everyone is forgetting them but these guys are 8-0 in maps +64 round difference. For me, it's the only team that comes close to fnatic rn.
Sukita [#5]Yes who cares about NA, KR, Latam and BR
Also if NA is a ‘one team region’ (which is dumb to say imo) so is APAC. PRX have only lost one domestic match this year and that was when they were literally trolling
Rabbiit [#8]Loud again was in an easier group in this group stage, but we will see in the playoffs if this egemony will continue.
But for me fnatic is still a level above
NIP isn't even close to LOUD.
Rabbiit [#8]Loud again was in an easier group in this group stage, but we will see in the playoffs if this egemony will continue.
But for me fnatic is still a level above
ofc they will, loud have no competition here in Brazil. No other team have a captain like Sadhaak, skilled and smart players like sacy, aspas and clutch players like pancada and less
Heyheyehyehyehyrhyr [#10]NIP isn't even close to LOUD.
Well, MIBR proved to be very strong, Nip is getting organized with the new player and coach, Vk is coming from an insane growth, Wednesday we will see how Loud will be
Thiag0_ [#11]ofc they will, loud have no competition here in Brazil. No other team have a captain like Sadhaak, skilled and smart players like sacy, aspas and clutch players like pancada and less
Nah, It's not like that, most tier 1 teams have players like that, the difference is in the organization of all this, for example NIP has experienced players with aim, VK has 3 killing machines with experience, Heat, MW and Murizz (Murizz which is easy top 3 igl Br), Rgl has a lot of intelligence and aim in addition to giving a lot of clutch, and Rhz is similar to Less and Bezn, a bet. These teams have players equivalent to Loud, but they don't have the structure and organization that Loud has.
So it's quite possible to break their egemony, but that's what we're going to see this week
Rabbiit [#13]Nah, It's not like that, most tier 1 teams have players like that, the difference is in the organization of all this, for example NIP has experienced players with aim, VK has 3 killing machines with experience, Heat, MW and Murizz (Murizz which is easy top 3 igl Br), Rgl has a lot of intelligence and aim in addition to giving a lot of clutch, and Rhz is similar to Less and Bezn, a bet. These teams have players equivalent to Loud, but they don't have the structure and organization that Loud has.
So it's quite possible to break their egemony, but that's what we're going to see this week
I don't trust so much in NIP. For me this time furia and VK will surprise
Sprouts [#9]Also if NA is a ‘one team region’ (which is dumb to say imo) so is APAC. PRX have only lost one domestic match this year and that was when they were literally trolling
APAC second seed still does damage tho, Xerxia beat optic and were one round away from beating TL. So its a two team region I guess?
PRLV [#16]APAC second seed still does damage tho, Xerxia beat optic and were one round away from beating TL. So its a two team region I guess?
TGRD literally played Optic and PRX, both top 4 teams. I'm sure they would've done better if they got the chance to go through groups.
thiagomds [#15]I don't trust so much in NIP. For me this time furia and VK will surprise
I don't particularly like Nip's gameplay, they don't give an image that they will do well internationally playing only on W. But the addition of v1xen gives a little brain to the team, so it's cool to see how they go
Rabbiit [#13]Nah, It's not like that, most tier 1 teams have players like that, the difference is in the organization of all this, for example NIP has experienced players with aim, VK has 3 killing machines with experience, Heat, MW and Murizz (Murizz which is easy top 3 igl Br), Rgl has a lot of intelligence and aim in addition to giving a lot of clutch, and Rhz is similar to Less and Bezn, a bet. These teams have players equivalent to Loud, but they don't have the structure and organization that Loud has.
So it's quite possible to break their egemony, but that's what we're going to see this week
Just no
Aspas>>heat
Saadhak>> murizz
Sacy>> mwzera
Less>>>>>>>>>rhz
Pancada>RGLmeister
ChrisGG [#20]Just no
Aspas>>heat
Saadhak>> murizz
Sacy>> mwzera
Less>>>>>>>>>rhz
Pancada>RGLmeister
Could argue that rglmeister is as good as Pancada but anything else they are not nearly as good as loud players are individually
Before LOUD signed this roster all 5 of this players were top 1-5 in Brazil rankeds consistently only mwzera and heat could compete with them
Heyheyehyehyehyrhyr [#6]DRX and LOUD have no competition in their regions, we can't know if they are improving until an International tournament.
the difference is loud already proven themself by finished second in masters reykjavik.
trembolonaRage [#22]Loud is a fraud
They lost in a humiliating way to optic, weak map pool, no counter play against NA playstyle
Only managed to beat TL and G2 which are trash teams that would lose even to some br teams
Oh my lord
Rabbiit [#8]Loud again was in an easier group in this group stage, but we will see in the playoffs if this egemony will continue.
But for me fnatic is still a level above
mwzera > everyone
trembolonaRage [#22]Loud is a fraud
They lost in a humiliating way to optic, weak map pool, no counter play against NA playstyle
Only managed to beat TL and G2 which are trash teams that would lose even to some br teams
Wow, nobody cares!
Stfu please
trembolonaRage [#22]Loud is a fraud
They lost in a humiliating way to optic, weak map pool, no counter play against NA playstyle
Only managed to beat TL and G2 which are trash teams that would lose even to some br teams
True all Aim no brain
ChrisGG [#20]Just no
Aspas>>heat
Saadhak>> murizz
Sacy>> mwzera
Less>>>>>>>>>rhz
Pancada>RGLmeister
Well, if you are going to compare specific positions you are already wrong, since it would be:
Duelist: Aspas </=/> Mwzera (Both play the role of duelist very well, but obviously MW has a better Raze and impact, but that can be debatable since Aspas flexibility is greater)
Flex: Saadhak =/> Murizzz (Saadhak as igl is better and smarter, but in aim Murizzz is better)
Initiator: Sacy >>>>>>> Rhz (I don't even need to say anything here, it's the bald man)
Chamber: Less <<<< Heat (Chamber basically became the fixed sentinel of the teams, so if you put in that category only Chamber, Heat just destroys, aims better, more impact, Operator better, etc. If considering general Sentry that is not the current meta, Less has an advantage for flexibility.
Smokes: Pancada=/>> RglMeister: Both are extremely smart and incredibly good at clutching, Rgl has a better tactical game than Pancada, but Pancada has one of the best aim on the server if not the best.
But well, it's my opinion, Loud's main difference is not players, but the set of everything that makes up the game
sad_gambit_fan [#3]yes optic totally didnt beat them 3-0 and dont have a 7 map pool
They beat em right before tho
FoechiGG [#30]They beat em right before tho
cuz less dropped 30 and ur talking as if it wasnt a close match it was a 13-11 lol
and the grand finals literally matter more than ubf
loud lost with the insane map pool advantage 3-0
edit : im not saying loud are bad , im just saying optic are better and are in the same tier as fnatic when loud is a tier below
ChrisGG [#20]Just no
Aspas>>heat
Saadhak>> murizz
Sacy>> mwzera
Less>>>>>>>>>rhz
Pancada>RGLmeister
Just ignore it, this guy thinks VK has an individual level equal to LOUD, doesn't even deserve to be taken seriously. All VK players are medium to bad level.
sad_gambit_fan [#31]cuz less dropped 30 and ur talking as if it wasnt a close match it was a 13-11 lol
and the grand finals literally matter more than ubf
loud lost with the insane map pool advantage 3-0
edit : im not saying loud are bad , im just saying optic are better and are in the same tier as fnatic when loud is a tier below
OPTC might be better but teams change fast and for a 3 0 GF was a close match too