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#60
Shashwat_Singh
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I mean the reason you guys have one slot is because of VS performances last year

#61
KoreanOverlord
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bro u are delusional if you think slots are based on meritocracy and performance

brazil never got out of groups all year and this year they have the same amount of slots as the entirety of north america

#64
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It pretty sure does performance definitely also plays a big role BR has one only slot the other one you know the lcq (latam+br) remember last time at champions VK,Vikings almost defeated the the finalists of champions acend,gambit even though they ultimately didn’t made out of groups and kru finished top 3/4 this kinda justifies why they have an extra lcq slot aside from the one they already got

#62
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thats not why we have 1 slot. sea did not do better than VS last year and yet they will have 4 guaranteed apac slots compared to our 1 guaranteed for champions

#65
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Wdym 2 SEA teams were in the playoffs at champions and FS made it out of LCQ (JP+KR+APAC) and in masters 3 our best team at that time Bren (TS) were unable to play the event due to the visa issues. Also KR started of pretty good top 3 but fell off slowly in masters 3 (KR had 2 teams btw) top 8 and then ultimately grouped plus SEA is such a big region consisting of so many countries

#69
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going off international results alone in 2021, kr- top 3 finish, top 8 finish. sea- 2 top 8 finishes. and u cant use the fact that kr had 2 teams in masters when sea had 3 in champions when kr had 1. cant be bringing excuses like visa when i can also start using excuses like 'drx happened to vs gmb in quarters and were the only team to take a map off them in playoffs' or like 'teams like TS had the easiest route to playoffs in champions whilst drx had to verse 2 major region teams in their group'

#71
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First of all SEA had 2 direct slots in champions FS earned their slot in LCQ there could’ve been 2 KR teams in champions but weren’t cause they didn’t made in LCQ second visa is totally a different issue idk how are you comparing it to which team had a easier route and which one not. They were our best team at that time (3-0 prx in finals) imagine if VS didn’t made it to masters 3 due to some issues and f4q was your only representative would you have got a top 8 finish no right by this i am not saying TS would have made it to playoffs or something like that but they were robbed of their chance due to uncontrollable circumstances

#74
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  1. still had more slots than kr in champions
  2. i brought it up cuz bren obtaining visa literally does not mean anything or guarantee results. they werent that much better than prx (2 of the 3 maps went OT) and prx bombed out at the very bottom of their group without winning a game.
#77
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Well SEA consists of multiple countries (VN,TH,ID,MY/SG,HK/TW) justifies them of having 2 slots at champions and totally agreed with the second point obtaining visa dosent guarantees results

#66
fracra
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i'd say SEA did better than VS last year, 2 teams in playoffs in the most important event of the year. VS made playoffs in berlin but who knows what bren could've done if they got their visas. SEA has 2 confirmed slots, KR 1, with lcq's for APAC N and APAC S. Performance alone doesn't determine slots but i think it does play a factor cause look at the changes made to BR 2 slots when they didn't achieve jackshit.

#67
Shashwat_Singh
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Exactly now they have to share a slot with latam probably cause of KRU’s performance at champions

#68
KoreanOverlord
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u know BR still has 2 slots, and 3 for champions right?

#72
fracra
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1 confirmed slot with 1 last chance for masters and 2 last chances for champs, big difference.

#70
jimjam789
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top 3 top 8 > top 8 top 8 no matter how u look at it. 'who knows what bren could have done with visa' when i could say 'who knows what VS could have done if they didnt vs GMB in the quarters', mind u bren literally thought VS was the best team in the world at that time and GMB themselves had said VS is their biggest threat.

#73
fracra
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top 3 in the first ever international lan, with a terrible playoffs system with only 10 teams that allows them to go top 3 while only winning 2 matches against 2nd seed teams of diff regions. top 8 in the second masters event. 2 top 8 finishes in the most important event of the year > top 3 in the first one with 10 teams only and top 8 respectively. obviously riot also prioritizes recent results over older ones to shape the 2022 vct circuit. also the what if scenarios are incredibly different, on one hand the best team of a region can't attend and play, later on they also got top 8 in champs so it's more relevant to discuss this one, where the other one is seeded into.

#75
Shashwat_Singh
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Gonna add onto it and also one of the reasons KR has only slot this year is due to the fact there was not much of a competition in the region at that time aside from VS. NU,F4Q,Damwon all played in lcq but did not made it out and at that time kr was regarded as the best region in asia since none of the kr teams made it out people started calling it a one team region

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