CSGO TWITCH VIEWERSHIP

Some people here like that Hekzy dude keeps saying that Valorat only have more viewers than CS because of Shroud watch parties, as if CS didn't have anyone doing the same thing. Gaules is bigger than CS itself, but his watchparties inflates the number of CS viewers even more than shroud's.

https://imgur.com/EzM8cuc

In this image from today you can see that Gaules alone is responsible for almost half of the viewers of the entire tournament, to make it even worse, this is an international tournament, one of the biggest of the year with a BR team vs an EU team, and in the end CS has only 315k viewers. So basically what I'm trying to say is that globaly Valorant viewership already surpassed CSGO and it will become even more evident when Masters Iceland happen, the first Valorant international tournament.

All of the CSGO diehard fans excuses are over. "Shroud watchparties", "Higher tournament viewerships", and etc

Its gotten this way with most esports atleast on twitch (the only one im not personally sure on is LoL but its the same in dota and ow) Its the future of esports just riot managed to monitise their one within valorant

Right?!
Just compare with NiP x Gambit you will see it
Watch Parties is a good thing
If Riot did that in Brazil and Turkey, the number of viewers would be even greater.

fontea [#2]

Its gotten this way with most esports atleast on twitch (the only one im not personally sure on is LoL but its the same in dota and ow) Its the future of esports just riot managed to monitise their one within valorant

Yep, but the CS tournament organizers also monetize, as they sell the rights to transmit to gaules for a considerable amount of money.

heisback [#4]

Yep, but the CS tournament organizers also monetize, as they sell the rights to transmit to gaules for a considerable amount of money.

On that note the biggest tournaments it may not be the case like TI is always bigger then Gorgc or bulldog in dota may be the same in valorant

Still half and not 75%. Also, CS was big before Gaules even had his first stream. Are you gonna tell me that 1.3m katowice viewers were 50% from gaules (who didnt stream it)?

Some people here are so insecure. Do you think that loving Valorant means hating CSGO? You can like both, so god damn cringe.

hekzy [#6]

Still half and not 75%. Also, CS was big before Gaules even had his first stream. Are you gonna tell me that 1.3m katowice viewers were 50% from gaules (who didnt stream it)?

Some people here are so insecure. Do you think that loving Valorant means hating CSGO? You can like both, so god damn cringe.

Also, we all know you are supernova's alt. Good job replying to your own posts, you loser.

fontea [#5]

On that note the biggest tournaments it may not be the case like TI is always bigger then Gorgc or bulldog in dota may be the same in valorant

Agreed. With Champions right? Dota's TI got more than 5 million concurrent viewers if I'm not wrong.

hekzy [#6]

Still half and not 75%. Also, CS was big before Gaules even had his first stream. Are you gonna tell me that 1.3m katowice viewers were 50% from gaules (who didnt stream it)?

Some people here are so insecure. Do you think that loving Valorant means hating CSGO? You can like both, so god damn cringe.

No, I don't. For the record, I'm watching CSGO right now, the thing is that you are a biased liar that distorts numbers in favor of CSGO all the time.

STOP COMPARING TO CSGO OLDER NUMBERS, CS tournaments popularity dropped a lot from that time till today, wake up, compare with the numbers we had this or last year, then you may have a point.

hekzy [#7]

Also, we all know you are supernova's alt. Good job replying to your own posts, you loser.

I'm not, why the hell would I name myself "heisback", if supernova never left this forum. Retard.

heisback [#10]

I'm not, why the hell would I name myself "heisback", if supernova never left this forum. Retard.

You've been banned for several days multiple times for acting like a child. You always argue the same way, you present yourself the same way and you even argue with ME specifically as if we past even though I've only spoken to "heisback" once.

Deluded kid, get a life.

hekzy [#6]

Still half and not 75%. Also, CS was big before Gaules even had his first stream. Are you gonna tell me that 1.3m katowice viewers were 50% from gaules (who didnt stream it)?

Some people here are so insecure. Do you think that loving Valorant means hating CSGO? You can like both, so god damn cringe.

And what was the 75% thing all about? Are you saying that Shroud represents 75% of world vierwship you braindead idiot? Shround has a max of 80 thousand concurrent vierwers while the game of Valorant has more than 300k, meanwhile Gaules has 150k while CS also has 300k, so Gaules is half of CS while Shroud is a little more than 25% you dumb imbecile.

hekzy [#7]

Also, we all know you are supernova's alt. Good job replying to your own posts, you loser.

Hope u don't have wet dreams about me

STOP pls

Cringe

heisback [#9]

No, I don't. For the record, I'm watching CSGO right now, the thing is that you are a biased liar that distorts numbers in favor of CSGO all the time.

STOP COMPARING TO CSGO OLDER NUMBERS, CS tournaments popularity dropped a lot from that time till today, wake up, compare with the numbers we had this or last year, then you may have a point.

https://www.hltv.org/events/4901/iem-katowice-2020
Feb 24th - Mar 1st 2020

hekzy [#11]

You've been banned for several days multiple times for acting like a child. You always argue the same way, you present yourself the same way and you even argue with ME specifically as if we past even though I've only spoken to "heisback" once.

Deluded kid, get a life.

HAHAHAHAHAHA I'm not saying who I am, but we've argued before.

heisback [#12]

And what was the 75% thing all about? Are you saying that Shroud represents 75% of world vierwship you braindead idiot? Shround has a max of 80 thousand concurrent vierwers while the game of Valorant has more than 300k, meanwhile Gaules has 150k while CS also has 300k, so Gaules is half of CS while Shroud is a little more than 25% you dumb imbecile.

I'm saying that Shroud, Myth and Ninja had 75% of the viewers in first strike.

hekzy [#11]

You've been banned for several days multiple times for acting like a child. You always argue the same way, you present yourself the same way and you even argue with ME specifically as if we past even though I've only spoken to "heisback" once.

Deluded kid, get a life.

Imagine being a CS fanboy and the own country don't have a scene lmao

hekzy [#14]

https://www.hltv.org/events/4901/iem-katowice-2020
Feb 24th - Mar 1st 2020

A time when Valorant didn't even exist and had no tournaments, half of that already turned to Val and don't even play CS anymore, meanwhile that was an world event and a Major, comparable to the Champions in the end of the year, not comparable to a Regional masters...

heisback [#15]

HAHAHAHAHAHA I'm not saying who I am, but we've argued before.

You're cringe. Get a life.

supernova [#17]

Imagine being a CS fanboy and the own country don't have a scene lmao

Yes, I'm a CS and Valorant fanboy. Is that a crime? Should I only follow League of Legends because greece is good there? Also, you forgot to switch accounts you absolute imbecile. Degenerate disappointment.

hekzy [#16]

I'm saying that Shroud, Myth and Ninja had 75% of the viewers in first strike.

WTF are u saying bro
Shroud wasn't even on Twitch when First Strike happened

hekzy [#16]

I'm saying that Shroud, Myth and Ninja had 75% of the viewers in first strike.

First strike or masters? And not at all they amounted of a max of 120k, while Valorant had 350k peak concurrent viewers, Gaules makes a higher percentage of CS viewers, and in CS it's a world tournament while Valorant is a Regional tournament, 120k from 350 peak from an NA tournament, if its a global tournament it will 120k from a 500~600k tournament, wich is even less than 30%.

hekzy [#20]

Yes, I'm a CS and Valorant fanboy. Is that a crime? Should I only follow League of Legends because greece is good there? Also, you forgot to switch accounts you absolute imbecile. Degenerate disappointment.

Stop being obsessed with me
I'll call the police

hekzy [#20]

Yes, I'm a CS and Valorant fanboy. Is that a crime? Should I only follow League of Legends because greece is good there? Also, you forgot to switch accounts you absolute imbecile. Degenerate disappointment.

How can we type with 6s difference you moron, you are making a fool of yourself. I have two computers turned on just to answer you? lol cringe

heisback [#24]

How can we type with 6s difference you moron, you are making a fool of yourself. I have two computers turned on just to answer you? lol cringe

hahahahahahahahahah like its so hard to change accounts in 30 seconds. Or have two devices. Or have two browsers. You are literally pathetic.

hekzy [#25]

hahahahahahahahahah like its so hard to change accounts in 30 seconds. Or have two devices. Or have two browsers. You are literally pathetic.

You accuse me of what you do hahaha this is an old tactic

I would like vlr.gg to clarify who has a secondary account here.

supernova [#26]

You accuse me of what you do hahaha this is an old tactic

I would like vlr.gg to clarify who has a secondary account here.

And which is my second account exactly? You're pathetic. I won't answer any further because it seems like I'm living rent free in your head, I hope everything goes good one day for you.

heisback [#8]

Agreed. With Champions right? Dota's TI got more than 5 million concurrent viewers if I'm not wrong.

maybe but that would be including chinese sites which are problimatic to count to say the least. All i can find is that for the finals on twitch it peaked at 1 million concurrent in the Last ti finals

I don’t understand the whole dick measuring competition between CSGO and Val fans. It’s not that big of a deal. Play whichever one you prefer and don’t shit on people having different preferences. Or, don’t play either, because they’re depressing, addicting, money-making schemes. Watch whichever you prefer, too.

valorant doesn’t have more viewers than cs, but valorant wouldn’t have much less viewers if they didn’t have watch parties

beb0p [#30]

valorant doesn’t have more viewers than cs, but valorant wouldn’t have much less viewers if they didn’t have watch parties

Valorant has more viewers than CS
CSGO has more viewers only in eSports scene
Dumb and fanboy as always, bebop... u never learn

fontea [#28]

maybe but that would be including chinese sites which are problimatic to count to say the least. All i can find is that for the finals on twitch it peaked at 1 million concurrent in the Last ti finals

true

WitLitning [#29]

I don’t understand the whole dick measuring competition between CSGO and Val fans. It’s not that big of a deal. Play whichever one you prefer and don’t shit on people having different preferences. Or, don’t play either, because they’re depressing, addicting, money-making schemes. Watch whichever you prefer, too.

That's exactly what I'm doing, I just don't like people liying about numbers and distorting arguments to look like CS is the bigger game nowadays, wich is a lie.

supernova [#31]

Valorant has more viewers than CS
CSGO has more viewers only in eSports scene
Dumb and fanboy as always, bebop... u never learn

More viewers in esports for the moment, since we didn't have a world tournament in Val yet and CSGO's tournaments are all world tournaments.

What is this a competition? Ok, maybe it is, but why make a big deal of it.
If you dislike Valorant, don't waste time in VAL forums, If you dislike CSGO, don't spend time in CSGO forums.
If you like both, then enjoy both. Don't compare games, it's a futile sentiment.

Pablo [#35]

What is this a competition? Ok, maybe it is, but why make a big deal of it.
If you dislike Valorant, don't waste time in VAL forums, If you dislike CSGO, don't spend time in CSGO forums.
If you like both, then enjoy both. Don't compare games, it's a futile sentiment.

True, I watch both, the thing is that people come to this forum, wich is Valorant website to inflate CSGO's numbers and distort arguments to look like CS will always be bigger, and that's a lie.

supernova [#31]

Valorant has more viewers than CS
CSGO has more viewers only in eSports scene
Dumb and fanboy as always, bebop... u never learn

I’m talking about esports, I know valorant has more viewers in general. dumbass

heisback [#36]

True, I watch both, the thing is that people come to this forum, wich is Valorant website to inflate CSGO's numbers and distort arguments to look like CS will always be bigger, and that's a lie.

I agree, on your first point. Also not to be devils advocate here, but CS has lasted the test of time, and I think will continue.
And btw I don't play CSGO, I still play 1.6, it's a better game in my opinion, regardless of graphics, I have more fun playing it than CSGO.
You will always have the minority, who fanboy over one game more than another, but the more attention you give them, the more attention they will get.

My advice is, Ignore, or even dont reply to the troll, fanboy comment's, and chances are, people will forget they even exist.

heisback [#33]

That's exactly what I'm doing, I just don't like people liying about numbers and distorting arguments to look like CS is the bigger game nowadays, wich is a lie.

I’m sure you’re fine, I was speaking more to the obvious CS trolls and oblivious Val stans that routinely hurt each other’s feelings over which game they prefer.