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about keznit racism and how to avoid cancellation

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#1
DiegoMocu

Ok, I think this is something we all should understand:

TL;DR: keznit isn't racist, but he has the responsibility of caring his own public image defending himself solidly.

The truth is that Keznit has never been racist towards brazilian people, he was very controversial since CS times (accused of ton of shit, including cheating and toxic behaviours), but never a racist person.
Something everybody should admit about keznit is his toxicity in praccs, rankeds, etc. That is something that even he admitted several times.
Now, he has been cancelled by BR Valorant since the pava's friend situation (which was completely out of context), and all along the other circumstances coming out, what I find unfair since he's not shown racist attitudes at any time.
But why is this topic still coming up? Well, it would be easy if keznit had defended himself from all of the accusations with more solid arguments, and not only shittalking his accusers. I'm sorry for keznit, I admire him a lot, and he doesn't deserve all this shit, but as a famous person, you have to be mature and take responsibility of your public image as well as you can, and he has never made a twitlonger in response to all this shit. That's how life works, nobody can clean your public image except of yourself.
So, is keznit racist? Ofc he's not
Does he deserve to be cancelled? fuck no
Who can stop all this bullshit? him, and while he doesn't try to, BRs, naturally, will keep mad at him.

Anyway, I invite you all to try to understand both parts before judging in this type of situations, that could prevent most of the misunderstadings going around everywhere ;)

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asdfghjkl
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W KEZNIT NOT RACIST JUST TOXIC AND STILL YOUNG

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burritx
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That's a lotta words
Too bad I'm not readin' em

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IceFoxx00
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burritx [#3]

That's a lotta words
Too bad I'm not readin' em

You really should, he kinda have a point there

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HaSanity
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Can we move the fuck on, people still defending him it’s almost as if the accusers are right.

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RayzerGH
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I know how latam with Brazil can make peace. KRUxFuria (furia needs to win to make brazilians happy that they won against kru), dgzin resolves things with keznit in lan, and then fans will see that BR and Latam can be together again. Don't worry manito Kru is going to take an spot from these 2

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hiyo
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tl;dr: I dickride keznit and he's so vulnerable and young pls don't go after him >.<

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did keznit ever say he wasn't racist, or did he just listen to the accusations and say nothing?

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hiyo [#7]

tl;dr: I dickride keznit and he's so vulnerable and young pls don't go after him >.<

guys look at me in so funny with china flag and edge falir uWu >.< ara ara ^-^

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HaSanity [#5]

Can we move the fuck on, people still defending him it’s almost as if the accusers are right.

sure lets take this inside ^-^ :hot:

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asdfghjkl [#9]

guys look at me in so funny with china flag and edge falir uWu >.< ara ara ^-^

im literally chinese and i've been supporting zmjjkk since CBT Gaming last year but nt

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i think whatever any brazilian say will be answered with "you can't be sure" or "there is no real proof". i do have my beliefs about this (based on every evidence i saw and every witness i listened to all this time), but i also know this scenario isn't going to change, so i give up - unless keznit fucks up (again). and a twitlonger is indeed necessary, but that guy is just too proud and belittles a lot of BR pros to give that a shot ig.

but the other side of the coin is: tho keznit isn't explicitly (and publicly) racist, a lot of his fans are. you just need to go to BR orgs medias when KRÜ wins against a BR team and you'll see the amount of racist messages towards us

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asdfghjkl [#9]

guys look at me in so funny with china flag and edge falir uWu >.< ara ara ^-^

this ara ara broke me

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hiyo [#11]

im literally chinese and i've been supporting zmjjkk since CBT Gaming last year but nt

then why are you always sucking brazil so much weirdo

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hiyo
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asdfghjkl [#14]

then why are you always sucking brazil so much weirdo

i don't suck brazil

brazil sucks in valorant!!!!! ^_^

10/10 joke gib upvote

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I think you contradict yourself

you say he didn't have racist attitudes

but then he says that his attitudes (racist attitudes) were taken out of context

Did he or did he not have racist attitudes?

for me you almost admit that he had racist attitudes, but it's ok, after all they are out of context

I'm open to opinions from friends who speak Spanish, all this discussion has snowballed that only harms our region

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hiyo [#15]

i don't suck brazil

brazil sucks in valorant!!!!! ^_^

10/10 joke gib upvote

+1 i died of laughter

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zhardy [#16]

I think you contradict yourself

you say he didn't have racist attitudes

but then he says that his attitudes (racist attitudes) were taken out of context

Did he or did he not have racist attitudes?

for me you almost admit that he had racist attitudes, but it's ok, after all they are out of context

I'm open to opinions from friends who speak Spanish, all this discussion has snowballed that only harms our region

LOOOL hes saying his “racist attitudes” not racist attitudes

learn figurative language

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HaSanity
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DELUSIONAL_POTTER_FAN [#10]

sure lets take this inside ^-^ :hot:

🥵

#20
elayaCL
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In fact you have a point there, and i hope people would read this until the end (especially the end).

Sadly this kind of threads brings more people willing to discuss or argue, than people who actually try to take a positive insight about this kind of situations.

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if in the first problem in val he did a stream asking sorry if he sounded more lika monkey than dog it would never get this far.
but i forgive him (: i don't think he is a racist i think he is stupid enough to not solve and handle the situation in the best way possible.
but brazilian twitter will never forgive him we have a like a ton of sub celebrities who just live in twitter waiting to cancel someone...they do this with everyone, u can't say nothing that is against ''left-wing ideals'' because if u say u are fucked.

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i leaning towards agreeing with you. i was always on the "keznit is racist" train, but lately I've been reading well constructed arguments about him not being and I'm starting to believe. but all of it came from LATAM users, LATAM people on Twitter, never an official statement from him. now, our regions hate each other because for LATAM we are obvious crybabies, and for us, you guys are ok with racism. he should have addressed it in a serious way a long time ago, but he never did, just swore and fed thia stupid rivalry

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Shidoh [#12]

i think whatever any brazilian say will be answered with "you can't be sure" or "there is no real proof". i do have my beliefs about this (based on every evidence i saw and every witness i listened to all this time), but i also know this scenario isn't going to change, so i give up - unless keznit fucks up (again). and a twitlonger is indeed necessary, but that guy is just too proud and belittles a lot of BR pros to give that a shot ig.

but the other side of the coin is: tho keznit isn't explicitly (and publicly) racist, a lot of his fans are. you just need to go to BR orgs medias when KRÜ wins against a BR team and you'll see the amount of racist messages towards us

this is so true

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DiegoMocu
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Shidoh [#12]

i think whatever any brazilian say will be answered with "you can't be sure" or "there is no real proof". i do have my beliefs about this (based on every evidence i saw and every witness i listened to all this time), but i also know this scenario isn't going to change, so i give up - unless keznit fucks up (again). and a twitlonger is indeed necessary, but that guy is just too proud and belittles a lot of BR pros to give that a shot ig.

but the other side of the coin is: tho keznit isn't explicitly (and publicly) racist, a lot of his fans are. you just need to go to BR orgs medias when KRÜ wins against a BR team and you'll see the amount of racist messages towards us

the second point is sadly true, some latam ppl tend to be so xenophobic, not only against brazilians, but also between ourselves. Every time a BR spits some hate or criticism against our region and a LATAM user response with "cala boca CJ"... it's just so stupid to defend keznit and your region if you're gonna do that

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DiegoMocu
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zhardy [#16]

I think you contradict yourself

you say he didn't have racist attitudes

but then he says that his attitudes (racist attitudes) were taken out of context

Did he or did he not have racist attitudes?

for me you almost admit that he had racist attitudes, but it's ok, after all they are out of context

I'm open to opinions from friends who speak Spanish, all this discussion has snowballed that only harms our region

I honestly didn't understand where did you get confused. To be clear, I was talking about simple toxic attitudes getting out of context to be taken as racist attitudes

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DiegoMocu
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AladdinINSANE [#21]

if in the first problem in val he did a stream asking sorry if he sounded more lika monkey than dog it would never get this far.
but i forgive him (: i don't think he is a racist i think he is stupid enough to not solve and handle the situation in the best way possible.
but brazilian twitter will never forgive him we have a like a ton of sub celebrities who just live in twitter waiting to cancel someone...they do this with everyone, u can't say nothing that is against ''left-wing ideals'' because if u say u are fucked.

yep, getting it apart from politics (I wouldn't associate it with that) BR biggest influences on twitter are a bit... let's say I don't like them xD

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DiegoMocu
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makewar [#22]

i leaning towards agreeing with you. i was always on the "keznit is racist" train, but lately I've been reading well constructed arguments about him not being and I'm starting to believe. but all of it came from LATAM users, LATAM people on Twitter, never an official statement from him. now, our regions hate each other because for LATAM we are obvious crybabies, and for us, you guys are ok with racism. he should have addressed it in a serious way a long time ago, but he never did, just swore and fed thia stupid rivalry

exactly! in the end, both LATAM and BR scenes do have their own "influencers" who have never tried good enough to attach both regions again since keznit polemics, and keznit is one of the biggest influencers in the LATAM pro scene

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zhardy [#8]

did keznit ever say he wasn't racist, or did he just listen to the accusations and say nothing?

almost every time he was publicly accused, he started a personal discussion with the accuser and occasionally tweet something about it trying to defend himself in a very very poor way. The point is that we, as LATAM ppl, always understand what keznit tried to say, but because of the language/culture barriers, BRs don't always do (for example, the aspas "primate" thing)

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DiegoMocu [#26]

yep, getting it apart from politics (I wouldn't associate it with that) BR biggest influences on twitter are a bit... let's say I don't like them xD

i associate because not necessary because of politic itself but because these ''web-celebrities'' in brazil likes to think that they are solving the social issues through the internet. We call them ''justiceiros sociais'' somenthing like the ''social punishers'' most of them are trash ppl in real life...every now and then one is caught doing something that said to be againt.

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My 2 cents about it.

He had 3 controversials situations against brazilian comunity:

1 - Monkey Sounds
2 - Calls Aspas “Primate”
3 - Calls Dgzin “CJ”

Me, as a Black man and Brazilian will say what i think about it.

1 to me, he makes the “brazilian dog sound meme” to me its obvious, not racism

2 i dont buy the “thats how we call “cousins” here, but! I think he just call Aspas “stupid”. But, we brazilians knows “even here on VLr.gg we been called monkey in many ways.

3 to me, he was very stupid and even if he dont meaning, he made some racist act. I really think that he dont meaning, but thats dont mean that he didnt.

I'd rather call him a donkey who said racist things without thinking than a racist guy who sees no problem committing racism, in this forum, racism is committed every day in different ways and is much worse than what Keznit did.

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