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#1
Mrityunjay

WOULD GUILD FNC AND LEV PLACED HIGHER THAN OPTIC IF THE FORMAT WAS A LIL BETTER
I JUST FEEL EXCEPT THE TOP 2 I DONT THINK ANY PLACEMENT WAS FAIR
HOPE THE CHAMPS FORMAT IS GOOD AND NOT SOME SHITTY ONE IN WHICH EMEA ELIMINATES EMEA IN LIKE THE FIRST LB

#2
TuNyyy
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you have to win no matter the format, stop with the excuses

#3
amyayayy
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i think optic wouldve defeated fnatic with how they looked against lev alone, i think my rankings are

#4
amyayayy
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TuNyyy [#2]

you have to win no matter the format, stop with the excuses

champions format was bad coz every team had only one chance in knockouts and it was a bad measure of skill, this format shows fpx went through everything possible to win this and they deserved it

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YvngKurry
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copium lol. wtf are these stupid ass excuses

#6
dapada
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amyayayy [#3]

i think optic wouldve defeated fnatic with how they looked against lev alone, i think my rankings are

no, there's a reason why they were down 1-10 against EMEA teams
same thing applies to PRX against DRX

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dapada [#6]

no, there's a reason why they were down 1-10 against EMEA teams
same thing applies to PRX against DRX

or maybe the teams theyve lost to outside of guild were actually better than them at that time???? wtf is this reasoning.

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amyayayy
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dapada [#6]

no, there's a reason why they were down 1-10 against EMEA teams
same thing applies to PRX against DRX

no going curse wise sure, but i dont see a world where optic wouldve lost to fnatic, it wouldve been close sure coz even optic was playing dog but idk what happened to fnatic, maybe being the favorites leads to heavy antistratting after all

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YvngKurry [#7]

or maybe the teams theyve lost to outside of guild were actually better than them at that time???? wtf is this reasoning.

it means EMEA playstyle counters NA playstyle lmao

#10
Sprouts
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Optic beat DRX who were able to beat LEV. LEV also barely won against XSET off the back of 11 clutches, meanwhile Optic destroyed them.
Fnatic were only able to beat LEV off of a crazy clutch by Enzo and the only other team they beat were FPX with subs.
And Optic had a closer match against PRX then Guild did.

Why is everyone trying to discredit Optic?

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dapada [#9]

it means EMEA playstyle counters NA playstyle lmao

optic is the most emea styled team in na what the fuck are you talking about???????

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Targu1n
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amyayayy [#4]

champions format was bad coz every team had only one chance in knockouts and it was a bad measure of skill, this format shows fpx went through everything possible to win this and they deserved it

agreed, this format is pretty accurate when it comes to top 2 teams, but the rest of the rankings are less accurate since teams get eliminated with less matches
As long as people understand how the bracket works this format is perfectly fine for what riot wants

#13
spookmeister
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Sprouts [#10]

Optic beat DRX who were able to beat LEV. LEV also barely won against XSET off the back of 11 clutches, meanwhile Optic destroyed them.
Fnatic were only able to beat LEV off of a crazy clutch by Enzo and the only other team they beat were FPX with subs.
And Optic had a closer match against PRX then Guild did.

Why is everyone trying to discredit Optic?

Because it’s a North American team who won an event EU was struggling at. That is the only reason

#14
YvngKurry
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Sprouts [#10]

Optic beat DRX who were able to beat LEV. LEV also barely won against XSET off the back of 11 clutches, meanwhile Optic destroyed them.
Fnatic were only able to beat LEV off of a crazy clutch by Enzo and the only other team they beat were FPX with subs.
And Optic had a closer match against PRX then Guild did.

Why is everyone trying to discredit Optic?

No matter how consistent or good optic are people always find a way to discredit their success. Nothing new lol.

#15
dapada
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Sprouts [#10]

Optic beat DRX who were able to beat LEV. LEV also barely won against XSET off the back of 11 clutches, meanwhile Optic destroyed them.
Fnatic were only able to beat LEV off of a crazy clutch by Enzo and the only other team they beat were FPX with subs.
And Optic had a closer match against PRX then Guild did.

Why is everyone trying to discredit Optic?

my guy there is more than "team A beat team B more dominant than team C so team A > team C"

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dapada [#15]

my guy there is more than "team A beat team B more dominant than team C so team A > team C"

So prove to me how those teams are better than Optic then.

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amyayayy
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Targu1n [#12]

agreed, this format is pretty accurate when it comes to top 2 teams, but the rest of the rankings are less accurate since teams get eliminated with less matches
As long as people understand how the bracket works this format is perfectly fine for what riot wants

i think group stages only for a few teams while others get byes needs to go, swiss and then playoffs based on swiss seedings removes any bias and has best skill rep, im kinda glad fpx won because they played literally the max matches possible so no one can possibly say they got lucky w the bracket

#18
Targu1n
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Sprouts [#10]

Optic beat DRX who were able to beat LEV. LEV also barely won against XSET off the back of 11 clutches, meanwhile Optic destroyed them.
Fnatic were only able to beat LEV off of a crazy clutch by Enzo and the only other team they beat were FPX with subs.
And Optic had a closer match against PRX then Guild did.

Why is everyone trying to discredit Optic?

Well the "they did better than guild vs prx" is a meh argument since one team had 0 matches with 1 day prep time vs 2 matches with 5 days prep time
We saw how good optics prep was on bind and we just dont know how prep time would have changed the guild match

That being said i dont see much of an advantage of dabbling in hypotheticals since we will then never be able to agree on a ranking because theres just so much bias
Fact is optic placed 3rd this tournament
Just take results, its the one unbiased ranking we have

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