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What if Dapr plays as Controller and Sick plays as Initiator ?

Tenz - Chamber or Duelist
Zellsis - Duelist or Initiator
Shahzam - Initiator / Sentinel

This is what I expected them to do in the beginning, not saying dapr's style is selfish but I think he thrives being the controller with lurks and stuff(we saw this on viper). Fragging smokes players are the meta rn also and Shroud is just better off on a role which is all about setting up people(fade, kayo, sova). And if you disagree with fragging smokes not being meta look at all the teams that have won in these LCQ matches, most of them have a smokes player that is second or 3rd on acs(purely frags not counting other forms of impact).

Asokra [#2]

This is what I expected them to do in the beginning, not saying dapr's style is selfish but I think he thrives being the controller with lurks and stuff(we saw this on viper). Fragging smokes players are the meta rn also and Shroud is just better off on a role which is all about setting up people(fade, kayo, sova). And if you disagree with fragging smokes not being meta look at all the teams that have won in these LCQ matches, most of them have a smokes player that is second or 3rd on acs(purely frags not counting other forms of impact).

Yes and it enables Sick to frag along side their duelists

I think Dapr would be so good on smokes. His lurk timings are so good.

Wiggs [#4]

I think Dapr would be so good on smokes. His lurk timings are so good.

Have to see what the players decide, but Dapr on smokes could work very well

That's what Nats did and hes one of the best controllers in EMEA

I just think the biggest issue from Sentinels is just the roles, if they figure their shit down they will all be at max potential. TenZ was great on reyna now all reyna players are on kayo/skye(sheydos,mada, zeek,asuna, more people). Shahzam was a great jett opper and passive like yay in a way and now all jett oppers are on chamber(I don't need to list). List can really go on for all players on that core roster having most sentinels switch to initiator or smokes while dapr kept playing chamber for stage 1 and stage 2. Sick also being a primary entry not playing the entry roles while TenZ a second entry was forced onto the entry role just because of terrible role decisions.

Ideal Sentinels(with zombs and sick)

Shahz - Chamber
TenZ- skye/kayo
Sick - Neon/Raze
Dapr - Sova/Fade
Zombs - Controller

Asokra [#7]

I just think the biggest issue from Sentinels is just the roles, if they figure their shit down they will all be at max potential. TenZ was great on reyna now all reyna players are on kayo/skye(sheydos,mada, zeek,asuna, more people). Shahzam was a great jett opper and passive like yay in a way and now all jett oppers are on chamber(I don't need to list). List can really go on for all players on that core roster having most sentinels switch to initiator or smokes while dapr kept playing chamber for stage 1 and stage 2. Sick also being a primary entry not playing the entry roles while TenZ a second entry was forced onto the entry role just because of terrible role decisions.

Ideal Sentinels(with zombs and sick)

Shahz - Chamber
TenZ- skye/kayo
Sick - Neon/Raze
Dapr - Sova/Fade
Zombs - Controller

Shahz has said he hates chamber im pretty sure and also without zombs dapr would be a great controller cuz he’s so good at lurking

Asokra [#7]

I just think the biggest issue from Sentinels is just the roles, if they figure their shit down they will all be at max potential. TenZ was great on reyna now all reyna players are on kayo/skye(sheydos,mada, zeek,asuna, more people). Shahzam was a great jett opper and passive like yay in a way and now all jett oppers are on chamber(I don't need to list). List can really go on for all players on that core roster having most sentinels switch to initiator or smokes while dapr kept playing chamber for stage 1 and stage 2. Sick also being a primary entry not playing the entry roles while TenZ a second entry was forced onto the entry role just because of terrible role decisions.

Ideal Sentinels(with zombs and sick)

Shahz - Chamber
TenZ- skye/kayo
Sick - Neon/Raze
Dapr - Sova/Fade
Zombs - Controller

Now that we have Zellsis, what could be the best possible roles for them ?
I'd say Tenz is better as duelist or chamber

YabbaYabba24818 [#8]

Shahz has said he hates chamber im pretty sure and also without zombs dapr would be a great controller cuz he’s so good at lurking

He said it's hard to igl from the role and it would mess with other role issues, with Dapr being out of place. I just think with good vision and people getting out of comfort zones these roles are literally the most ideal roles for them to frag individually and also support each other. Imagine how much more impact Shahzam can when he has an op, he proved it against Optic on Bind for a couple of rounds. If dapr or someone else on the team got comfortable and took up his role it would be just great. Not saying TenZ is a bad chamber but we've seen in 2020/2021 what Shahz can do on Jett, TenZ can do on being a second entry, Sick being the main entry on phoenix.

KatZ [#9]

Now that we have Zellsis, what could be the best possible roles for them ?
I'd say Tenz is better as duelist or chamber

Prolly Zellsis being the main entry most maps.

KatZ [#9]

Now that we have Zellsis, what could be the best possible roles for them ?
I'd say Tenz is better as duelist or chamber

I think TenZ is a great duelist, the stats show him being a great chamber but he wasn't getting as much impact as other chambers when it came to lurks and the slow-style chambers play. Maybe it was just a lack of reps on chamber but I saw many times where he would forget to trip certain spots and lack of tp usage for excessive lurking like what yay and other chambers in NA do(dicey, yay, bdog,) and some chambers in eu(nats, sayf, there are more just don't watch eu that much).

To my knowledge, SicK wasn't comfortable on sova and his kay O wasn't anything special. I think with more agents on the way, being comfortable on multiple agents and roles is the only way you can survive the competition in LCQ and SicK can definitely be that guy. Switch him between Duelist, Controller and initiator like fade in some maps.

imo i think shahzam would be very uncomfortable on the sentinel role, sick can play flex, shahzam initiator, tenz chamber and jett, dapr smokes, zellsis can also flex

snoozna [#14]

imo i think shahzam would be very uncomfortable on the sentinel role, sick can play flex, shahzam initiator, tenz chamber and jett, dapr smokes, zellsis can also flex

People said the same about yay when he first tried chamber.

Asokra [#15]

People said the same about yay when he first tried chamber.

I agree. We won't know until we actually see him on chamber consistently.

P.S. I hope you all have a wonderful day :)

KatZ [#5]

Have to see what the players decide, but Dapr on smokes could work very well

I agree. I think his fade and kayo have looked ok but I think putting SicK on smokes is such a slap in the face to his potential