DWG vs NTH? Battle of the favourites gonna be nice.
2-1 DWG in a close series
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CR
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1
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3 (1)
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0 (0)
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7 (4)
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18 (8)
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NTH
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1
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3 (1)
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1 (0)
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4 (2)
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20 (12)
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2
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3
0.6k
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15.9k
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4
7.0k
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5
16.9k
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3.4k
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6
8.1k
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15.9k
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7
4.3k
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16.7k
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8
5.7k
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9
11.0k
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13.0k
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10
2.2k
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19.5k
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11
8.1k
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19.2k
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12
1.5k
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10.2k
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9.0k
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24
9.1k
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1.3k
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CR
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2
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2 (2)
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2 (1)
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5 (3)
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14 (7)
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NTH
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0
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3 (0)
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3 (1)
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1 (1)
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16 (8)
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CR
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0.4k
0.4k
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2
3.7k
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14.7k
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23.5k
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34.8k
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11
9.9k
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12
11.0k
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14
1.3k
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7.5k
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15
12.6k
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5.1k
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5.0k
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2.3k
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5.3k
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CR
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0
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4 (1)
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1 (0)
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2 (0)
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11 (4)
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NTH
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2
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2 (2)
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1 (0)
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5 (1)
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10 (10)
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CR
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1
0.4k
0.3k
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2
7.4k
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1.7k
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4.7k
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8.3k
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10.2k
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3.8k
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Pistol Won | Eco (won) | $ (won) | $$ (won) | $$$ (won) | |
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CR
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3
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9 (4)
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3 (1)
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14 (7)
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43 (19)
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NTH
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3
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8 (3)
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5 (1)
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10 (4)
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46 (30)
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KoreanOverlord [#12]NTH 2-0 CR
It's same two rosters from last time so no change
crazy how both rosters would beat dwg LOL
CR 2-1 NTH
I do feel like the bad audio at SSA gave NTH the upper hand. Due to not having great comms to begin with, they weren't that affected by not being able to hear each other. Historically CR have consistently beaten NTH outside of LAN, but NTH now has international experience. It'll be a close series and can see it being 2-1 in either direction really.
Corregidor [#22]CR 2-1 NTH
I do feel like the bad audio at SSA gave NTH the upper hand. Due to not having great comms to begin with, they weren't that affected by not being able to hear each other. Historically CR have consistently beaten NTH outside of LAN, but NTH now has international experience. It'll be a close series and can see it being 2-1 in either direction really.
"CR have consistently beaten NTH outside of LAN"
Yeah, both results after munchkin left CR are Nth 2-1 CR. How delusional can you be?
mesayaloneramp [#26]"CR have consistently beaten NTH outside of LAN"
Yeah, both results after munchkin left CR are Nth 2-1 CR. How delusional can you be?
No need to be hostile. Like I said, I feel like NTH benefitted from the bad audio during the LAN. If you give that argument any weight than the true record is 1-1, but with a long history of CR beating NTH before that.
I also gave credit to NTH for being able to pick up international experience and that giving them alot of improvement. I also said that I could see the series going 2-1 in either direction, but as my flair suggests I have a slight CR bias so I give it to them. So I don't think it's delusional.
Corregidor [#28]No need to be hostile. Like I said, I feel like NTH benefitted from the bad audio during the LAN. If you give that argument any weight than the true record is 1-1, but with a long history of CR beating NTH before that.
I also gave credit to NTH for being able to pick up international experience and that giving them alot of improvement. I also said that I could see the series going 2-1 in either direction, but as my flair suggests I have a slight CR bias so I give it to them. So I don't think it's delusional.
Okay. First of all, CR has been losing to Nth 3 series in a row in the Stage 3 as you might know. But only the last match (Stage 3 playoffs lower final) was held in SSA, and other 2 matches were held ONLINE, not on LAN. This means your argument that CR have consistently beaten Nth outside of LAN is completely wrong. Btw im not gonna deny the audio issues affected the performance of CR side on the match at SSA, but I have to emphasise again that the other 2 matches where Nth won against CR were held online.
Second, it's true that CR were consistently beating Nth until the stage 1, but that really does mean nothing now because the roster of Nth was completely different last year (even a single player/coach isn't remaining now). CR still won once after the complete roster change of Nth, but after that Munchkin left CR and from then CR has not won a single series against Nth, simply because they lost their star player. Hopefully you learn much more about JP scene.
Ullyr [#34]EDG actually gonna win LCQ easy lol
EDG has had the easier side of the bracket though. Maru and ONS are awful and RC are the worst JP team.
Sprouts [#37]EDG has had the easier side of the bracket though. Maru and ONS are awful and RC are the worst JP team.
so what nth clown on Kone which have always been in the shadows of EDG and not putting up close games against CR which Damwon almost beat, and Kone 2 0 Damwon. EDG just gonna win it easy.
Okayyyyyy [#40]Spare me man, I've gone through enough pain already😔
It’s okay man, just funny to see how wrong all of us were
Corregidor [#22]CR 2-1 NTH
I do feel like the bad audio at SSA gave NTH the upper hand. Due to not having great comms to begin with, they weren't that affected by not being able to hear each other. Historically CR have consistently beaten NTH outside of LAN, but NTH now has international experience. It'll be a close series and can see it being 2-1 in either direction really.
ZETA's coach also said the same thing about this but let's just watch and see the result! I actually feel sad that only one of this team can go to the Championship.
Domination [#43]CR is doing pretty good against NTH, they are underrated and not as bad as many people say
I feel like most people are starting to underestimate them since Munchkin left CR. Yes, they're not weak but not that strong either right now. If CR can beat NTH with this new roster, it will be one of a big achievement for them because they haven't managed to defeat them with this roster. I'm not saying that rion is weak or something, it's just Meteor is so strong and they together need to do something about this.
KlobotXXL [#49]nth gonna lose if they perform like this vs edg tomorrow
maybe cr will triumph and battle edg
Ullyr [#39]so what nth clown on Kone which have always been in the shadows of EDG and not putting up close games against CR which Damwon almost beat, and Kone 2 0 Damwon. EDG just gonna win it easy.
the more leaps in transitive property you do to compare teams the less meaningful it makes the assessment
mesayaloneramp [#32]Okay. First of all, CR has been losing to Nth 3 series in a row in the Stage 3 as you might know. But only the last match (Stage 3 playoffs lower final) was held in SSA, and other 2 matches were held ONLINE, not on LAN. This means your argument that CR have consistently beaten Nth outside of LAN is completely wrong. Btw im not gonna deny the audio issues affected the performance of CR side on the match at SSA, but I have to emphasise again that the other 2 matches where Nth won against CR were held online.
Second, it's true that CR were consistently beating Nth until the stage 1, but that really does mean nothing now because the roster of Nth was completely different last year (even a single player/coach isn't remaining now). CR still won once after the complete roster change of Nth, but after that Munchkin left CR and from then CR has not won a single series against Nth, simply because they lost their star player. Hopefully you learn much more about JP scene.
Lol it's funny how you always have to be hostile in some form, so passive aggressive man. I watch the Japanese scene exclusively for 2 years. And turns out I was right, 2-1 in a close series, just wish it went the other way lol.
I'm glad that NTH seems to have improved from their international experience. They're executes are much cleaner than when they only had JP experience. I'm also glad that even with that experience, CR have shown improvement as well, I feel like they're gelling a bit better. They still have a good deal to go before being able to compete with Zeta I feel like, but I think they stand well within reach for the top.
Personally, as a long time fan of the Japanese scene, I'm just happy that Japan is growing at such a stellar rate. I think that's something that both of us can agree on, don't you think? :)
shellyy [#42]ZETA's coach also said the same thing about this but let's just watch and see the result! I actually feel sad that only one of this team can go to the Championship.
Yeah I heard about EggsQQ saying that about Saitama! After watching how close this series was I'm just glad that it seems that Japan as a whole region has really grown so much.
I've watched it grow from the beginning when the casters were sat in front of just a green screen and a questionable desk lol. To now Japan being able to make it to top 3 at internationals. It's been a great journey so far :)
Corregidor [#62]Lol it's funny how you always have to be hostile in some form, so passive aggressive man. I watch the Japanese scene exclusively for 2 years. And turns out I was right, 2-1 in a close series, just wish it went the other way lol.
I'm glad that NTH seems to have improved from their international experience. They're executes are much cleaner than when they only had JP experience. I'm also glad that even with that experience, CR have shown improvement as well, I feel like they're gelling a bit better. They still have a good deal to go before being able to compete with Zeta I feel like, but I think they stand well within reach for the top.
Personally, as a long time fan of the Japanese scene, I'm just happy that Japan is growing at such a stellar rate. I think that's something that both of us can agree on, don't you think? :)
I do think so too. I never meant to be hostile, I just tried to correct ur misunderstandings about the recent results between the two teams. Btw I gotta admit it went a good game
defaultskinsenjoyer [#59]I know everyone on vlr busy changing their flag to China and making EDG copypasta but this match was really interesting for Japanese
CR finally switched to better chamber comps for this 5th-ish rematch in this year and Nth still adapted
nah bruv i watched through all of it shit was mad probably ine of the best matches apart from edg and kone ones