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Best Roster going to Kick-Off

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sheahhhh

Going into San Paulo
People say Fnatic but Boaster is mechanically weak, but IMO, as soon as I saw the Leviatan roster, that shit is a god squad, they have 6 top tier players, I don't see a single weakness i mean u have such a roster where keznit is ur 6th. Im not even a latam fan but I think if the coaching is right, they will easily come top 3 San Paulo possibly win it

lmk what u think, I feel Levi is the only roster without a mechanical weakness

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I agree with u,but be careful with drx,paper Rex,Navi,liquid,fnatic,100t,c9....
Lev has potential to be top 4 NA if they play really well tbh

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anyone but GE

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Shyy is the weakest part of the roster.
i dont think its a global super squad but its the strongest latam team possible.
kingg would be the only superstar player on that rost though

lev are still strong though. top 3 is 100% achievable

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angelmrm [#2]

I agree with u,but be careful with drx,paper Rex,Navi,liquid,fnatic,100t,c9....
Lev has potential to be top 4 NA if they play really well tbh

PRX: benkai is mechanically weaker than others
Navi: ange1 enough said
Liquid: Soulcas/jampii goes from god mode to trash mode, inconsistent
Fnatic: boaster mechanical
100t: Asuna inconsistent, and usually stellar mechanically weak thought looked good at recent
c9: vanity is a little behind others mechanically but otherwise pretty close to what I said about Levi
DRX: only one you could argue tbh but we have seen how they play so far and feel they might get complacent

btw this is also based on individual performance and I have no idea how well they will play together, but I think they have the most potential

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For me DRX Navi and Lev are the most solid teams to Kick-off, top 5 at least

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sheahhhh
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capital_d_colon [#4]

Shyy is the weakest part of the roster.
i dont think its a global super squad but its the strongest latam team possible.
kingg would be the only superstar player on that rost though

lev are still strong though. top 3 is 100% achievable

i agree but he is the youngest and its not a huge difference in mechanical skill so i think he will be able to catch up, and plus keznit could just sub in anyway 💀
also taco, keznit, mazino, and even nzr are gods in their role with the first 3 being gods globally

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capital_d_colon [#4]

Shyy is the weakest part of the roster.
i dont think its a global super squad but its the strongest latam team possible.
kingg would be the only superstar player on that rost though

lev are still strong though. top 3 is 100% achievable

Bro forgot tacolilla💀💀(kingg is the only superstar)

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sheahhhh [#5]

PRX: benkai is mechanically weaker than others
Navi: ange1 enough said
Liquid: Soulcas/jampii goes from god mode to trash mode, inconsistent
Fnatic: boaster mechanical
100t: Asuna inconsistent, and usually stellar mechanically weak thought looked good at recent
c9: vanity is a little behind others mechanically but otherwise pretty close to what I said about Levi
DRX: only one you could argue tbh but we have seen how they play so far and feel they might get complacent

btw this is also based on individual performance and I have no idea how well they will play together, but I think they have the most potential

ok so how did optic achieve so much with literally the worst aimer in valorant. its a team game not 5x 1v1

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angelmrm [#8]

Bro forgot tacolilla💀💀(kingg is the only superstar)

maybe.
i was disappointed with his champs performance. but that was on chamber so...
maybe hes better on kj

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sheahhhh
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acels2 [#9]

ok so how did optic achieve so much with literally the worst aimer in valorant. its a team game not 5x 1v1

because they had yay the best player in the world at the time and marved prob the best controller at the time
if they had an igl like vanity and if he clicked with the team, they probably could've won every event

also if u knew how to read, u would see the disclaimer at the bottom which says I don't know how they will play together but individual ability plays a major part in a teams success so I was ranking what I know

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acels2 [#9]

ok so how did optic achieve so much with literally the worst aimer in valorant. its a team game not 5x 1v1

worst aimer but has the biggest brain of the entire scene

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sheahhhh [#11]

because they had yay the best player in the world at the time and marved prob the best controller at the time
if they had an igl like vanity and if he clicked with the team, they probably could've won every event

also if u knew how to read, u would see the disclaimer at the bottom which says I don't know how they will play together but individual ability plays a major part in a teams success so I was ranking what I know

which is a bad way of ranking teams

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capital_d_colon [#10]

maybe.
i was disappointed with his champs performance. but that was on chamber so...
maybe hes better on kj

he is playing jett/raze i think

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i don't think they're a complete favourite, that has to be navi, but they are for sure SUPER underrated and probably around top 4 for what we know/can assume right now

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jade_ [#15]

i don't think they're a complete favourite, that has to be navi, but they are for sure SUPER underrated and probably around top 4 for what we know/can assume right now

im not sure, navi, while i get it was fresh off roster changes, didn't do very well against Parla esports and IMO, cned is a downgrade, ardiis was their best player

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acels2 [#13]

which is a bad way of ranking teams

yeah let me just put together 5 diamonds with good synergy and one of the diamonds is the best igl in the world and see what happens

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Almost every IGL is mechanically weak. So that typically balances out between the teams, and it really comes down to the 4v4 comparison.

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sheahhhh
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benjiapollo [#18]

Almost every IGL is mechanically weak. So that typically balances out between the teams, and it really comes down to the 4v4 comparison.

have you met Kingg

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sheahhhh [#5]

PRX: benkai is mechanically weaker than others
Navi: ange1 enough said
Liquid: Soulcas/jampii goes from god mode to trash mode, inconsistent
Fnatic: boaster mechanical
100t: Asuna inconsistent, and usually stellar mechanically weak thought looked good at recent
c9: vanity is a little behind others mechanically but otherwise pretty close to what I said about Levi
DRX: only one you could argue tbh but we have seen how they play so far and feel they might get complacent

btw this is also based on individual performance and I have no idea how well they will play together, but I think they have the most potential

as a prx fan, i have to agree sadly

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I feel like historic results have shown that a mechanically inadequate but strategically sound igl is more valuable (if not necessary) than a fifth rifler.

Ange1, redgar, FNS, boaster etc. have shown that this type of team can succeed

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queueK [#21]

I feel like historic results have shown that a mechanically inadequate but strategically sound igl is more valuable (if not necessary) than a fifth rifler.

Ange1, redgar, FNS, boaster etc. have shown that this type of team can succeed

thats because we have never seen a combination of both, a god igl mechanically and smart with 4 other god mechanical players, IMO we could see that from LEVI if it clicks

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sheahhhh [#22]

thats because we have never seen a combination of both, a god igl mechanically and smart with 4 other god mechanical players, IMO we could see that from LEVI if it clicks

2021 Sen and 2022 Loud are examples of that imo. I think they're two different types of teams that both can work.

IMO the best team in this tournament will be decided in large part by the chemistry between the players. There's so many good rosters on paper but most are newly formed without even an existing core.

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queueK [#23]

2021 Sen and 2022 Loud are examples of that imo. I think they're two different types of teams that both can work.

IMO the best team in this tournament will be decided in large part by the chemistry between the players. There's so many good rosters on paper but most are newly formed without even an existing core.

im saying LEVI IS the best on paper
2021 SEN is not an example of that as Zombs was weaker compared to other controllers
2022 Loud is pretty much there but they broke the roster LMAO, also there could be an igl better than pancada

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sheahhhh [#16]

im not sure, navi, while i get it was fresh off roster changes, didn't do very well against Parla esports and IMO, cned is a downgrade, ardiis was their best player

suygetsu and shao both better

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sheahhhh
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3cmtotal [#25]

suygetsu and shao both better

brother is coping

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sheahhhh [#16]

im not sure, navi, while i get it was fresh off roster changes, didn't do very well against Parla esports and IMO, cned is a downgrade, ardiis was their best player

sure but with new patch, jett will be played more and we all know cned thrives on jett

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sheahhhh
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Brimstan [#27]

sure but with new patch, jett will be played more and we all know cned thrives on jett

i agree but regardless, ange1 is not Kingg mechanically not even close

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sheahhhh [#24]

im saying LEVI IS the best on paper
2021 SEN is not an example of that as Zombs was weaker compared to other controllers
2022 Loud is pretty much there but they broke the roster LMAO, also there could be an igl better than pancada

The point I'm trying to make is that having an igl with bad mechanics isn't a good enough reason by itself to make a team worse than another with a mechanically adequate igl. (Obv, if all factors were the same this would be true, but that's not the case here)

While Lev have 5 mechanically sound playesr, I think nzr, mazino, and shyy are slightly worse than players like leo, suygetsu, mako, etc. And I think the value igls like fns, vanity etc. bring makes up for their mechanical problems. So, I don't think Lev is necessarily the best roster on paper.

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queueK [#29]

The point I'm trying to make is that having an igl with bad mechanics isn't a good enough reason by itself to make a team worse than another with a mechanically adequate igl. (Obv, if all factors were the same this would be true, but that's not the case here)

While Lev have 5 mechanically sound playesr, I think nzr, mazino, and shyy are slightly worse than players like leo, suygetsu, mako, etc. And I think the value igls like fns, vanity etc. bring makes up for their mechanical problems. So, I don't think Lev is necessarily the best roster on paper.

  1. yes, a team with five mechanically good players including the igl will be better than one with a worse igl mechanically (this can only be argued against if the coach/team synergy is off which I cant know)
  2. I disagree, nzr and mazino are monsters in their role and shyy is very young and we have seen spurts of very good performances from him
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KRÜ Wins

#32
sheahhhh
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eduw [#31]

KRÜ Wins

kru's roster is atrocious now, they had some of the worst roster changes

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sheahhhh [#32]

kru's roster is atrocious now, they had some of the worst roster changes

gigaxand and melser>>>>>>>

#34
SENneedstacpausetowin
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Stop listening when you said boaster weak

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fapcity
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LEV world class team will destroy eu soon

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sheahhhh [#16]

im not sure, navi, while i get it was fresh off roster changes, didn't do very well against Parla esports and IMO, cned is a downgrade, ardiis was their best player

Ardiis was their best player in champions not whole year but him and angel are the main reason why they lost to DRX the 2nd time , so many mistakes towards the end of icebox and haven .

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benjiapollo [#18]

Almost every IGL is mechanically weak. So that typically balances out between the teams, and it really comes down to the 4v4 comparison.

stax

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benjiapollo [#18]

Almost every IGL is mechanically weak. So that typically balances out between the teams, and it really comes down to the 4v4 comparison.

Ange1 better wdym , he dies first and guides his 4 horsemen , what a Gigachad

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