Which "brand" do you prefer
personally i think envy was a better and more historic org
Envy sounded cooler and nicer logo imo but optic has the "world class team" kind of vibe for me
probably bias from my side. but from some of the games ive followed. envy in overwatch was the best north american team in csgo envy won a major. also good in rocket league.
I like envy owned both fraud NA orgs - 100T and SEN .
envy cooler name. optic has the rep behind the name
Idk but if the optic roster switches to TSM for franchising I will be sad
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