The best player in the world (At least by stats)

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PCGamer

Hello, everyone!

I would like to discuss with you about a topic that interest me recently. Who is currently the best player in the world by stats? By multiple stats not just ACS but mainly ACS, Player ratings (That are only on this website), K/D, etc And maybe rounds as well.

After a lot of "research" and checking I came to the conclusion of two players and managed to narrow it down to just two.

TenZ and Mwzera both have crazy stats that are almost can only be achieved with cheats (See NisaY that had 310 ACS and got banned recently) But now I am with the biggest problem ever. Since I do not know who is the best out of these two at least from the stats.

Because as of right now I tend to think that it is TenZ since he has so many rounds played compared to Mwzera.

Also, a very weird thing is that no one actually knows what are the exact updated rounds that Mwzera played in total since in here it says around 1200 and in VLR it says around 1700 so it is very weird

And both of these numbers are extremely low rounds.

What are your thoughts guys?

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For me is TenZ, last week I saw TenZ while in line at the bank. He was wearing 13 rolexes and a chain made out of protein powder so I asked how he had so much money. He said "WATCH THIS", pulled out a glock and robbed the bank for $31,203. Then he double updrafted and dashed out of the store.
I’m telling you, TenZ is as cracked as he is jacked. I saw him at a 7-11 the other day buying Monster and adult diapers. I asked him what the diapers were for and he said ”they contain my full power so I don’t completely shit on these kids“ then he bunny hopped out the door.

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10/10

Now for real?

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For real is TenZ, this man is insane, his mechanical aim is something that scared a lot of players, his clutches are unbelievable, the way he uses the agents is great

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Yeah, nice I guess you are probably right.

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TenZ skilled player but that is not normally, This very very insane....They need to check him pc and game.....Maybe he not cheating but maybe he using the game deficit ...and this cant seem on game screen..

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yeah but they are duelists, ofc they will have higher ACS, ADR and so and so. The impact controllers/initiators/sentinels are barely witnessed in stats.

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Agreed... I have no idea how ACS isn’t calculated, but an advantage of using other formulas such as HLTV 2.0 is that it takes into account KAST, which is more within different roles.

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hekzy

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well hopefully riot fixes that. because its very hard to rank up as a non-duelist

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ACS is just players combat score from each round added up. The only things that add to combat score are kills, damage, assists and mulitkills.

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I can speak at least a little on NA - players to watch (currently in the scene) are aproto, asuna, sinatraa, nitr0, Subroza, Shawn, Shot Up, food, Wardell. If you're talking a single best player? I'd definitely have to say it's one of aproto, nitr0, and sinatraa.

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+1 for nitro, smart plays and always gets impact frags

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I was actually looking at aproto's stats and man, his h/s % is always high, granted he's a cypher main and won't always have a high score so I feel he's underrated.

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There is a problem with these comments above: you guys just talking about NA players. Stats are also meaningless through a player only plays in his region.

No argue, they are all fantastic players(sinatraa fanboy talking) and you might be true but you can't dismiss Europe in Valorant. Even in Korea there are some fantastic players too. Zyppan, Ardiis, Russz, Jady, Scream are not behind of these players and there are more players at the same level in Europe. Vision Strikers' glow is also a fantastic top level player.

It is always fun to talk about "the best", I will keep talking too but I think we can never decide who is "the best" in real. Valorant is more strategy based game. Pure talent will never mean everything for the game. This game will never have its own Faker, s1mple or ZywOo.

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Yeah I just didn't want to pretend like I knew about Europe so I said specifically for NA. It's hard to compare regions in general right now before any international matches happen anyways.

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JADY

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biased

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hekzy

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but factual

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pl1xx

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it's really easy to just say "scream" or "tenz" because of their stats but i feel like this topic is better when we break it into pieces like "best sentinel" or "best duelist", because some people, even though they might not have very good stats, provide such value for their teams they can't be dismissed. Just my opinion, please don't hate.

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I have to agree
Best duelist: scream (because he wins all the duels)

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Then scream uses his E to his own death. xD

Are there any other candidates from Europe?

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as duelist? Mixwell, rhyme (although he is a greatly rounded player), zyppan, doma and an up and comer (imo) kadavraa

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It is same for Zyppan what you say for Rhyme I guess. That's why I didn't consider Zyppan as a candidate for the best duelist, but I can do consider him as a best player candidate.

On the other hand, the other players are not that good I guess. There is a small difference but still there is a difference.

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hekzy

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havent seen zyppan on anything other than raze, doma too
rhyme plays sova, raze, reyna, jett everything

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You should watch FPX more. He even plays Sage(nonsense btw) sometimes.

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I watch all fpx matches because they're my second favourite team. Unpopular opinion but, I think Shao is better and a more rounded player than zyppan. Shao mostly plays the sage.

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100% Shao is best player on FPX and one of the best in all EU, sure Zyppan might have a higher skill ceiling but rn Shao is a more complete player.

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henlo friberg nice to see you here

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I wouldn't sleep on cNed. imo he's the best jett awper in eu currently.

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True, but sometimes he doesn't bring himself to the game(like in First Strike against FPX). Otherwise he can make a huge impact to the game, pure talent.

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i agree

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we're not in CS:GO to mention the AWP.
btw, Fit1nho and mixwell are good with the OP as well

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Then we also shouldn't consider the only vandal/phantom players, who never plays awp, too? He was chosen the best awp in First Strike, even Mixwell always let him play Jett when they play together.

I agree, we can't say he is one of the best player candidates but sure thing his fundamental is unique and when he finds a way to make his play more stable, I think he will be the best Duelist. He's got plenty of time to do that by considering he is only early 18.

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I watch mixwell a lot because he's a spanish player and i speak spanish too and that's true, mix queue a lot in ranked with fit1 and they change roles sometimes, mixwell can play any agent in ranked, he's 5Head with almost any agent, he's respectful with turkish's because his aim is insane, he rage a lot when a turkish kill him because of that. btw when i'm saying about the awp, call the weapons with his name in the game, not from other games

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I don't understand completely but all Turkish people loves and respects Mixwell. I know he has same feelings against Turkish people too even sometimes they are toxic. cNed and Mix also have a good relationship maybe not as much as Mix and Fit1nho. I don't get the point here.

Mixwell is a complete player, like you said. Comparing him with otp players is disrespectful for both sides. I can easily say Mixwell is better than cNed but cNed is a better Jett(not just awp) player. That is why I especially underlined the "Best duelist comparison".

Whatever, Valorant's first year is not over yet and still we have tons of amazing players. Seems like we will see more in the future. I am getting rest and enjoy watching them all. No fight for them. Cheers bros!

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If VLR.gg had a HLTV top 20 for 2020, I say that Mixwell would have to be number 1 just based on wins in touneys and how well he plays. Now in overall skill i think Scream is the best rifler, an underrated rifler is aproto. Awper I would say Mixwell. Overall I think its also Mixwell, he can do it all.

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I would say ardiis. He was a jett operator for fish123 with great success, went to G2 playing sova rifler and carried super hard, and now plays raze or whatever he wants and still performs super good.

On the other hand Mixwell on a good day is a beast, but sometimes he goes missing.

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True, Ardiis overall I think has the most tourney wins but mixwell is just preformed better than him, not by a huge margin but enough to put him at 2 and not 1.

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ardiis is insane.
https://www.twitch.tv/alliedesports/clip/IntelligentVibrantLardThunBeast

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when was this?

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https://www.vlr.gg/1753/g2-esports-vs-funplus-phoenix-allied-esports-odyssey-playoffs-gf

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I know ardiis is insane just saying if they had a HLTV style top 20 for 2020 that mixwell would be #1 because of wins and rating. Ardiis I think would be #2.

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maybe mwzera, idk this dude is insane mechanically speaking, he is crazy, he is super consistent and constant, his aim is one of the best i have ever seen

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Well his name ends with zera

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https://twitter.com/mwzera/status/1350328143798743040

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heard that his style of gameplay is somehow different from the meta

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That's true, the strafe he does is completely different. The joke here in Brazil is that this mf is dancing and shooting always two bullets.
He is going footlose and killing everybody

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That mf is dancing XD

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That is literally an ADAD abuse that the devs have put intentionally and that should be removed.

30% acceleration accuracy MY ASS.

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Reminds you of someone else...

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I, for one, dont have a defintite best player, as vlr has to create some kind of ranking to establish this, but here are some notable names in the conversation:

-ScreaM (EU)
-yaccine (EU)
-m1xwell (EU)
-Pyth (EU)
-TenZ (NA)
-Hiko (NA)
-Food (NA)
-sinatraa (NA)
-Kaboose (NA)
-Wardell (NA)

Not saying here that players in Korea, LATAM, and other regions arent good, but those are some of the best players ive seen play in those regions since i haven't really watched many other regional matches. This is simply a list i felt was the best from both the EU and NA side of things, since i have watched many hours of matches from those regions the most.

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In LATAM North we can see players like Daveeys, Xander or Nolan who are insane duelists

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I watched couple of times Xander, agree with you. Can't wait for LAN games to see how really good are these players against each other...

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Pyth and Yaccine in the list but no Zyppan, Ardiis, Jady, Shao, Russz from EU ? No offense but I don't think you've watched more than 5 EU games. If Pyth would see your list, he says even himself "What am I doing here?" :)

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^^ :D dude isn't even top 3 within his own team

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yea, I see what you mean, I felt like there were some people missing in the EU side.

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HEET Bzt

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From NA(current):
-Wardell(The best rn imo)
-SicK
-Crashies
-nitr0
-ShoT_UP
-aproto
-Android
Alright just to explain some things, I wanna say that I am almost completely basing this off of Challengers. TenZ isn't on here because he quit, he would 100% be the number 1 player if he didn't quit but he did. As for players like sinatraa, Asuna and Drone, since I'm basing it off of Challengers, and they both haven't been playing great, neither of them are on this list. I am basing off of Challengers because the players who have been the best in Challengers, are the best players right now and even though sinatraa was a top 3 player leading up to Challengers, he has massively underperformed and doesn't deserve a spot on the list of the best players. If I had to add 1 more player to the list it would probably be food or Asuna but because of food's inconsistency and Asuna's recent lackluster performance, I don't think either of them deserve a spot. Also I don't watch XSET much at all but based on the stats and the performance of XSET, I think BcJ deserves an honorable mention.

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So If TenZ was here you would rate him as #1 Best valorant player in the world?

If that is the case, then nice I can agree on that tbh.

Also he will come back 100% but no one knows exactly when but once he comes back the hype will go crazy.

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I would say he is(or at least was before he left) the BEST in the world but the GREATEST(in terms of legacy) would have to be ardiis

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Best sentinel GO (pAura imo)

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It worries not seeing Mixwell, Mixwell is the top 3 eu players, if not top 1. In the world he is in the top 5, and you can ask that every player and they will agree.

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pampire

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mixwell isn't in my top 3 because of his major consistency issues which a lot of jett players are struggling with. Yeah he sometimes pops off but sometimes he just fails to make an impact.

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Just look at his last 20-30 games.

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I Hope this ages well, but the best is MWzera, TenZ doesn't play competitive anymore so Mw has the best stats. Mw has some insane movements that everybody who compete against him says he is almost Impossible to aim at plus a really solid aim and a great mechanic. He is the best. I Will bring to this discussion RB from Vision Strikers too. To be honest, this isn't CS, most comments always put NA and EU on top, you guys need to watch other scenes too.

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i can agree with the mwzera part. Many brezilian players are insane overall but i still don't think korea is at the level of other major regions mechanically.

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You understood me wrong, only RB in Korea, maybe stax too.

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Oh and i forgot, our scene in Brazil is really Full of world Champions or contenders in world Championships in other FPS, like point blank (all gamelanders except for MW, for example) and crosfire. There is some really good players who can be a surprise for the people who doesn't watch de scenario. QCK, Xand, FZR, NTK, FZK they're all good, and o mention the ex-Estrals who plays in Brazil Saadhack and Nozwerr too.
There is one player to watch too: Aspas. There's a discussion in Brazil if that mf is legit. He got banned in GC in CS (GC is similar tô FACEIT) and came to valorant killing 40 in every ranked becaming the top 1 in our rank, he plays for favela aimers but is a free agent, almost got his classification to VCT yesterday

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Okay, nice guys thank you so much for this discussion lol tbh I never thought it will get so many comments.

So after reading everything it basically comes to the only solution of 2 players.

TenZ VS Mwzera

Who do you guys think is the best player in the world as of right now? even though tenz is out of the scene but he can comeback anyday also tomorrow just for an example.

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honestly, i think (if he can get past his dashing issues) scream is better than both of these players.

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So you still think that the best player is who has best mechanics? I don't think this is the conclusion but whatever, we'll see it in LAN games.

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Any idea anyone why Dignitas wasn't playing in the Challengers 3 open qual for NA?

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Apparently Psalm was having surgery

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Ahhh thank you