Vitality has no chance in winning any games in T1 if they do not drop H1ber. Their only saviour is cender hard carrying on chamber and with chamber nerfs, they need a much stronger duelist. H1ber ain't it and he has been given way too many chances, be it they win vs FUT or not.
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moatz [#3]Yea. Hopefully they buy out cNED
if they get franchised, that would be a great option. Without a doubt better than H1ber. At this moment, they look like the 100T of EMEA, but the Vitality fans are more or less reasonable so they understand.
EternalXera [#7]Are there any good f/a duelists rn? But tbh with an org as big as VIT a buyout is very possible
Franchising unfortunately a lot of top tier duelists will be f/a. Imo some good duelists could be jugii, twistenn, doma
I like H1ber obviously, but I was just thinking this same yesterday. I think he is just really inconsistent and isn't that starplayer who will put up good numbers consistently. I feel like experienced team like this could really make good star duelist work and H1ber isn't that atm. Its easier to say than do tho and finding replacement is quite hard. But yeah I think they need replacement if they want to compete in tier 1 IMO.
this is just amateur viewer's take
EternalXera [#7]Are there any good f/a duelists rn? But tbh with an org as big as VIT a buyout is very possible
I am sure players like cned, Jugi, (maybe twisten) are gonna be free. There are also so much talent in EMEA, esp in the turkish scene. Players like vOokashu are still stuck in their tier 2 teams. There will be soo many options during franchising.
patuj [#10]I like H1ber obviously, but I was just thinking this same yesterday. I think he is just really inconsistent and isn't that starplayer who will put up good numbers consistently. I feel like experienced team like this could really make good star duelist work and H1ber isn't that atm. Its easier to say than do tho and finding replacement is quite hard. But yeah I think they need replacement if they want to compete in tier 1 IMO.
this is just amateur viewer's take
as someone mentioned I hope Vitality tries to go for someone like Twisten. Knowing that BIG were fine selling him to Guild (if I understood correctly) so rich team like Vitality could really well try to buy him as long as he isn't too expensive. Jugi is good option as well, but he isn't as proven in tier 1 either I feel like.
patuj [#10]I like H1ber obviously, but I was just thinking this same yesterday. I think he is just really inconsistent and isn't that starplayer who will put up good numbers consistently. I feel like experienced team like this could really make good star duelist work and H1ber isn't that atm. Its easier to say than do tho and finding replacement is quite hard. But yeah I think they need replacement if they want to compete in tier 1 IMO.
this is just amateur viewer's take
No, I am quite surprised a lot of people also think the same. It has been very apparent as well. Also with an IGL like Bonecold (i suppose he is the IGL), they are quite thriving. They also have excellent support. BaddyG and Cender are crazy. That's already three insane players, for a core, so they have a lot of potential for T1.
patuj [#12]as someone mentioned I hope Vitality tries to go for someone like Twisten. Knowing that BIG were fine selling him to Guild (if I understood correctly) so rich team like Vitality could really well try to buy him as long as he isn't too expensive. Jugi is good option as well, but he isn't as proven in tier 1 either I feel like.
Jugi is a bit inconsistent as well. He was clearly diffed by the likes of cned, starxo, ardiis and even zyppan. He was still really good, but there are people better than him imo.
BoF7ooM [#13]No, I am quite surprised a lot of people also think the same. It has been very apparent as well. Also with an IGL like Bonecold (i suppose he is the IGL), they are quite thriving. They also have excellent support. BaddyG and Cender are crazy. That's already three insane players, for a core, so they have a lot of potential for T1.
yeah definitely I've just been feeling that they are missing that final piece and out of the players it has to be replacement for either H1ber or natank and H1ber is more replaceable IMO. They just need that star impact if that makes sense.
patuj [#15]yeah definitely I've just been feeling that they are missing that final piece and out of the players it has to be replacement for either H1ber or natank and H1ber is more replaceable IMO. They just need that star impact if that makes sense.
Natank has been having his moments more and more this season. Hiber on the other hand seems to be a liability. Hiber needs to go
EternalXera [#7]Are there any good f/a duelists rn? But tbh with an org as big as VIT a buyout is very possible
Miniboo?
YvngKurry [#16]Natank has been having his moments more and more this season. Hiber on the other hand seems to be a liability. Hiber needs to go
I'm not saying natank is bad and I agree that he has looked better and better, but I think both H1ber and natank are replaceable on this team and I think you could find better options if you truly want to build tier 1 contender team. While BONECOLD, baddyG and Cender are great picks already.
patuj [#22]I'm not saying natank is bad and I agree that he has looked better and better, but I think both H1ber and natank are replaceable on this team and I think you could find better options if you truly want to build tier 1 contender team. While BONECOLD, baddyG and Cender are great picks already.
Oh yea I 100% agree with that. Overall they have the most replaceable roles
YvngKurry [#8]Franchising unfortunately a lot of top tier duelists will be f/a. Imo some good duelists could be jugii, twistenn, doma
doma is not in the same tier as jugi and twisten imo
Matrix13e [#19]hes so good lmao how is he not on a tier 1 team lol
he will, once vitality made it into franchise they will kicked h1ber and turned into tier 1 team.
deadSQUAD [#27]agree. there are many better duelist that won't make it into franchise league like cned, jugi, zeek or upcoming talent like deepmans and kamo
Lol kamo are you serious?? You really think any team gonna sign a blatant racist and homophobic like him. Impossible.
deadSQUAD [#27]agree. there are many better duelist that won't make it into franchise league like cned, jugi, zeek or upcoming talent like deepmans and kamo
I wouldn't be so concerned about them, there is going to be one massive roster shuffle once all the franchised teams are confirmed.
Most of the players on the franchised teams are not going to make it either
BoF7ooM [#28]Lol kamo are you serious?? You really think any team gonna sign a blatant racist and homophobic like him. Impossible.
im talking about their skills here and kamo is a decent player in tier 2 scene, their attitude is another thing.
Glycoroldas [#29]I wouldn't be so concerned about them, there is going to be one massive roster shuffle once all the franchised teams are confirmed.
Most of the players on the franchised teams are not going to make it either
yes bro, all franchised teams definitely will rebuild their team since many talented players will be sold or released by their orgs.
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