Why are people talking about cryingO as if he has accomplished half of what ardiis has?
ardiis is No.2 chamber/jett op in NA rn
cryo is after dicey and tex
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yaiima0 [#2]Ardis hasn’t even played a match in NA yet 💀
So? Cryo hasn't played a match in Americas league either. Past NA achievements don't mean anything. Ardiis has been more succesful Chamber on international tournaments.
patuj [#6]So? Cryo hasn't played a match in Americas league either. Past NA achievements don't mean anything. Ardiis has been more succesful Chamber on international tournaments.
If only cryo went to the international tournaments smh
FNEGGS [#14]zekken carried xset thats why hes on sen and cryo was second option for 100t
Don't get me wrong Zekken was and still is good, but the amount of conistency and fragging cryo brought to the team and his role was way more insane than anything ardiis has done for FPX
Mjtchell [#16]Don't get me wrong Zekken was and still is good, but the amount of conistency and fragging cryo brought to the team and his role was way more insane than anything ardiis has done for FPX
cryo had to constantly be set up when ever he played chamber. his team had to play around him so much. zekken on the other hand was literally playing duelist/initiator creating space and fragging. He provided more way more individual value
also having angles cleared for you with fade prowler and hard anchoring with a OP and tp isn't intense
fourlvalorant [#18]bro thinks cryo is worse than dicey and tex
dont get me wrong dicey and tex are good
but theres a reason they got cryo
yes because they couldn't get yay
Mjtchell [#16]Don't get me wrong Zekken was and still is good, but the amount of conistency and fragging cryo brought to the team and his role was way more insane than anything ardiis has done for FPX
cryo is like a budget dev1ce,hes just set up good&knows how to position and is consistent enough to hit his shots,without zekken they would have done nothing in istanbul
asdfgh [#22]cryo is like a budget dev1ce,hes just set up good&knows how to position and is consistent enough to hit his shots,without zekken they would have done nothing in istanbul
are we remembering the same event?
https://www.vlr.gg/130681/xset-vs-fnatic-valorant-champions-2022-ubqf
the only game zekken carried was vs xerxia. and come on they couldve had shroud and they still wouldve won
I_HATE_MCE [#7]Fartiis could never reach cryo’s level
cryo's biggest achievement is losing to ardiis 😭😭
capital_d_colon [#24]are we remembering the same event?
https://www.vlr.gg/130681/xset-vs-fnatic-valorant-champions-2022-ubqfthe only game zekken carried was vs xerxia. and come on they couldve had shroud and they still wouldve won
are we remembering the actual games,the amount of entries,multi kills and clutches he had was absolutely carrying them and their momentum,the only reason his kd is worse is because he played agressive af the whole event while cryo abused the shit out of chamber op setups
capital_d_colon [#24]are we remembering the same event?
https://www.vlr.gg/130681/xset-vs-fnatic-valorant-champions-2022-ubqfthe only game zekken carried was vs xerxia. and come on they couldve had shroud and they still wouldve won
show us asuna stats from champions please and tell me if you think he is a upgrade for zekken
asdfgh [#28]are we remembering the actual games,the amount of entries,multi kills and clutches he had was absolutely carrying them and their momentum,the only reason his kd is worse is because he played agressive af the whole event while cryo abused the shit out of chamber op setups
you do realise vlr stores that shit.
in that fnatic game dephh has more multi kills in every factor.
clutchness?. you are clutching at straws.
xset did well because they had a strong structured core of bcj/dephh/ayrin. good setups .
without zekken they would have done nothing in istanbul
none of this bs
FNEGGS [#31]show us asuna stats from champions please and tell me if you think he is a upgrade for zekken
now you are putting words in my mouth.
where have i ever compared zekken and asuna
FNEGGS [#20]yes because they couldn't get yay
every team wanted yay
100T prefered cryo over him tho
capital_d_colon [#32]you do realise vlr stores that shit.
in that fnatic game dephh has more multi kills in every factor.
clutchness?. you are clutching at straws.xset did well because they had a strong structured core of bcj/dephh/ayrin. good setups .
without zekken they would have done nothing in istanbul
none of this bs
im talking about the tournament not one game and overall impact,pls go watch the games before arguing about this
GooberBoy [#37]On awping specifically how exactly is Ardiis better? Eyetest and statistics both favor Cryo. Ardiis is more flexible and his team had more success but ardiis got suygetsu and shao while cryo got ayrin and bcj
that is stats for all of vct including domestic quals
this is what you probably wanted to show
https://www.vlr.gg/stats/?event_group_id=all&event_id=1015&series_id=all®ion=all&country=all&min_rounds=206&min_rating=&agent=chamber&map_id=all×pan=all
stats for champions 2022
FNEGGS [#38]that is stats for all of vct including domestic quals
this is what you probably wanted to showhttps://www.vlr.gg/stats/?event_group_id=all&event_id=1015&series_id=all®ion=all&country=all&min_rounds=206&min_rating=&agent=chamber&map_id=all×pan=all
stats for champions 2022
I wanted to also include Masters since they both played in two LANs so I'd rather just set it to 1900 or higher(just elite teams) and show the multiple events together.
GooberBoy [#39]I wanted to also include Masters since they both played in two LANs so I'd rather just set it to 1900 or higher(just elite teams) and show the multiple events together.
I wouldn't include masters since sample size is too small for cryo. He has 3rd highest ACS and highest KD because he played 2 matches only.
FNEGGS [#40]I wouldn't include masters since sample size is too small for cryo. He has 3rd highest ACS and highest KD because he played 2 matches only.
that doesn't make any sense, he's not only including masters, his sample size is larger than yours.
Revlo [#41]that doesn't make any sense, he's not only including masters, his sample size is larger than yours.
im talking about sample size of games at masters copenhagen
cryo played 119 games and ardiis played 554
is that a fair comparison?
If you want to go ahead and get the weighted average of cryos performance at champs and masters Copenhagen go ahead
asdfgh [#35]im talking about the tournament not one game and overall impact,pls go watch the games before arguing about this
ive never seen someone more deluded in my entire life. if youre actually trying to argue that zekken was better than cryo youre fucked in the head.
FNEGGS [#43]im talking about sample size of games at masters copenhagen
cryo played 119 games and ardiis played 554
is that a fair comparison?
If you want to go ahead and get the weighted average of cryos performance at champs and masters Copenhagen go ahead
but he isnt only including copenhagen, ur actually braindead kekw
acquracy [#34]every team wanted yay
100T prefered cryo over him tho
reason why 100T is the smarter team. Cryo is a young gun and can be more independent fragger, even with duelists. C9 in for a lot of trouble.
babysasuke [#3]ardiis was a nonfactor on flukepx + cryo yay tenz dicey own him
meow for me baby girl
Revlo [#45]but he isnt only including copenhagen, ur actually braindead kekw
do you even understand the thread you responded too?
yaiima0 [#2]Ardis hasn’t even played a match in NA yet 💀
Actually, he played ranked with s0mantha 🤓
weakest_marved_enjoyer [#44]ive never seen someone more deluded in my entire life. if youre actually trying to argue that zekken was better than cryo youre fucked in the head.
ok?
FNEGGS [#48]do you even understand the thread you responded too?
This guy is trying to hard to be based by just disagreeing with the common opinions of everyone else
how SAD
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