For the Long term, it would be best for Zander to be signed as the 6th man, because as of right now there is no place for him in the starting 5. Bang is a way better controller, top#2 NA and getting better, and Stellar is a better igl than him. However, Zander has a lot of potential, which I think Sgarres could draw out of him. The weakest spot of 100T roster is Stellar, give Sgarres a few months and I believe he can get Zander playing at his full potential and make their previous weak point, one of their strongest. Plus Bang, Zander, and Cryo all have chemistry as they have played on a team before, and bang and Zander stream together. Overall I think this would be a perfect use of the 6th man spot, and a great move for the future of the team in general.
Why 100T should sign Zander as the 6th man
dexter000111 [#2]I'm not reading that but all I have to say is 100T don't need Zander (don't get me wrong Zander is a cracked player)
But stellar is much better. He's more flexible, he's a better IGL and he has shown actual results unlike Zander
In Short, Stellar is best for short term, but Zander has more potential, but he sucky rn, so have Sgarres help him out and make him as good as he can be, so later on when zander is better the team is a lot better too
spookmeister [#5]No
Stellar > Zander
Plus zander plays smokes and bang is way better than him on it
Zander can fill, but he sucks at it, so he can spend time learning to get better w Sgarres. If it doesn't work out then you still have stellar and a very very strong roster
1juno [#3]In Short, Stellar is best for short term, but Zander has more potential, but he sucky rn, so have Sgarres help him out and make him as good as he can be, so later on when zander is better the team is a lot better too
I respect your opinion, tho I can't say I agree with you
dexter000111 [#7]I respect your opinion, tho I can't say I agree with you
I respect that but I think the 6th man spot would be the best for a player with alot of potential but not at the top level yet, which I think Zander is, So why not take a chance at a future superstar, I can't really see a better way to use the 6th man roster spot
1juno [#3]In Short, Stellar is best for short term, but Zander has more potential, but he sucky rn, so have Sgarres help him out and make him as good as he can be, so later on when zander is better the team is a lot better too
Why not just dedicate this illusive time you're on about to Stellar instead, cause by inserting an unnecessary variable like an igl sixth man (which is in my opinion is a very bad idea cause it would indicate that they are looking to replace stellar which could impact his performance), you could fuck with the established vibes and strats which just seems so weird. Also, zander's calling seems to be very different from the kind of rock-solid, give them no opportunities to make plays approach 100t is striving for imo (sounds abstract I know).
P.S. there are players with more potential than Zander on the market as well imo
I feel like this is a good shout. Zander has shown his potential in the past, is most likely not getting picked up by any other org seeing as how there are arguably five better IGL's out there, and with Sean 'Sean Gares' Gares molding Zander into a better player and shot caller I think he could develop into an insane player, even if he would have to learn a more flex role.
Spec [#10]Why not just dedicate this illusive time you're on about to Stellar instead, cause by inserting an unnecessary variable like an igl sixth man (which is in my opinion is a very bad idea cause it would indicate that they are looking to replace stellar which could impact his performance), you could fuck with the established vibes and strats which just seems so weird. Also, zander's calling seems to be very different from the kind of rock-solid, give them no opportunities to make plays approach 100t is striving for imo (sounds abstract I know).
P.S. there are players with more potential than Zander on the market as well imo
That's fair, it would be kind of shitty to do to stellar, also zander's play calling can be changed as he learns from Sgarres, and It's unlikely that 100T would do this because they don't want to put Stellar in that kind of position but if they were purely focused on talent, and winning it would be a great move. I just really like the upside Zander has and think if he can play at his full potential, he could be the best igl NA and maybe in the world, but right now he is far from it.
sheahhhh [#8]stellar is mediocre but zander is worse plus roles don't line up
mediocre just like your takes
1juno [#12]That's fair, it would be kind of shitty to do to stellar, also zander's play calling can be changed as he learns from Sgarres, and It's unlikely that 100T would do this because they don't want to put Stellar in that kind of position but if they were purely focused on talent, and winning it would be a great move. I just really like the upside Zander has and think if he can play at his full potential, he could be the best igl NA and maybe in the world, but right now he is far from it.
Understandable. If anyone could get improved by Sean's guidance it would be someone like Zander. Also, I feel like Zander's igling isn't even that bad. I just feel like it hasn't gotten many more layers to it since stage 1, and 100t could deffo help with that, so maybe he could be world-class.
looklook [#17]i dont think zander needs to goto 100T or C9
just goto EG NRG or even SENzander is good player, id say he has the best fragging potential in NA between all IGL. definitely deserves a spot in franchise but not 100T or c9
I think if he gets signed it won't be as an igl, maybe a controller, but I think it's unlikely because recently he's been kind of bad and his buyout is expensive. Most teams probably won't want to pay a lot of money upfront for him at the moment
looklook [#17]i dont think zander needs to goto 100T or C9
just goto EG NRG or even SENzander is good player, id say he has the best fragging potential in NA between all IGL. definitely deserves a spot in franchise but not 100T or c9
bro has no fragging potential
fardeengg [#18]I dont evern understand all this hype about zander is it because of that 5-0 groups after that idk what he did loosing in mickey mouse tourneys
Most Igls lack good mechanics and aim but make up for it with their calls, which is why people say if FNS had good aim/mechanics he would be the best player in the world. Zander has great aim/mechanics and is very smart and an good ( very sucky recently ) igl, If he improves his calls and ability to play as a flex he could be like FNS if he had great aim/mechanics.
Zander is neither a top 5 IGL or controller in NA. But I do think the idea of having him as a 6th man isn't a bad one for any org. In case of situation where he has to sub in , he can fill the difficult spots of an IGL or controller which is a very resourceful option at your disposal. However keeping him as a future to replace Stellar isn't a good idea
1juno [#21]Most Igls lack good mechanics and aim but make up for it with their calls, which is why people say if FNS had good aim/mechanics he would be the best player in the world. Zander has great aim/mechanics and is very smart and an good ( very sucky recently ) igl, If he improves his calls and ability to play as a flex he could be like FNS if he had great aim/mechanics.
stop dreaming
aK1Oz3S [#22]Zander is neither a top 5 IGL or controller in NA. But I do think the idea of having him as a 6th man isn't a bad one for any org. In case of situation where he has to sub in , he can fill the difficult spots of an IGL or controller which is a very resourceful option at your disposal. However keeping him as a future to replace Stellar isn't a good idea
I think Zander has great potential and could be a top igl that can frag out too, which is absurdly rare. I think it's worth it based purely on the chance of Sgarres helping Zander realize his true potential and play at his full potential, because if he can play at his full potential he could be an insanely good player
fardeengg [#23]stop dreaming
Bro if 100t can make will look like Jesus Christ on Lan, imagine what they can do for someone who has always been kinda good, but recently has been semi-quiet. I don't think he could get to FNS levels, but I think he could be a fairly cohesive piece of 100t. He's also worked with the some of the members in the past and it looked fairly good
P.S. personally, I don't support the move to get zander, but it has certain nuances.
1juno [#19]I think if he gets signed it won't be as an igl, maybe a controller, but I think it's unlikely because recently he's been kind of bad and his buyout is expensive. Most teams probably won't want to pay a lot of money upfront for him at the moment
surely V1 player buyout isnt that big when they probs get like half of c9 players salary
also i feel like zander has a really good potential to be a good igl. V1 played like shit near the end but like they had missing roster and probs didnt really care at that point. I just feel that franchised teams need a IGL that can frag too. I do agree that FNS is a better IGL and he can call confidently for the team better than anyone but we saw in optic vs loud that FNS is also a massive hole in their team.
vanity is probs best balanced igl that can call confidently for the team and frag too since hes stats are really good on smokes. Problem with zander is that he sounds depressed all the time lol so i do agree that he doesnt really suit igl, but a good fragging player that can play smokes regardless
Spec [#25]Bro if 100t can make will look like Jesus Christ on Lan, imagine what they can do for someone who has always been kinda good, but recently has been semi-quiet. I don't think he could get to FNS levels, but I think he could be a fairly cohesive piece of 100t. He's also worked with the some of the members in the past and it looked fairly good
P.S. personally, I don't support the move to get zander, but it has certain nuances.
sorry to break it to you he have to prove himself in t2 he is loosing mickey mouse tourney how can he compete against some of the best in the world
Spec [#25]Bro if 100t can make will look like Jesus Christ on Lan, imagine what they can do for someone who has always been kinda good, but recently has been semi-quiet. I don't think he could get to FNS levels, but I think he could be a fairly cohesive piece of 100t. He's also worked with the some of the members in the past and it looked fairly good
P.S. personally, I don't support the move to get zander, but it has certain nuances.
I think sgarres can make some magic Happen just like he did with bang, before 100T and at the beginning of 100T bang didn’t play controller, rather initiator. Then he was moved to controller and over time he’s gotten comfortable and really showed how good he can be and he keeps getting better too
fardeengg [#27]sorry to break it to you he have to prove himself in t2 he is loosing mickey mouse tourney how can he compete against some of the best in the world
I know that bro. What I was trying to get across to you was the idea that zander proved himself to be one of best in stage 1 (We don't talk bout playoffs), but after stage 1, he seems to have completely messed up how his igling aligns with the meta which caused him to not even be the igl on the team anymore (I'm pretty sure). I think if Zander wants to become an unstoppable pillar of NA, he needs to go to 100t cause they are so good at bringing the best out of people and I think he has a lot of wasted potential imo.
(I also said I don't fucking support the move)
1juno [#24]I think Zander has great potential and could be a top igl that can frag out too, which is absurdly rare. I think it's worth it based purely on the chance of Sgarres helping Zander realize his true potential and play at his full potential, because if he can play at his full potential he could be an insanely good player
What happens when he never shows his potential and the team fails? Are you really willing to put stock into his potential as supposed to sticking with what is working? I get that the community has high stock invested in him but at this point, you can say the same thing about any upcoming young igls no? Like sgarres could help valyn or even the eg's igl "realize their potential". I don't think Zander is a bad player by any means but this whole argument about rating/choosing zander over any of the top 5 rated NA team's igls during last vct's stage (Fns, Deph, Stellar, Valyn,Poised) seems dumb especially the ones that have been to international lands and have proving themselves imo.
Vye [#30]What happens when he never shows his potential and the team fails? Are you really willing to put stock into his potential as supposed to sticking with what is working? I get that the community has high stock invested in him but at this point, you can say the same thing about any upcoming young igls no? Like sgarres could help valyn or even the eg's igl "realize their potential". I don't think Zander is a bad player by any means but this whole argument about rating/choosing zander over any of the top 5 rated NA team's igls during last vct's stage (Fns, Deph, Stellar, Valyn,Poised) seems dumb especially the ones that have been to international lands and have proving themselves imo.
If it fails, then you have stellar, stellar is still very good and he can lead a top team. I think using the 6th man roster spot to try and create a top na igl would be worth it, 100T is so good at bringing the best out of their players for example bang wasnt even a controller when he started playing for 100T, now look at him
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