why in the fck sa has 2 lcq. is riot blind thhat they cant see from the last masters that all 3 representatives of emea are in the top 8 while this fluke loud team (best br team btw lol) got eliminated immediately
yea thank you riot, cant fcking wait to see again these weak af sa teams get eliminated immediately
cloudmoney [#5]yea and? compare it to emea with the whole eu plus russia
It's the same as last year, only now instead of 2 direct slots for Brazil they only get one and the other was added to the LCQ
Nollihd [#4]Latam gonna get both the slots tho
just give them 1 slot for kru then fck the others. cant even remember what furia & vivo keyd done from the tournaments theyve qualified besides the heat guy
Mkin11 [#7]It's the same as last year, only now instead of 2 direct slots for Brazil they only get one and the other was added to the LCQ
yea unfortunately. hope nxt year riot finally realize that its a waste to give this region a lot of slots. surely they wont do this again for the 3rd time.
cloudmoney [#9]yea unfortunately. hope nxt year riot finally realize that its a waste to give this region a lot of slots. surely they wont do this again for the 3rd time.
You really are clueless
Mkin11 [#10]You really are clueless
clueless to what. yea i know there be franchhising and shit and they will merge na and sa. its good i guess so there will be less br teams. Also man im not against latam im more against bronzil. i only want kru to qualify on the sa lcq then thats enough, just dont want to see these boring br teams like vivo keyd, furia
Fr1tZ [#12]its actually only 1 another slot for SA. masters has 1 BR, 1 LATAM, and 1 BR/LATAM. they only add 1 more to BR/LATAM. like other region, add 1 more to NA, 1 more to EMEA, 1 more to APAC, 1 more to EA
thats why im confused. why would they add another slot to this region, all of their representatives always get last place last year besides kru. if im riot i wont only not add another slot but also take away 1 slot to give to other far more deserving region like emea
burritx [#14]Daily reminder that riot doesn't change slots mid season
Emea could literally had won both masters and they would still have one slot
Keep coping bozo
yea i know. cant wait to watch these weakass bronzil teams to place last again this champions lol.
cloudmoney [#15]thats why im confused. why would they add another slot to this region, all of their representatives always get last place last year besides kru. if im riot i wont only not add another slot but also take away 1 slot to give to other far more deserving region like emea
They didnt add anything wtf
Enzolp [#18]And asia is getting 6 slots right? LATAM and BR are different regions (México is in NA), just because riot for whatever reason wanted to do a region vs region LCQ does not mean they're the same
yea and theres like more than 10 countries in that region. 4 slots to not even 5 countries in a region? what a joke when theres emea with whole europe and russia which have the top caliber teams who are far more deserving of the slots. who the fk would prefer to watch vivo keyd/ furia than liquid/ acend/guild? only those braindead bronzil fans
cloudmoney [#19]yea and theres like more than 10 countries in that region. 4 slots to not even 5 countries in a region? what a joke when theres emea with whole europe and russia which have the top caliber teams who are far more deserving of the slots. who the fk would prefer to watch vivo keyd/ furia than liquid/ acend/guild? only those braindead bronzil fans
Albanian education kekw
Enzolp [#22]Not even funny this bait wtf
lmao whos baiting bro. dud im just really mad against these br teams coz they cant compete againtt the others, im good with latam. these br teams have their chance last year to prove theyre not weak coz they also have the most slots with 4 i think last champions which is ridiculuos but in the end they still place last lol. cant believe i get to see this bullshhit happen again
Enzolp [#20]Albanian education kekw
also dud i just realized why u said that. what i mean with not even 5 countries, are the countries playng in the lcq not thhe actual number of countries in latam region lmaooo. only brazil, colombia, argentina and chile right? if u exclude mexico coz u said theyre included in na
Enzolp [#22]Not even funny this bait wtf
don't even waste your time brother. Some people here have 0 self awareness. His nickname + stars check out
deadpark [#26]don't even waste your time brother. Some people here have 0 self awareness. His nickname + stars check out
ok loud fan XD
MourninggStarr [#28]would rather have an extra slot for NA right
nah only optic is good there. see what the guard and xset did, also got eliminated immediately. best is to give it to emea, lots of top teams there battling for only one slot: liquid, guild, m3c, acend.
VAL_OMEGALUL_RANT [#11]SA is the region with most slots in this Champions, ridiculous
SA isn't a region.
Ernno [#30]SA isn't a region.
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cloudmoney [#15]thats why im confused. why would they add another slot to this region, all of their representatives always get last place last year besides kru. if im riot i wont only not add another slot but also take away 1 slot to give to other far more deserving region like emea
umm bro loud were 2nd in masters reykjavik
Everyone seems to be disagreeing with this but I kinda don't get that
Yes, BR and LATAM are 2 different regions, and this is with very good reason as Brazil is in fact different from the rest of Latin America in a variety of ways, no disagreement, hence both of them do definitely deserve 1 guaranteed spot
But why are TWO LCQ spots for the region combined? East Asia for example only gets 1, and as far as I'm aware (If anyone has actual semi-up-to-date stats for this let me know please, would appreciate it) the player bases in JP and KR are surprisingly comparable, while I have no clue for CN.
I would also argue that KR and JP have been a lot more successful internationally
Latam + BR combined encompass around 560 million people, which is like 35-40% higher than NA (I am counting Mexico as part of Latam) so from that perspective, I can't say i understand them sharing 4 slots either, EMEA, for example, encompasses well over 1 billion.
Now based off everything I've said you might think i have an actual point for some other region getting it but no, I just think whoever wins masters 2 should get a slot at champions separately, like last year
And I've been saying this since before Copenhagen started, so no that's not an opinion I have purely because FPX won
if anyone wants to offer a different argument feel free
VAL_OMEGALUL_RANT [#31]region
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Then Asia is the "region" with most slots in Champions, 6.
rtg9000 [#35]Everyone seems to be disagreeing with this but I kinda don't get that
Yes, BR and LATAM are 2 different regions, and this is with very good reason as Brazil is in fact different from the rest of Latin America in a variety of ways, no disagreement, hence both of them do definitely deserve 1 guaranteed spot
But why are TWO LCQ spots for the region combined? East Asia for example only gets 1, and as far as I'm aware (If anyone has actual semi-up-to-date stats for this let me know please, would appreciate it) the player bases in JP and KR are surprisingly comparable, while I have no clue for CN.
I would also argue that KR and JP have been a lot more successful internationallyLatam + BR combined encompass around 560 million people, which is like 35-40% higher than NA (I am counting Mexico as part of Latam) so from that perspective, I can't say i understand them sharing 4 slots either, EMEA, for example, encompasses well over 1 billion.
Now based off everything I've said you might think i have an actual point for some other region getting it but no, I just think whoever wins masters 2 should get a slot at champions separately, like last year
And I've been saying this since before Copenhagen started, so no that's not an opinion I have purely because FPX won
if anyone wants to offer a different argument feel free
Because that second LCQ spot last year was a direct one for BR. When deciding about this year's circuit Riot decided to reward Latam's performance throughout the year with transforming that direct slot into an LCQ. It is actually APAC that gained a new slot not South America.
cloudmoney [#13]clueless to what. yea i know there be franchhising and shit and they will merge na and sa. its good i guess so there will be less br teams. Also man im not against latam im more against bronzil. i only want kru to qualify on the sa lcq then thats enough, just dont want to see these boring br teams like vivo keyd, furia
Stop being dumb
Next year will be Americas vct asshol
Mkin11 [#37]Because that second LCQ spot last year was a direct one for BR. When deciding about this year's circuit Riot decided to reward Latam's performance throughout the year with transforming that direct slot into an LCQ. It is actually APAC that gained a new slot not South America.
that's pretty fair
i mean i can't say i really mind this happening i just think 3 SA slots + 1 masters 2 slot would make for a more entertaining tourney, probably won't really prevent a potential winner coming either way
rtg9000 [#35]Everyone seems to be disagreeing with this but I kinda don't get that
Yes, BR and LATAM are 2 different regions, and this is with very good reason as Brazil is in fact different from the rest of Latin America in a variety of ways, no disagreement, hence both of them do definitely deserve 1 guaranteed spot
But why are TWO LCQ spots for the region combined? East Asia for example only gets 1, and as far as I'm aware (If anyone has actual semi-up-to-date stats for this let me know please, would appreciate it) the player bases in JP and KR are surprisingly comparable, while I have no clue for CN.
I would also argue that KR and JP have been a lot more successful internationallyLatam + BR combined encompass around 560 million people, which is like 35-40% higher than NA (I am counting Mexico as part of Latam) so from that perspective, I can't say i understand them sharing 4 slots either, EMEA, for example, encompasses well over 1 billion.
Now based off everything I've said you might think i have an actual point for some other region getting it but no, I just think whoever wins masters 2 should get a slot at champions separately, like last year
And I've been saying this since before Copenhagen started, so no that's not an opinion I have purely because FPX won
if anyone wants to offer a different argument feel free
i dont give a fk about eachh region's population. i just dont get why br+latam has to get the most slots in the region when their representatives since last year were usually has the worst performances (only latam is carrying, loud run is a fluke). i can only see kru the deserving team from their lcq and then what, another slot for another br team like vivo keyd/ furia to get last again lol.
Also, another reason why im mad coz i also watch dota2 esports and there if they see a region that is not competitive enough, they usually take slot from them and give it to others like what they did to NA (north america) and SA (south america) having the least slot of only 2 while china despite only being a country has same number of slots like Eu with 4 slots each.
thats why i dont give a fk about audiences/ population, im more into the region's worthiness of the slot
cloudmoney [#41]i dont give a fk about eachh region's population. i just dont get why br+latam has to get the most slots in the region when their representatives since last year were usually has the worst performances (only latam is carrying, loud run is a fluke). i can only see kru the deserving team from their lcq and then what, another slot for another br team like vivo keyd/ furia to get last again lol.
Also, another reason why im mad coz i also watch dota2 esports and there if they see a region that is not competitive enough, they usually take slot from them and give it to others like what they did to NA (north america) and SA (south america) having the least slot of only 2 while china despite only being a country has same number of slots like Eu with 4 slots each.
thats why i dont give a fk about audiences/ population, im more into the region's worthiness of the slot
meh from a purely competitive standpoint maybe thats fair
but from ritos perspective they have to consider potential viewership, marketing potential and representation for the playerbase
Ernno [#36]Then Asia is the "region" with most slots in Champions, 6.
bro 'Asia' is literally half of the world if ur trying to say Asia having 6 than all of the western countries should also only have 6 in total smh
rtg9000 [#42]meh from a purely competitive standpoint maybe thats fair
but from ritos perspective they have to consider potential viewership, marketing potential and representation for the playerbase
if we exclude the competitive aspect and lean more into that viewership/ audience, i still believe 3 slots for br+latam is enough for champions. having the most amount of slots with 4 is still bullshit to me. even if u say its 2 region combined, mothafucka the other one is not even a region its just a country. so EMEA makes much more sense if we take into consideration both the competitive and viewership aspect
cloudmoney [#29]nah only optic is good there. see what the guard and xset did, also got eliminated immediately. best is to give it to emea, lots of top teams there battling for only one slot: liquid, guild, m3c, acend.
true i completely agree EU should get more slots look the level of competition for 1 slot its just sad only one team will make it
In the last Champions there were 2 spots for Brazil.
And we still took the last spot for the LCQ that gave us 3 slots. Vivo Keyd, FURIA and Vikings.
Riot took one of our slots and put it to LCQ, for LATAM to have more chances of taking more than 1 team to the Champions. Because until the moment of this exchange, only KRU had international relevance.
Riot's intention was never to give supremacy to a particular region, no matter how many victories it has. The intention is to have the best teams from each region, not just the highest quality teams from anywhere.
EMEA already has 3 spots, it doesn't make sense for the league's purpose to have one more.
BR and LATAM, even though they haven't won any internationals, played good games and have already won some of the best teams in EMEA and NA. So they deserve 2 spots each, a last chance before the franchises because of this history seems fair to me.
Ryuji [#45]true i completely agree EU should get more slots look the level of competition for 1 slot its just sad only one team will make it
Agreed. Their level of competition is the highest of any region so far which makes me confused as to why SA was given 2. I just hope KRU takes the 1st LCQ spot and then I personally don't care who takes the 2nd for SA.
sirenseath [#43]bro 'Asia' is literally half of the world if ur trying to say Asia having 6 than all of the western countries should also only have 6 in total smh
Half? I think you're forgetting bophades.
cloudmoney [#23]lmao whos baiting bro. dud im just really mad against these br teams coz they cant compete againtt the others, im good with latam. these br teams have their chance last year to prove theyre not weak coz they also have the most slots with 4 i think last champions which is ridiculuos but in the end they still place last lol. cant believe i get to see this bullshhit happen again
bro... BR had 2 slot, LATAM 1 slot and the other one was LATAM/BR slot, but Australs couldn't win the LCQ against FURIA and that's why we had 3 slots at champions
The only thing that was changed is that the 2nd slot directly to BR was given to LCQ
uentzoul [#46]In the last Champions there were 2 spots for Brazil.
And we still took the last spot for the LCQ that gave us 3 slots. Vivo Keyd, FURIA and Vikings.
Riot took one of our slots and put it to LCQ, for LATAM to have more chances of taking more than 1 team to the Champions. Because until the moment of this exchange, only KRU had international relevance.Riot's intention was never to give supremacy to a particular region, no matter how many victories it has. The intention is to have the best teams from each region, not just the highest quality teams from anywhere.
EMEA already has 3 spots, it doesn't make sense for the league's purpose to have one more.
BR and LATAM, even though they haven't won any internationals, played good games and have already won some of the best teams in EMEA and NA. So they deserve 2 spots each, a last chance before the franchises because of this history seems fair to me.
So they deserve 2 spots each
you mean 1 slot each, like riot is doing now, right?
It's because last champions EMEA had 4 teams that literally took a huge fucking shit on every other region. The competition became EMEA challengers. All riot can do is nerf EMEA to balance out us destroying teams with our superior genetics.
Jokes aside. Riot is garbage and they're killing the game in Europe (playerbase decrease over one year) by always shunning away their best region even though it prosoers the most.
hekzy [#52]It's because last champions EMEA had 4 teams that literally took a huge fucking shit on every other region. The competition became EMEA challengers. All riot can do is nerf EMEA to balance out us destroying teams with our superior genetics.
Jokes aside. Riot is garbage and they're killing the game in Europe (playerbase decrease over one year) by always shunning away their best region even though it prosoers the most.
Typical delusional SHITMEA take
The sarcastic point might make more sense than your actual one
NA is the strongest region, and EMEA is playing the game wrong, just wait for other team to try to win and then rat corners for free kills to make up for getting skill differ. No one wants to watch snoozefest SHITMEA teams at lan + they already have too many slots for being carried by CIS + cope harder
babysasuke [#53]Typical delusional SHITMEA take
The sarcastic point might make more sense than your actual one
NA is the strongest region, and EMEA is playing the game wrong, just wait for other team to try to win and then rat corners for free kills to make up for getting skill differ. No one wants to watch snoozefest SHITMEA teams at lan + they already have too many slots for being carried by CIS + cope harder
My man you're silver. Stfu. Silver NA = unranked never played fps in your life, never even touched a mouse before, 4 year old disabled toddler in EU
hekzy [#53]My man you're silver. Stfu. Silver NA = unranked never played fps in your life, never even touched a mouse before, 4 year old disabled toddler in EU
Actually bronze 2 but would still put odds on my 5stack over Lnatic EMEA dogshit 👍
Mkin11 [#37]Because that second LCQ spot last year was a direct one for BR. When deciding about this year's circuit Riot decided to reward Latam's performance throughout the year with transforming that direct slot into an LCQ. It is actually APAC that gained a new slot not South America.
Mkin11 said it best. A direct BR slot into a LATAM vs BR slot. KRU performance, and Australs(top2 LCQ last year, now top 6 at last event) at that moment, were at the top of the region as a whole. So latam got rewarded, and BR given an opportunity to change our rivalry, after last year LATAM dominance.
Mkin11 [#7]It's the same as last year, only now instead of 2 direct slots for Brazil they only get one and the other was added to the LCQ
yeah but EMEA has 3 instead of 4 now
PrTsty [#55]yeah but EMEA has 3 instead of 4 now
that was M3 slot which EMEA won, that slot went to APAC this year.
Mkin11 [#57]that was M3 slot which EMEA won, that slot went to APAC this year.
yeah but back then we didnt know who the best region was, after champions we definetly knew, they shouldver done the same thing for this season, wouldve made the finals more interesting
EMEA teams are boring to watch anyway and BR is it's own region and LATAM is too. The fact that they're merging doesn't mean that there's more slots it means that there are two slots for two regions playing in one tournament. It's like if EMEA and NA had one tournament there'd instead be two slots not just one.
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