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TenZ on a different team

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#1
SaltyMcNulty

Is there any doubt that TenZ would be a different beast on a capable team? All the mistakes he makes i feel like is bc he feels the need to do more and I can't blame him for that feeling tbh. With a capable coaching staff I think he could iron out these mistakesl.

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Swagmaster111122
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I feel like if he was on a team that has good coordination setting him up for kills he would be insane like any player would in those circumstance. Aim helps star players but what really makes them shine is the team setting them up.

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fardeengg
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will not work check TENZ KAST%
this is not ranked where you just go and fragout he is insane might be one of the best but not as a proplayer

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SAMPV6
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We just need a good coach and supporting staff man. No joke, I feel like a sports psychologist would help them with their mental.

The org could really do more, the players are really talented.

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trembolonaRage
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limited agent pool

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Shownu
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If Sinatraa rejoins instead of TenZ, Sentinels would still be in playoff contention. Sinatraa can play Raze and Initiators while Shahz plays his Jett and Chamber.

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SAMPV6
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fardeengg [#3]

will not work check TENZ KAST%
this is not ranked where you just go and fragout he is insane might be one of the best but not as a proplayer

Yeah dude, he keeps dashing into people like babybay. Bro, it's BABYBAY, not some random guy from ranked.

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GLN321
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fardeengg [#3]

will not work check TENZ KAST%
this is not ranked where you just go and fragout he is insane might be one of the best but not as a proplayer

did you even read the post

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SAMPV6
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Shownu [#6]

If Sinatraa rejoins instead of TenZ, Sentinels would still be in playoff contention. Sinatraa can play Raze and Initiators while Shahz plays his Jett and Chamber.

You might have a point here, I think Shahz on the Jett/chamber would get a ton more value than as an initiator. Not that he's bad, he's just better spent at other things.

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SAMPV6 [#9]

You might have a point here, I think Shahz on the Jett/chamber would get a ton more value than as an initiator. Not that he's bad, he's just better spent at other things.

Sinatraa is just a better player than TenZ. Overwatch Champion and actually a prodigy that lived up to the hype unlike TenZ who had to switch games to find his way into a starting roster.

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Swagmaster111122
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Shownu [#10]

Sinatraa is just a better player than TenZ. Overwatch Champion and actually a prodigy that lived up to the hype unlike TenZ who had to switch games to find his way into a starting roster.

They should just have them both in a team

#12
SaltyMcNulty
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trembolonaRage [#5]

limited agent pool

Didn't even get the chance to play chamber or neon. They just put him on Jett cz they need his entries. Raze is just hard to master when your team can't set you up.

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SaltyMcNulty
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Shownu [#6]

If Sinatraa rejoins instead of TenZ, Sentinels would still be in playoff contention. Sinatraa can play Raze and Initiators while Shahz plays his Jett and Chamber.

It's not 2019. No one knows how good sinatraa would be and Shahz's Jett style isn't viable anymore. He doesn't entry and farms on ecos with the OP. People barely peeks into OP like they used to. Lot more good initiators to move Set OPers like Shahz.

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SaltyMcNulty
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SAMPV6 [#9]

You might have a point here, I think Shahz on the Jett/chamber would get a ton more value than as an initiator. Not that he's bad, he's just better spent at other things.

As if he hasn't tried those. He played both Jett and Chamber in officials this year.

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Mjtchell
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100T wouldve been perfect for him, but Im getting attached to Will sooooo

#16
SaltyMcNulty
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Mjtchell [#15]

100T wouldve been perfect for him, but Im getting attached to Will sooooo

TSM TenZ would be nice as well.

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GooberBoy
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fardeengg [#3]

will not work check TENZ KAST%
this is not ranked where you just go and fragout he is insane might be one of the best but not as a proplayer

KAST is an awful stat for duelists, the main downsides of stats like ACS and fk% is that its duelist favored, but if you're comparing duelists then you shouldn't use KAST. In general the duelists with high KASTs are the ones on really coordinated teams, not the duelists that are better

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fardeengg [#3]

will not work check TENZ KAST%
this is not ranked where you just go and fragout he is insane might be one of the best but not as a proplayer

this... People will never understand that there have to be more than just incredible aim to be a good proplayer, hes a insane gamer with some juicy aim i would see him more as a content creator than a proplayer.

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GooberBoy [#17]

KAST is an awful stat for duelists, the main downsides of stats like ACS and fk% is that its duelist favored, but if you're comparing duelists then you shouldn't use KAST. In general the duelists with high KASTs are the ones on really coordinated teams, not the duelists that are better

did you even check his kast% and others its 59% lmao and other duelist usually have more than 70%
in today's game only so many times he just went to peek when they had man advantage where nobody can trade him

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SaltyMcNulty [#13]

It's not 2019. No one knows how good sinatraa would be and Shahz's Jett style isn't viable anymore. He doesn't entry and farms on ecos with the OP. People barely peeks into OP like they used to. Lot more good initiators to move Set OPers like Shahz.

Val wasnt even out in 2019

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fardeengg [#19]

did you even check his kast% and others its 59% lmao and other duelist usually have more than 70%
in today's game only so many times he just went to peek when they had man advantage where nobody can trade him

Ya, players on bad teams don't have high KAST, even if they are good lol. He's on a tactically awful team, Kill(he is better than the average duelist at this) Assist(is never put on raze or chamber which adds to assists, plus team rarely gets a kill that isn't his) survive(on the worst team so that will happen very rarely) and Traded(on the worst trading team in NA) so of course he's bound to be lower, his kills can't carry him when he is being put on an agent that has very little assist value(which is a knock on him but he's expressed a desire to play chamber) and his team is so fundamentally bad that he can't get traded or survive.

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SaltyMcNulty
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SAMPV6 [#7]

Yeah dude, he keeps dashing into people like babybay. Bro, it's BABYBAY, not some random guy from ranked.

So, he wouldn't dash cz it's babybay? Tf you saying? Babybay went for 360 and was doing knee slides for fun. When you are a star fragger yourself why tf should you care if the opponent is babybay or cNed. Imagine if EG Jawgemo got scared cz his opponent is yay, this is a game of who has the most confidence my man.

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SaltyMcNulty [#22]

So, he wouldn't dash cz it's babybay? Tf you saying? Babybay went for 360 and was doing knee slides for fun. When you are a star fragger yourself why tf should you care if the opponent is babybay or cNed. Imagine if EG Jawgemo got scared cz his opponent is yay, this is a game of who has the most confidence my man.

It's common sense at that point, one thing is to have confidence, another one is to just make stupid plays and dash straight into someone in pro play. He literally dashed into babybay head first.

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SAMPV6 [#23]

It's common sense at that point, one thing is to have confidence, another one is to just make stupid plays and dash straight into someone in pro play. He literally dashed into babybay head first.

im pretty sure he had a callout of shahzam ulting and was asked to go aggressive i know he is aggro but he isnt that braindead aggro player

#25
Wronghand
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I'm not gonna say this much more but, Tenz needs one of two things : a team that prioritized him as a fragging duelist or to calm his jetts (pun intended) and play a chamber fragging role. There are two types of duelist and no two players fit this better than : Yay and Victor.

Yay is a chamber duelist, using his Utility to kill and keep space from the enemy. He focuses on giving his team the advantage - both in space and picks - while minimizing his first deaths with a chamber TP.

Victor is an Entry duelist, gaining spacing and getting kills on site with his own utility and his teammates. He focuses on gaining space and pressuring the enemy and killing them.

Gaining space vs Keeping space. Site kills vs Picks. Forcing advantages vs gaining passive advantages. Right now, Tenz is trying to do both
They succeed with him getting FK. Then he is forced into busting into site as an entry without removing the opponents number advantage before. He needs to commit to one. Chamber or Neon what will it be? A team that will get you onto site and help initiate site kills or a team that can do that independently, while he can work other areas for picks and space?

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SaltyMcNulty [#22]

So, he wouldn't dash cz it's babybay? Tf you saying? Babybay went for 360 and was doing knee slides for fun. When you are a star fragger yourself why tf should you care if the opponent is babybay or cNed. Imagine if EG Jawgemo got scared cz his opponent is yay, this is a game of who has the most confidence my man.

I mean 100t's strat on breeze against acend was to literally not go wherever cned was...

#27
NajibRazak
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Honestly I doubt tenz will do well even if he joins another team. Current meta for duelist is too diverse and he can only do well on jett. I can only see he can do well if he is on Perma chamber duty.

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Yepsir
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Shownu [#10]

Sinatraa is just a better player than TenZ. Overwatch Champion and actually a prodigy that lived up to the hype unlike TenZ who had to switch games to find his way into a starting roster.

Yes -12 frag
Classic tenz fan. he just say sintiraa>tenz
And this happend

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61Hiko
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GooberBoy [#21]

Ya, players on bad teams don't have high KAST, even if they are good lol. He's on a tactically awful team, Kill(he is better than the average duelist at this) Assist(is never put on raze or chamber which adds to assists, plus team rarely gets a kill that isn't his) survive(on the worst team so that will happen very rarely) and Traded(on the worst trading team in NA) so of course he's bound to be lower, his kills can't carry him when he is being put on an agent that has very little assist value(which is a knock on him but he's expressed a desire to play chamber) and his team is so fundamentally bad that he can't get traded or survive.

I don't understand, who would downvote this.
this is 100% true

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Elso
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SaltyMcNulty [#12]

Didn't even get the chance to play chamber or neon. They just put him on Jett cz they need his entries. Raze is just hard to master when your team can't set you up.

Because the only map Tenz plays Chamber is Bind which got insta banned by FaZe

#31
xD1LL4N
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Tenz doesn't have the work Ethic to be a top tier player

#32
Mattia99
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tenz overrated

#33
Zapkhiel
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Tenz only has aim

#34
noxx
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pokedyo [#26]

I mean 100t's strat on breeze against acend was to literally not go wherever cned was...

that was coz cned was oping, its not just 100t who do that and cned isnt the only player, teams used to figure out where tenz was go to to the other site on masters 1 2021 too

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NajibRazak [#27]

Honestly I doubt tenz will do well even if he joins another team. Current meta for duelist is too diverse and he can only do well on jett. I can only see he can do well if he is on Perma chamber duty.

he did yoru pretty well and he can do chamber and maybe even raze better if his team can assist him better

#36
Caliburn0723
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Bring him to a fnc or fpx, they can set the man up with a team and structure.

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GooberBoy
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61Hiko [#29]

I don't understand, who would downvote this.
this is 100% true

i mean ya not to be a dick but what I'm saying is kinda hard to refute, thats why he just downvoted me and didn't respond cuz he got emotional over a stupid subject.

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GooberBoy
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Yepsir [#28]

Yes -12 frag
Classic tenz fan. he just say sintiraa>tenz
And this happend

I mean he's wrong tho lol

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