Random question but who do you think will make it to franchise if there are 8-10 slots for apac ?
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kallenkzk [#3]paper rex
xerxia
boom
team secret
onic
bleed
AE
GE
Good list. India could easily be Velocity or Enigma or something too, but I hope GE.
otwalcott [#4]Good list. India could easily be Velocity or Enigma or something too, but I hope GE.
Velocity not getting franchised their owner just told now on his stream and if vlt can’t make it there’s no chance EG is getting that slot
kallenkzk [#3]paper rex
xerxia
boom
team secret
onic
bleed
AE
GE
If the orgs don’t have money then they won’t get a slot. The roster will most likely be bought out.
Shashwat_Singh [#5]Velocity not getting franchised their owner just told now on his stream and if vlt can’t make it there’s no chance EG is getting that slot
Sadge, GE it is then.
Syx_ [#8]i think TS xerxia Prx bleed is a lock, from SA maybe GE, if the franchise combined with jp/kr then drx and zeta is a lock too, one slot left maybe 1 team from ID or OCE
I don’t think east asia will be included in apac
Shashwat_Singh [#9]I don’t think east asia will be included in apac
But South America is going to be lumped into NA, I could see them doing NA, EMEA, and Asia as the only regions. Especially since JP and KR have like 2.5 teams combined.
otwalcott [#10]But South America is going to be lumped into NA, I could see them doing NA, EMEA, and Asia as the only regions. Especially since JP and KR have like 2.5 teams combined.
No way they give (JP+KR+APAC) only 8 slots
Shashwat_Singh [#12]No way they give (JP+KR+APAC) only 8 slots
"The three international leagues will be the American, European and Asian leagues. The American League will club the North American, Latin American, and Brazilian regions. The European League will comprise European, MENA, Turkey and Russian regions. The Asian League will be formed by Southeast Asia, Japan, Korea, Oceania and South Asian regions. Riot will be selecting teams from each league and will carry out a selection process for the same in 2022."
otwalcott [#13]"The three international leagues will be the American, European and Asian leagues. The American League will club the North American, Latin American, and Brazilian regions. The European League will comprise European, MENA, Turkey and Russian regions. The Asian League will be formed by Southeast Asia, Japan, Korea, Oceania and South Asian regions. Riot will be selecting teams from each league and will carry out a selection process for the same in 2022."
Sadge
otwalcott [#4]Good list. India could easily be Velocity or Enigma or something too, but I hope GE.
only reason i put GE is honestly cus of the huge numbers they could pull viewership-wise
TS_ChedZ [#11]ORDER
Paper Rex
BREN
Team Secret
XERXIA
Bleed (maybe)
Global eSports
DRX
ZETA
Damwon Gaming kia
whorder?
Shashwat_Singh [#12]No way they give (JP+KR+APAC) only 8 slots
Its 10 per region, just prob 8 allocated to apac, 1 kr, 1 jp
kallenkzk [#15]only reason i put GE is honestly cus of the huge numbers they could pull viewership-wise
Vlt can pull even more viewers but GE is a pretty well established org
KoreanOverlord [#20]there will be 10 slots
DRX
ZETA
CR
Damwon
GenG
Reject
TS
Xerxia
Renegades or Order
1 more SEA team that buys PRX after they disband
It might be something like 8 slots to APAC and 2 to JP,KR
Edit: vlt’s owner accidentally kinda leaked it by saying there are only 8 slots in apac
Shashwat_Singh [#21]It might be something like 8 slots to APAC and 2 to JP,KR
Edit: vlt’s owner accidentally kinda leaked it by saying there are only 8 slots in apac
if its 8 apac slots
its gonna be 4 KR/JP 4 SEA
KoreanOverlord [#24]if its 8 apac slots
its gonna be 4 KR/JP 4 SEA
What makes you say that ? Is it because of the orgs ?
Franchising is not based on region but rather on orgs. So hypothetically RIOT can choose 3 orgs from Indonesia if they fit the criteria. Thats how franchising works in EU as well. It doesn't matter if the org is from Denmark or Poland as long its profitable orgs which brings good money to RIOT. Since APAC teams are so nationalistic RIOT can do something like 3 players per sub-region in 1 team.
Shashwat_Singh [#25]What makes you say that ? Is it because of the orgs ?
the fact that almost all apac orgs except exceptions like TS, XIA, Bleed, are poverty teams
JiangLi [#26]Franchising is not based on region but rather on orgs. So hypothetically RIOT can choose 3 orgs from Indonesia if they fit the criteria. Thats how franchising works in EU as well. It doesn't matter if the org is from Denmark or Poland as long its profitable orgs which brings good money to RIOT. Since APAC teams are so nationalistic RIOT can do something like 3 players per sub-region in 1 team.
Yeah wouldn’t be surprised if some NA,EU org gets the franchise here in apac
KoreanOverlord [#24]if its 8 apac slots
its gonna be 4 KR/JP 4 SEA
nah 4 kr,jp and china so other 4 is apac
KoreanOverlord [#27]the fact that almost all apac orgs except exceptions like TS, XIA, Bleed, are poverty teams
True i guess
Shashwat_Singh [#28]Yeah wouldn’t be surprised if some NA,EU org gets the franchise here in apac
Some fans are so dumb and delusional to think RIOT gives a shit about their country and fans. Its just a business at the end and RIOT will always look for a profit.
TS_ChedZ [#11]ORDER
Paper Rex
BREN
Team Secret
XERXIA
Bleed (maybe)
Global eSports
DRX
ZETA
Damwon Gaming kia
Bren?????
TS_ChedZ [#11]ORDER
Paper Rex
BREN
Team Secret
XERXIA
Bleed (maybe)
Global eSports
DRX
ZETA
Damwon Gaming kia
Bren pay their players nothing and PRX are probably going to disband after Champions
JiangLi [#31]Some fans are so dumb and delusional to think RIOT gives a shit about their country and fans. Its just a business at the end and RIOT will always look for a profit.
which teams do you think will get the slots in asia?
Shashwat_Singh [#21]It might be something like 8 slots to APAC and 2 to JP,KR
Edit: vlt’s owner accidentally kinda leaked it by saying there are only 8 slots in apac
8 slots for asian league/ 8 slots for APAC in asian league?
thatpower [#34]which teams do you think will get the slots in asia?
Confirmed slots probably - Bleed , Xerxia , Team Secret
Rest upto RIOT and franchised slots can very likely go to foreign orgs who wont get slots in NA/EU
TS_ChedZ [#11]ORDER
Paper Rex
BREN
Team Secret
XERXIA
Bleed (maybe)
Global eSports
DRX
ZETA
Damwon Gaming kia
another common master TS_ChedZ extreme insane W it is an honour to wear the same flag and flair as you
KoreanOverlord [#20]there will be 10 slots
DRX
ZETA
CR
Damwon
GenG
Reject
TS
Xerxia
Renegades or Order
1 more SEA team that buys PRX after they disband
surely 6/10 teams will be JPKR kekw
I think 8-10 slots will only possible if we included whole asia
Sorted by the most likely to be franchised
- Team Secret (definitely known org and PH fanbase are massive)
- PRX (the most succesful team so far even though the org is new, there is a chance a big org buy them though)
- ORDER (biggest org in Australia after Renegades)
- DRX (most succesful KR team)
- ZETA (biggest JP org)
- Edward Gaming (if the team doesn't change org)
- DAMWON? (they're big org in KR with massive fanbase)
- XERXIA (most succesful thai team. if the team isnt being bought by MITH ofc)
- BOOM (biggest org in Indonesia)
- Global Esports (edited: I forgot about South Asian scene lol)
If China isn't included yet then probably the spot will go to KR/other international org then
Luck_ [#38]another common master TS_ChedZ extreme insane W it is an honour to wear the same flag and flair as you
1 question, its ORDER big org in aus ?
Astar [#40]I think 8-10 slots will only possible if we included whole asia
Sorted by the most likely to be franchised
- Team Secret (definitely known org and PH fanbase are massive)
- PRX (the most succesful team so far even though the org is new, there is a chance a big org buy them though)
- ORDER (biggest org in Australia after Renegades)
- DRX (most succesful KR team)
- ZETA (biggest JP org)
- Edward Gaming (if the team doesn't change org)
- DAMWON? (they're big org in KR with massive fanbase)
- XERXIA (most succesful thai team. if the team isnt being bought by MITH ofc)
- BOOM (biggest org in Indonesia)
- Global Esports (edited: I forgot about South Asian scene lol)
If China isn't included yet then probably the spot will go to KR/other international org then
PRX , Order and BOOM are unlikely and also RIOT dont give a shit about fanbase they only care about how much money the org will bring them and it also doesn't depend on the region of the org because at the end these orgs will represent whole APAC not just 1 country/sub-region.
SleepyBear [#42]1 question, its ORDER big org in aus ?
yes, one of the biggest orgs in oce as a whole
Luck_ [#44]yes, one of the biggest orgs in oce as a whole
Earlier i thought TeamPWR will get franchised for sure over any other OCE org just because how much money they have and how much hype they create in OCE but sadly RIOT denied them.
JiangLi [#43]PRX , Order and BOOM are unlikely and also RIOT dont give a shit about fanbase they only care about how much money the org will bring them and it also doesn't depend on the region of the org because at the end these orgs will represent whole APAC not just 1 country/sub-region.
that's the more reason for riot to get a big org that have massive fanbase in every areas = more money. The team is very likely to be the most important priority. Don't be surprised if some EU/NA org is actually planting their org here in Asia if they don't have the franchise slots in their region.
Astar [#40]I think 8-10 slots will only possible if we included whole asia
Sorted by the most likely to be franchised
- Team Secret (definitely known org and PH fanbase are massive)
- PRX (the most succesful team so far even though the org is new, there is a chance a big org buy them though)
- ORDER (biggest org in Australia after Renegades)
- DRX (most succesful KR team)
- ZETA (biggest JP org)
- Edward Gaming (if the team doesn't change org)
- DAMWON? (they're big org in KR with massive fanbase)
- XERXIA (most succesful thai team. if the team isnt being bought by MITH ofc)
- BOOM (biggest org in Indonesia)
- Global Esports (edited: I forgot about South Asian scene lol)
If China isn't included yet then probably the spot will go to KR/other international org then
Bleed ?
OzyMeister [#39]surely 6/10 teams will be JPKR kekw
riot have some weird criteria, it's possible imo. would kind of make sense because of KR LoL presence and JP viewership, but it would fuck over SEA and SA
SleepyBear [#46]whos from singapore i wanna ask, Can military service be postponed ? or can get an exception ?
No exceptions. Can defer only for a lil bit but have to serve .
Shashwat_Singh [#49]Bleed ?
Bleed is a huge singapore org. If they get the spot there's a chance they might buy PRX then. Or it could work vice-versa. The current team at the moment just doesnt cut it.
JiangLi [#51]No exceptions. Can defer only for a lil bit but have to serve .
and how long ? the military service
Astar [#48]that's the more reason for riot to get a big org that have massive fanbase in every areas = more money. The team is very likely to be the most important priority. Don't be surprised if some EU/NA org is actually planting their org here in Asia if they don't have the franchise slots in their region.
Yes that probably what will end up happening or can see the possibility or some other org enter APAC. EU/NA are their top priority just because how established they already are.
Astar [#52]Bleed is a huge singapore org. If they get the spot there's a chance they might buy PRX then. Or it could work vice-versa. The current team at the moment just doesnt cut it.
PRX cant buy BLEED . Bleed are for sure getting the slot and they have good funding and even support from SG government and also they care about SG local talent. They are doing so much like Academy team , Bleed summer Tourneys for SG + other regions and their owner is also looking for a GC team. PRX have done none of that and their performance at International is irrelevant to Franchising.
JiangLi [#54]Yes that probably what will end up happening or can see the possibility or some other org enter APAC. EU/NA are their top priority just because how established they already are.
its just because they have more money and already have established org and fanbase. But I can see the same for chinese org tbh. (they are rich too, FPX is a chinese org btw)
TS_ChedZ [#11]ORDER
Paper Rex
BREN
Team Secret
XERXIA
Bleed (maybe)
Global eSports
DRX
ZETA
Damwon Gaming kia
bleed maybe lmaooo
JiangLi [#55]PRX cant buy BLEED . Bleed are for sure getting the slot and they have good funding and even support from SG government and also they care about SG local talent. They are doing so much like Academy team , Bleed summer Tourneys for SG + other regions and their owner is also looking for a GC team. PRX have done none of that and their performance at International is irrelevant to Franchising.
if that's the case then for sure Bleed will buy PRX lol. Obviously the team owner wants a better result.
Astar [#57]its just because they have more money and already have established org and fanbase. But I can see the same for chinese org tbh. (they are rich too, FPX is a chinese org btw)
If we’re are talking about china EDG surely gets a slot right
Shashwat_Singh [#60]If we’re are talking about china EDG surely gets a slot right
edward gaming is a massive org in local chinese community. and the team at the moment is the best at their respective region. the problem lies on the team whether on which org they want to stay, if they keep performing at their level. China have a lot of huge esports org that maybe can offer more money to the team. (the likes of LGD, IG)
Shashwat_Singh [#60]If we’re are talking about china EDG surely gets a slot right
game isn't even released there, idk if they're even allowed to do that
archetype [#50]riot have some weird criteria, it's possible imo. would kind of make sense because of KR LoL presence and JP viewership, but it would fuck over SEA and SA
fair enough
JiangLi [#47]Earlier i thought TeamPWR will get franchised for sure over any other OCE org just because how much money they have and how much hype they create in OCE but sadly RIOT denied them.
PWR is a joke. If they enter val, OCE gets two slots.
kallenkzk [#3]paper rex
xerxia
boom
team secret
onic
bleed
AE
GE
I feel like order is a lock for franchising, and it should be noted that it's all one asian league.
MerkFreeks [#17]Its 10 per region, just prob 8 allocated to apac, 1 kr, 1 jp
Thats just wrong information but keep spreading it
pally [#69]is renegade for OCE?
well Renegades is both an American team and an Australian team. They were in talks with BOBO to sign them but i think that fell through.
TS_ChedZ [#70]well Renegades is both an American team and an Australian team. They were in talks with BOBO to sign them but i think that fell through.
ah i see
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