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#1
Guihan

Recently, many NA Valorant fans are saying that BR is a one team region, however NA it's as well, envy/optic is the only with achievements since sentinels win in the first international LAN

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W

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Na is one team dominated but the 2nd best team is alot better than the 2nd best team in brazil.

im not complaining though. i think 5-3-2 is fine.

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BR has had one team that is good and that can contend at international events

NA has had 7 or 8

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Mca
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BBL_Wtcn
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Yes because they are biased and delusional

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RickyIndian [#4]

BR has had one team that is good and that can contend at international events

NA has had 7 or 8

Don’t pull teams out of your ass

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h9zard
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no 100T made semis, SEN,C9,XSET made playoffs again. Name one team from Brazil that got out of groups other than LOUD/Vikings?

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RickyIndian
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BBL_Wtcn [#7]

Don’t pull teams out of your ass

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OpTic (won), SEN (won), XSET (good champs performance), 100T (top 4), C9 (good showing in 2021 champs), V1 (good showing in Iceland 2021), Guard (didn't play well at Iceland 2022, but have shown glimpses of brilliance regionally). faze, NRG, and EG could all do some damage internationally

brazil on the other hand, has only had 1 team make it out of groups in an international LAN (loud at this years champs)

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bonkashi
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RickyIndian [#9]

?

OpTic (won), SEN (won), XSET (good champs performance), 100T (top 4), C9 (good showing in 2021 champs), V1 (good showing in Iceland 2021), Guard (didn't play well at Iceland 2022, but have shown glimpses of brilliance regionally). faze, NRG, and EG could all do some damage internationally

brazil on the other hand, has only had 1 team make it out of groups in an international LAN (loud at this years champs)

You cannot say "can contend at international events" then list The Guard 💀. They had on good run at Challengers 1 then fell off a cliff and have sucked since.

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RickyIndian
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bonkashi [#10]

You cannot say "can contend at international events" then list The Guard 💀. They had on good run at Challengers 1 then fell off a cliff and have sucked since.

after their first LCQ match, they looked pretty good and almost made it to champs

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RickyIndian [#11]

after their first LCQ match, they looked pretty good and almost made it to champs

ok bro that makes zero sense just drop Guard from the list

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RickyIndian
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h9zard [#12]

ok bro that makes zero sense just drop Guard from the list

even if i drop guard from the list, they still placed better than all the brazillian teams ever at an international event (other than LOUD of course)

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RickyIndian [#13]

even if i drop guard from the list, they still placed better than all the brazillian teams ever at an international event (other than LOUD of course)

no I agree its just Guard was a huge disappointment

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Marshal_D_Teach
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RickyIndian [#11]

after their first LCQ match, they looked pretty good and almost made it to champs

So we can't say the same about TBK that almost win against KRU?

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alexxx
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RickyIndian [#9]

?

OpTic (won), SEN (won), XSET (good champs performance), 100T (top 4), C9 (good showing in 2021 champs), V1 (good showing in Iceland 2021), Guard (didn't play well at Iceland 2022, but have shown glimpses of brilliance regionally). faze, NRG, and EG could all do some damage internationally

brazil on the other hand, has only had 1 team make it out of groups in an international LAN (loud at this years champs)

faze, NRG, and EG could all do some damage internationally

im dead

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RickyIndian
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alexxx [#16]

faze, NRG, and EG could all do some damage internationally

im dead

no brazillian teams can

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zeldrols
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Na fans only watch Na teams. A lot of the fans are super delusional on their team currently lol. Aside from top 1-2 team in NA the rest aren't really comparable at all to international competition.

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RickyIndian
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Marshal_D_Teach [#15]

So we can't say the same about TBK that almost win against KRU?

let's take guard off the list then

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bruc
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Well your right, but overall NA qualified more in playoffs compare to br

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h9zard
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h9zard [#8]

no 100T made semis, SEN,C9,XSET made playoffs again. Name one team from Brazil that got out of groups other than LOUD/Vikings?

thats what I thought

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RickyIndian [#9]

?

OpTic (won), SEN (won), XSET (good champs performance), 100T (top 4), C9 (good showing in 2021 champs), V1 (good showing in Iceland 2021), Guard (didn't play well at Iceland 2022, but have shown glimpses of brilliance regionally). faze, NRG, and EG could all do some damage internationally

brazil on the other hand, has only had 1 team make it out of groups in an international LAN (loud at this years champs)

you do realized a lot of the teams you list have had major changes and competition have shifted so much since then. If 100T got group at international, none of the NA teams below them would do shit lol

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bruc [#20]

Well your right, but overall NA qualified more in playoffs compare to br

Made because NA can handle pressure compare to BR

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capital_d_colon [#3]

Na is one team dominated but the 2nd best team is alot better than the 2nd best team in brazil.

im not complaining though. i think 5-3-2 is fine.

Not exactly tho. I don’t think this is a NA vs Br, this is a NA vs SA and that includes LEV who no, it’s not very far away from XSET, both kinda equal if you ask me. Lev lost to FPX just like XSET and Loud champions

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zeldrols [#22]

you do realized a lot of the teams you list have had major changes and competition have shifted so much since then. If 100T got group at international, none of the NA teams below them would do shit lol

brazil has had the same opportunities to qualify to lans and do some damage.

but they don't.

the NA teams below 100T and such genuinely look like good teams

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capital_d_colon [#3]

Na is one team dominated but the 2nd best team is alot better than the 2nd best team in brazil.

im not complaining though. i think 5-3-2 is fine.

I wouldn't say "a lot better" but better certainly is.

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Mortadelo [#24]

Not exactly tho. I don’t think this is a NA vs Br, this is a NA vs SA and that includes LEV who no, it’s not very far away from XSET, both kinda equal if you ask me. Lev lost to FPX just like XSET and Loud champions

Honestly i thought it was going to end up being 6-3-1.
Ive heard rumours about some shadiness to do with lev.

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zeldrols [#22]

you do realized a lot of the teams you list have had major changes and competition have shifted so much since then. If 100T got group at international, none of the NA teams below them would do shit lol

100T beat FNC once and they lost to DRX during their first LAN appearance with COVID. Arguably another group and they could have made it out.

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RickyIndian [#19]

let's take guard off the list then

#13

C9 and V1 didn't achieve something in 2022 + faze, NRG, and EG didn't get there for u to say something about it.

100t and xset are the ones you could say they do damage internationally. I agree. But if you say NIP and Furia did nothing against Zeta (NiP), DRX (Furia) and Fnatic (Both) u being biased af.

Nip vs Fnatic: https://www.vlr.gg/84371/fnatic-vs-ninjas-in-pyjamas-valorant-champions-tour-stage-1-masters-reykjav-k-opening-a

Nip vs Zeta: https://www.vlr.gg/84646/ninjas-in-pyjamas-vs-zeta-division-valorant-champions-tour-stage-1-masters-reykjav-k-decider-a

Furia vs DRX: https://www.vlr.gg/130632/drx-vs-furia-valorant-champions-2022-group-stage-opening-d

Furia vs Fnatic: https://www.vlr.gg/130635/furia-vs-fnatic-valorant-champions-2022-group-stage-elim-d

They didn't won, but they 4 sure weren't easy opponents. They show they can win good teams internationally. Just need more discipline.

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Marshal_D_Teach [#29]

C9 and V1 didn't achieve something in 2022 + faze, NRG, and EG didn't get there for u to say something about it.

100t and xset are the ones you could say they do damage internationally. I agree. But if you say NIP and Furia did nothing against Zeta (NiP), DRX (Furia) and Fnatic (Both) u being biased af.

Nip vs Fnatic: https://www.vlr.gg/84371/fnatic-vs-ninjas-in-pyjamas-valorant-champions-tour-stage-1-masters-reykjav-k-opening-a

Nip vs Zeta: https://www.vlr.gg/84646/ninjas-in-pyjamas-vs-zeta-division-valorant-champions-tour-stage-1-masters-reykjav-k-decider-a

Furia vs DRX: https://www.vlr.gg/130632/drx-vs-furia-valorant-champions-2022-group-stage-opening-d

Furia vs Fnatic: https://www.vlr.gg/130635/furia-vs-fnatic-valorant-champions-2022-group-stage-elim-d

They didn't won, but they 4 sure weren't easy opponents. They show they can win good teams internationally. Just need more discipline.

NIP beat a fnatic team with 2 subs

NIP lost to a zeta team early in the tournament. Zeta were not as good that early in the tournament as they would end up being later in the tournament.

Furia still got shit on by DRX...

Furia narrowly lost to Fnatic, but you could replace Furia with FaZe, Guard, or NRG and those teams would've done better.

even if those teams you named didn't do anything in 2022, they still had done damage internationally which no team in brazil has done other than LOUD.

#31
Warlordwibz
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NA gets even fairly treated with SA: "Where's our special privileges? We don't like to be treated like others, we want to be special"

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h9zard [#8]

no 100T made semis, SEN,C9,XSET made playoffs again. Name one team from Brazil that got out of groups other than LOUD/Vikings?

still waiting...

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RickyIndian [#30]

NIP beat a fnatic team with 2 subs

NIP lost to a zeta team early in the tournament. Zeta were not as good that early in the tournament as they would end up being later in the tournament.

Furia still got shit on by DRX...

Furia narrowly lost to Fnatic, but you could replace Furia with FaZe, Guard, or NRG and those teams would've done better.

even if those teams you named didn't do anything in 2022, they still had done damage internationally which no team in brazil has done other than LOUD.

NiP had like 3/4 days to scrim in europe since they got from LQC against Leviathan. So they were in a deficit too.

NiP could improve throughtout the tournament too if they win against Zeta. All specutlation, tho...

Furia with a little more discipline would win the first map against DRX, would lost the second and idk about third.

Furia against Fnatic: You are just speculating about Faze, Guard and NRG, but 100t didn't do better than furia against fnatic when it matters.

"They didn't won, but they 4 sure weren't easy opponents. They show they can win good teams internationally. Just need more discipline."

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SigmaMale
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xset and 100t did well this champs, no?

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capital_d_colon [#27]

Honestly i thought it was going to end up being 6-3-1.
Ive heard rumours about some shadiness to do with lev.

Yeah Boodrok did say something like that he just didn’t publish it or specify much. We’ll see, it could still be si just really hope Lev and Kru get their spots

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Marshal_D_Teach [#33]

NiP had like 3/4 days to scrim in europe since they got from LQC against Leviathan. So they were in a deficit too.

NiP could improve throughtout the tournament too if they win against Zeta. All specutlation, tho...

Furia with a little more discipline would win the first map against DRX, would lost the second and idk about third.

Furia against Fnatic: You are just speculating about Faze, Guard and NRG, but 100t didn't do better than furia against fnatic when it matters.

"They didn't won, but they 4 sure weren't easy opponents. They show they can win good teams internationally. Just need more discipline."

This argument is so flawed. SEN had covid and didn't have any time to practice for their match against 100T and lost the 3rd map 13-11. What could have been...

It only really matters how they showed up tho

Furia would've lost the 3rd map anyways

100T literally beat Fnatic one time tf? FaZe, Guard, and NRG all looked much better than Furia.

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RickyIndian [#36]

This argument is so flawed. SEN had covid and didn't have any time to practice for their match against 100T and lost the 3rd map 13-11. What could have been...

It only really matters how they showed up tho

Furia would've lost the 3rd map anyways

100T literally beat Fnatic one time tf? FaZe, Guard, and NRG all looked much better than Furia.

It means SEN got unluko and they could've won 100T if they had time to practice and make antistrats. I agree with this too. Games aren't just results, alot of factors outside-games are involved.

"Furia would lose the 3rd map anyways"

DRX looked shaky the entire tournament. They just get that far bcz Furia, Fnatic and FPX threw hard a lot of map points by lack of discipline (dumbness I guess)

"100t didn't do better than furia against fnatic when it matters"

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Marshal_D_Teach [#37]

It means SEN got unluko and they could've won 100T if they had time to practice and make antistrats. I agree with this too. Games aren't just results, alot of factors outside-games are involved.

"Furia would lose the 3rd map anyways"

DRX looked shaky the entire tournament. They just get that far bcz Furia, Fnatic and FPX threw hard a lot of map points by lack of discipline (dumbness I guess)

"100t didn't do better than furia against fnatic when it matters"

for your 4th point: every game matters. you shouldn't value one game over the other as a player or a viewer (unless it's a seeding game)

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Mortadelo [#24]

Not exactly tho. I don’t think this is a NA vs Br, this is a NA vs SA and that includes LEV who no, it’s not very far away from XSET, both kinda equal if you ask me. Lev lost to FPX just like XSET and Loud champions

lol why are you getting downvoted

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boberto1108 [#39]

lol why are you getting downvoted

ay shut up boberto tu eres muy estupido

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