Now i get that they are a promising team, but they havent proved themselves on LAN yet. Guard and XSET have shown how that can go so lets wait and see instead of overhyping tf out of the players
sheahhhh [#4]Xset are washing flukepx
honestly in copenhagen i didnt expect much but holy fuck they were bad,has to be the fluke of the year if it happens
Mortadelo [#8]Fr dude seems like they haven’t learned the lesson from the other fans overhyping their teams like LOUD or FNC. And same goes to EDG fans.
G2 fan talking 🤣 couldnt even make champs
Kiko [#10]didnt 100t with 65 yr old man hiko beat gambit on lan?
idk why you think thats impressive
james_reece [#12]G2 fan talking 🤣 couldnt even make champs
And that’s why I don’t overhype them lol
Kiko [#10]didnt 100t with 65 yr old man hiko beat gambit on lan?
yeah but that was a different team tf you mean
V0sotros [#7]we've been holding off on the hopium for too long and now we all ODed
the good old hopium
Mortadelo [#16]And that’s why I don’t overhype them lol
I guess, but whats wrong with fans hyping up their teams? I dont think its wrong
Yicko [#6]I don't see any NA team except OpTic making it out of groups unfortunately
Dogtic gonna get owned by loud and then by 100T in palyoffs quarter finals
asdfgh [#19]imagine ur 1st seed looks worse than guild lmfao
Ok optic threw vs guild, fnc and FPX << but guild gets destroyed in rematch
VAL_OMEGALUL_RANT [#2]only 100T fans overhyping them, same as guard and xshit fans
Xshit fans ain't over hyping nothing.
Edit: Just saw that guys comment below you are correct.
we hype up the teams we like. people like you just get weird when it's not the team you support. Generally, people are fans because they choose to, not only because they perform well. Who cares if you think they suck, or haven't proven themselves. If everyone liked the best, highest stat, best performing teams, there would be no point.
KyLZi [#29]Xshit fans ain't over hyping nothing.
Edit: Just saw that guys comment below you are correct.
dw he changes flair every week so ur point still stands
gerritz [#30]we hype up the teams we like. people like you just get weird when it's not the team you support. Generally, people are fans because they choose to, not only because they perform well. Who cares if you think they suck, or haven't proven themselves. If everyone liked the best, highest stat, best performing teams, there would be no point.
Based AF
pitchfork [#15]"100T the emea killer"
different roster except asuna 😭
So they don’t count as 100T lmao ok. So if team changes up roster previous go doesn’t count, VLR logic
I guess some peoples don't remember more than 1 months ago. they lost in their second match in even masters challengers but no problem they won against tier 2 teams in lcq and people think they will dominate against top tier world teams. same shit for tl too, they will eliminate in their group matches again
Daniveus [#33]100T looked good last two series, they play really smart.
If they keep this recent form they can do well. Whether they get out of groups, depends on how fnatic is playing.
Fnatic didn't look good last masters and seemed to be on a downward spiral, so we never know.
Yeah they kinda got bad draw on groups but that’s what happens in 3 seed. Still there is a world where they make it out of groups.
Barre [#42]Why is it wrong hyping them? Team we support and I would like to think that they play very solid and consistent valorant compared to other teams.
don't try to make an EU frog see clearly. They are forever lost.
UnEstoppable [#35]We forgetting Masters Berlin where they beat every EMEA team? interesting
that's the old roster dummy
sheahhhh [#4]Xset are washing flukepx
Fpx this year:
1st place Emea challengers 1
Unable to attend masters 1 due to visa issues
2nd place Emea challengers 2
1st place masters 2
Xset
4th place na challengers 1
1st place na challengers 2
Lost both games at Copenhagen
But yes Fpx is definitely the bad inconsistent fluke team and Xset is the better team for sure
Tomatongfuel [#46]Fpx this year:
1st place Emea challengers 1
Unable to attend masters 1 due to visa issues
2nd place Emea challengers 2
1st place masters 2Xset
4th place na challengers 1
1st place na challengers 2
Lost both games at CopenhagenBut yes Fpx is definitely the bad inconsistent fluke team and Xset is the better team for sure
teams change buddy and get better
UnEstoppable [#45]Lmao, “old roster, doesn’t count”
no.. what ? xD
what are u talking about lil bro ? cuz we're talking about the current teams
PrTsty [#25]Dogtic gonna get owned by loud and then by 100T in palyoffs quarter finals
Yay doggystyles Will and makes him bark
gerritz [#30]we hype up the teams we like. people like you just get weird when it's not the team you support. Generally, people are fans because they choose to, not only because they perform well. Who cares if you think they suck, or haven't proven themselves. If everyone liked the best, highest stat, best performing teams, there would be no point.
Gigachad
chemicqls [#53]Guard yeah they looked really good, and had to go against optic first round which was unlucky, xset I never really believed in, but 100T are def looking the best out of those 3, they have great players who can multi frag and good strats.
I can see a world Beere they make it far but they are no favourites for sure
sheahhhh [#47]teams change buddy and get better
Yea but XSET has shown no signs of improvement....while FPX has constantly been at the top of the scene this year
UnEstoppable [#37]So they don’t count as 100T lmao ok. So if team changes up roster previous go doesn’t count, VLR logic
? i never said that
im specifically talking abt the emea killer argument which isn't relevant cz they're with different roster this time
FoechiGG [#54]I can see a world Beere they make it far but they are no favourites for sure
Yea if I'm going through a logical POV, they aren't favorites. But i actually do think they are gonna do well from what I've seen
sheahhhh [#47]teams change buddy and get better
Neither team has made any roster change. If you’re talking about the team improving overall, yeah I agree Xset probably has improved, given they actually made LAN second time round. Xset improving does not make fpx a fluke. And I doubt XSET has improved significantly relative to an fpx team that is obviously always improving themselves etc.
Tomatongfuel [#60]Neither team has made any roster change. If you’re talking about the team improving overall, yeah I agree Xset probably has improved, given they actually made LAN second time round. Xset improving does not make fpx a fluke. And I doubt XSET has improved significantly relative to an fpx team that is obviously always improving themselves etc.
They are on a talent base
Cryo>ardis
Zekken>zyppan
Suygestu>ayrin
Shao>depth
Bcj>=ange1
sheahhhh [#61]They are on a talent base
Cryo>ardis
Zekken>zyppan
Suygestu>ayrin
Shao>depth
Bcj>=ange1
Cryo: taco diffed
Ayrin: who?
Depth: who? X2
Bcj: top 2 initiator in the world KEKW
zekken: only that play good in lan
Zaba [#62]Cryo: taco diffed
Ayrin: who?
Depth: who? X2
Bcj: top 2 initiator in the world KEKW
zekken: only that play good in lan
Cryo actually diffed taco 15-10 in their game and had some of the best stats
The other 3 played like garbage true but after bootcanp I think they play better
sheahhhh [#61]They are on a talent base
Cryo>ardis
Zekken>zyppan
Suygestu>ayrin
Shao>depth
Bcj>=ange1
If you think teams work like this idk what to say
Not only are some of these highly questionable it’s just not how an org that wins works in a developed esport
Do coaching staff not count in your comparison? How about analysts? Why not? Is it because you can’t open up stats from masters 2 and filter for acs? And this is even assuming that you can claim stuff like cryo > ardiis when their teams function very differently - Xset is set up to lean heavily on cryo and encourage him to frag as much as possible whereas FPX have a different setup. Point is teams don’t work on individual 1v1 fragging ability. Believe it or not its a 5v5 TACTICAL shooter.
Tomatongfuel [#64]If you think teams work like this idk what to say
Not only are some of these highly questionable it’s just not how an org that wins works in a developed esport
Do coaching staff not count in your comparison? How about analysts? Why not? Is it because you can’t open up stats from masters 2 and filter for acs? And this is even assuming that you can claim stuff like cryo > ardiis when their teams function very differently - Xset is set up to lean heavily on cryo and encourage him to frag as much as possible whereas FPX have a different setup. Point is teams don’t work on individual 1v1 fragging ability. Believe it or not its a 5v5 TACTICAL shooter.
Which ones are questionable?
Also cryo is a 100% better than ardiss
U have nothing else to base it off that's objective apart from stats
Also how tf do you want me to compare coaching staff like I'm a pro, doombros is good but coaches are made by their achievements and sykko can still achieve at this toruney
sheahhhh [#65]Which ones are questionable?
Also cryo is a 100% better than ardiss
U have nothing else to base it off that's objective apart from stats
Also how tf do you want me to compare coaching staff like I'm a pro, doombros is good but coaches are made by their achievements and sykko can still achieve at this toruney
The available stats to compare cryo and ardiis are from one tournament where Xset got eliminated so quickly that their stats aren’t even usable due to sample size issues. Cryo is a really good player btw, I’m not here trying to put him down. And my point about coaching staff is that you can’t really compare them without looking at their achievements. In a certain way the same can be said of IGLs - we don’t know what they’re calling, how they call, how effective it is other than by examining the end product. You can’t compare teams on individual differences, and looking at the players for a team and sorting by acs is not even a good way to see how good a player is.
Tomatongfuel [#66]The available stats to compare cryo and ardiis are from one tournament where Xset got eliminated so quickly that their stats aren’t even usable due to sample size issues. Cryo is a really good player btw, I’m not here trying to put him down. And my point about coaching staff is that you can’t really compare them without looking at their achievements. In a certain way the same can be said of IGLs - we don’t know what they’re calling, how they call, how effective it is other than by examining the end product. You can’t compare teams on individual differences, and looking at the players for a team and sorting by acs is not even a good way to see how good a player is.
well its vlr so i can