lets go bro top 5 igl NA for a top 5 team NA
Gutssz [#2]top5 NA igl btw
1- FNS
2- Vanity
3- dephh
4- Valyn
5- Stellar
I would put depth 2 because he did better than vanity mostly
esney [#3]I would put depth 2 because he did better than vanity mostly
Vanity has done way better lmao
capital_d_colon [#6]dephh igl > vanity igl
vanity kda > dephh kda
vanity kda will not be > dephh kda on this c9 team
everyone else gon be getting the kills
Gutssz [#2]top5 NA igl btw
1- FNS
2- Vanity
3- dephh
4- Valyn
5- Stellar
This shouldn't be up for discussion in the slightest IMO
I'm down for some variance in ranking, such as I think Dephh is 2 atm because of sustained success and Stellar maybe ahead of Valyn but still these are by far the best and its a crime that Valyn isn't on a franchised team.
Wiggs [#5]In terms of what?
what is bro on? Dephh has been to the same amount of LANs and has taken his team to top 8 and top 6, which is the exact as vanity in his two Lans but vanity did it longer ago and against weaker competition. ATM Dephh definitely clears.
GooberBoy [#14]They were together for a long time as a core of three before Dephh got there, yet they never made a Lan or were better than top 4. Dephh comes in and in under a year become the 1 seed in NA. What more can the guy do to convince you? You make the Zekken point but would he be as good as he is now with lets say Dazzle as his IGL instead of Dephh? I doubt it.
doesnt really change what im saying. the igl is not the sole reason for a teams performance. its not like the players are robots that are just waiting to be commanded by the igl. they have to make their own decisions in game as well. its like saying that yay wouldn't be able to perform well as he did on optic just because fns isnt on the team. but that is not true at all. yay is an extremely talented and smart player that will do good no matter what team hes on, just like zekken and cryo. xset performs well because they have been together for a long time, plus they have really good team chemistry and insane players that always show up.
moatz [#15]doesnt really change what im saying. the igl is not the sole reason for a teams performance. its not like the players are robots that are just waiting to be commanded by the igl. they have to make their own decisions in game as well. its like saying that yay wouldn't be able to perform well as he did on optic just because fns isnt on the team. but that is not true at all. yay is an extremely talented and smart player that will do good no matter what team hes on, just like zekken and cryo. xset performs well because they have been together for a long time, plus they have really good team chemistry and insane players that always show up.
So what does an IGL do then lol, and how does Vanity clear Dephh if you're completely invalidating what he's done but are claiming Vanity is better?
GooberBoy [#16]So what does an IGL do then lol, and how does Vanity clear Dephh if you're completely invalidating what he's done but are claiming Vanity is better?
doesnt really change what im saying. the igl is not the sole reason for a teams performance. its not like the players are robots that are just waiting to be commanded by the igl. they have to make their own decisions in game as well. its like saying that yay wouldn't be able to perform well as he did on optic just because fns isnt on the team. but that is not true at all. yay is an extremely talented and smart player that will do good no matter what team hes on, just like zekken and cryo. xset performs well because they have been together for a long time, plus they have really good team chemistry and insane players that always show up.
esney [#3]I would put depth 2 because he did better than vanity mostly
there is a reason why sen fans are called delusional
capital_d_colon [#6]dephh igl > vanity igl
vanity kda > dephh kda
Vanity's fragging has improved only recently and he was criticised for botfragging last year. Dephh really used to put good numbers until Purer got replaced by Cryo.
GooberBoy [#9]what is bro on? Dephh has been to the same amount of LANs and has taken his team to top 8 and top 6, which is the exact as vanity in his two Lans but vanity did it longer ago and against weaker competition. ATM Dephh definitely clears.
Vanity has done it over a longer period and has fragged more + more impact when fragging. Vanity legit beat dephh xset at the first NA VCT and placed 3rd. Then, his team has a dumb roster change which fucks them over. And when vanity joined c9, they immediately won LCQ, thats impact right there.
FrenchToast [#25]“rooster”
the only cock around here that you’re obsessed with is tenz. hop off his dick and stop thinking he needs to be off the roster .
I will not allow this to be downvoted