china csgo scene is 10x bigger than val, but their csgo teams are so weak, got stomped in major everytime, sometimes can't even get into the major. what makes them look stronger in val? is the low skill celling?
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Elcatsu [#4]"china csgo scene is 10x bigger than val" dud the game is not released there yet lmao
I know, but this is true.
Valve don't even care about any circuit or any of that shit . The only thing they care about is New Cases . If they really cared they would've done what RIOT did in APAC as a whole . Also your "Major" only consists of EU and BR teams anyway . At this point the game is only popular there . Also valorant is not even out there yet so its not a comparison .
monitar [#5]I know, but this is true.
common sense. why would u like sushi if u haven't tasted it yet.
Ullyr [#9]Ppl don't understand that Asians just like and thrive in games with abilities. Also valorant is not cs. And it seem like all of the asian scenes are way more develop and into valorant than cs. Its really quite that simple. When u have investment snd growth in an esports scene u Perform better.
Not really everyone loved csgo in SEA before valorant . Its just that the pros who are now in VAL never got the proper circuit like in VAL / Chance to qualify at a higher stage . Valve only cared about EU at that time . Benkai for example was really good at cs. There were so many good thai/indo pros too. It was even popular a lot in India but then again lacked a proper circuit / route like val. SO when val released everyone switched.
Aladeenn [#11]I mean
China did qualify for Majors in CSGO
And PRX, Zeta have already proven you dont need to be T1 in CS to be T1 in ValorantDerke used to play T3 CS, now he's top 3 in valorant imo
tyloo were decent with bntet but they haven't become relevant
JiangLi [#10]Not really everyone loved csgo in SEA before valorant . Its just that the pros who are now in VAL never got the proper circuit like in VAL / Chance to qualify at a higher stage . Valve only cared about EU at that time . Benkai for example was really good at cs. There were so many good thai/indo pros too. It was even popular a lot in India but then again lacked a proper circuit / route like val. SO when val released everyone switched.
f0rsaken had a good rating during his time in cs, but never got to play internationally . exposure to international tournaments like what riot is doing will do wonders to a scene.
cyk [#7]I'm curious how do you conclude China csgo scene is 10x bigger than Val? when it has no more than 3 pro teams meanwhile Val got more than 8 at least
There are already more chinese teams in VAL rn and the game isnt even out yet . Never had this much in csgo . Also I see a bunch of indian Teams . Never saw them while i played csgo. RIOT just have a better structure for pros.
JokesOver [#14]f0rsaken had a good rating during his time in cs, but never got to play internationally . exposure to international tournaments like what riot is doing will do wonders to a scene.
what do you mean? he won ESEA https://www.hltv.org/matches/2313623/aerowolf-vs-mineski-esea-open-season-25-asia-pacific
definitioNvlrt [#19]what do you mean? he won ESEA https://www.hltv.org/matches/2313623/aerowolf-vs-mineski-esea-open-season-25-asia-pacific
Did he play outside asia?
definitioNvlrt [#19]what do you mean? he won ESEA https://www.hltv.org/matches/2313623/aerowolf-vs-mineski-esea-open-season-25-asia-pacific
Its a indonesia vs Phillipines game. Technically it is an international game but its from the same region.
cyk [#7]I'm curious how do you conclude China csgo scene is 10x bigger than Val? when it has no more than 3 pro teams meanwhile Val got more than 8 at least
douyutv, the biggest stream site in china, right at this point the comparison between cs and val:
check out https://www.douyu.com/directory?customClassId=3&shortName=PCgame
diediedie [#24]douyutv, the biggest stream site in china, right at this point the comparison between cs and val:
check out https://www.douyu.com/directory?customClassId=3&shortName=PCgame
nice try
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diediedie [#24]douyutv, the biggest stream site in china, right at this point the comparison between cs and val:
check out https://www.douyu.com/directory?customClassId=3&shortName=PCgame
If he says playerbase is 10x than Val, I would agree.
But player base is not equal to the pro scene, they are related but still different . CN Cs pro scene is half dead now, no org wants to pay those match-fixer
btw the stats provided by Chinese stream site is not reliable, they don't reveal the real viewership
definitioNvlrt [#19]what do you mean? he won ESEA https://www.hltv.org/matches/2313623/aerowolf-vs-mineski-esea-open-season-25-asia-pacific
damn throwback when Indonesia dominated the scene with Recca and aerowolf
virtz [#17]Wait is China CSGO bigger than China Crossfire now?
definitely not, crossfire has always dominate asia and china in particular.
Astar [#27]damn throwback when Indonesia dominated the scene with Recca and aerowolf
I miss them a lot and the csgo days as well. But right now what we have is definitely better than before .
Zephyros [#32]Wait ik i late to this but if valorant isn't released in china yet how do they have Pro teams
play on hk server
virtz [#17]Wait is China CSGO bigger than China Crossfire now?
Playerbase maybe CF still higher, when they do hit 1M+ in concurrent while CS if you based on three PW servers the recent peak was 177k in december 2020
China scene only also CF. Well CN CF is a Franchise league with $1.5M Entry Fee that bundles a Mobile league and HD league spot together for 1-time buy, that would say a lot
Streaming wise CS has surpass CF
Its a sensible reason for CNVAL that they would be compared by CN netizens with CF instead of CS
much like how in Korea it was Sudden Attack.
So those two has its own lead
CF for being 15 years old, but loses on Streaming and International Comp
CS for more preferred on streaming and International Comp, but loses out on Domestic Comp in China
number1_MIBR_hater [#36]but even Tyloo could beat MIBR hahaaha what a bunch of shitty heads
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cyk [#26]If he says playerbase is 10x than Val, I would agree.
But player base is not equal to the pro scene, they are related but still different . CN Cs pro scene is half dead now, no org wants to pay those match-fixerbtw the stats provided by Chinese stream site is not reliable, they don't reveal the real viewership
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