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might be a hot take but i think harbor is in a similar place as yoru was during the update that introduced his clone, meaning he's not meta necessarily, but he's a really good pick for comp. I was able to climb with yoru pretty easily even when he was an F tier agent and that's because no one knew how to play against him. same goes for harbor, i believe the element of surprise along with taking the time to learn his kit will help people climb.

as for professional play i believe he will be picked over viper as a secondary smoke if that's the team comp (like how bind meta was two controllers), but not as a primary smoke.

#29
Newbean
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spookmeister [#16]

And smoke should stay up even after the shield breaks

Too op

#30
OnlyOneStar
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I think people in ranked play individually .....there is no way people try to coordinate

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Kk0bra1101
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I_HATE_MCE [#9]

I’m not even a cs player, it’s just ugly af

It's a piece of vison blocking utility broski what do u want??, 7 dome smokes on 1 controller?.
This is valorant, all players don't have all the abilities in this game

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