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RIOT CONFIRMS NO REPLAY SYSTEM
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Elcatsu [#4]They don't care about replay system. They only care about making skins so they can make more money 🤑
no shit
1cameh [#18]why are people so mad about this? imo it makes the game more competitive when you cant definitively rewind every single round and see every player's perspective + individual lineups. makes the game a lot more reliant on you actually using your brain to figure out what's going on
Then how would you know how to counter those certain lineups/plays? It helps alot in the future for yourself. Rotation timings, utilities, lineups.... everything helps
JackyTan [#23]Why everyone make a big deal out of this like they actually use replay lol
what. i wanna be able to confirm my suspicions about my braindead teammates in ranked. oh and maybe some pro players will use it too i guess, not that important for pro play tho, more important for ranked really.
InXtiNct [#19]Then how would you know how to counter those certain lineups/plays? It helps alot in the future for yourself. Rotation timings, utilities, lineups.... everything helps
you wont know how to counter them, thats the point of making it more competitive. by disallowing people to essentially mold themselves solely around the playstyle of pros by watching them, this makes it slower for skill caps to rapidly increase
1cameh [#26]you wont know how to counter them, thats the point of making it more competitive. by disallowing people to essentially mold themselves solely around the playstyle of pros by watching them, this makes it slower for skill caps to rapidly increase
Where the fuck do you want the game to go to, I cant see it nor comprehend it. And plus learning how to counter it is the competitive part wtf are u on?
s1mple_valorant_killer69 [#13]league is dead now is valorant as expected from the company of envy the success of others ( Moontoon ganbatte )
League is dead, lmao? Bro, at least try to say something credible.
1cameh [#18]why are people so mad about this? imo it makes the game more competitive when you cant definitively rewind every single round and see every player's perspective + individual lineups. makes the game a lot more reliant on you actually using your brain to figure out what's going on
Your brain just melted and it's leaking through your ears
1cameh [#26]you wont know how to counter them, thats the point of making it more competitive. by disallowing people to essentially mold themselves solely around the playstyle of pros by watching them, this makes it slower for skill caps to rapidly increase
If your gameplay can be copied by one VOD review than it shows you dont have enough depth in your game. Also everyone knowing lineups would help with developing everybody's gameplay, therefore making for better matches.
InXtiNct [#28]Where the fuck do you want the game to go to, I cant see it nor comprehend it. And plus learning how to counter it is the competitive part wtf are u on?
Your logic is to make sure it becomes crystal clear how every single pro player plays every single match, every single tendency can be determined and every single lineup found with ease. How exactly is countering something you have complete information on making it a more competitive game? It makes it easier, if anything
YouDii [#31]If your gameplay can be copied by one VOD review than it shows you dont have enough depth in your game. Also everyone knowing lineups would help with developing everybody's gameplay, therefore making for better matches.
Nah- if an analyst wants to hard counter yay in their matchup, he can just watch 10 VODs of one map and figure out his tendencies and counter them specifically. Also, if you can’t take the time to make your own lineups and you need to just copy off of other pros, you clearly have a work ethic issue
1cameh [#34]Nah- if an analyst wants to hard counter yay in their matchup, he can just watch 10 VODs of one map and figure out his tendencies and counter them specifically. Also, if you can’t take the time to make your own lineups and you need to just copy off of other pros, you clearly have a work ethic issue
bruh, how is it a work ethic issue? WARDELL said that he follow Mixwell's style of oping and try to implement it to his gameplay. Sure some lineups you found yourself will be useful. But there are general lineups would be helpful. With your logic, all sovas should be at different areas aiming at different dots in the sky/wall in order to land in the same dot. Its sound 100% stupid and inefficient.
1cameh [#33]Your logic is to make sure it becomes crystal clear how every single pro player plays every single match, every single tendency can be determined and every single lineup found with ease. How exactly is countering something you have complete information on making it a more competitive game? It makes it easier, if anything
If they are that predictable theres no way these pro player would be pro players. Even with knowing the tendencies, they will not always win the duel since its a shooter game first and foremost.
InXtiNct [#36]If they are that predictable theres no way these pro player would be pro players. Even with knowing the tendencies, they will not always win the duel since its a shooter game first and foremost.
Ok, so then why do you need to watch their VODs then? If it isn't to know their tendencies, since you just said it doesn't matter that much, what is the point of watching a VOD back?
InXtiNct [#35]bruh, how is it a work ethic issue? WARDELL said that he follow Mixwell's style of oping and try to implement it to his gameplay. Sure some lineups you found yourself will be useful. But there are general lineups would be helpful. With your logic, all sovas should be at different areas aiming at different dots in the sky/wall in order to land in the same dot. Its sound 100% stupid and inefficient.
If you want general lineups, go to YouTube and find some general lineups. There's a lot everywhere. It wasn't meant to be easy to figure lineups out
I get what you're saying, that it's easier to have VODs so people can just watch where they are, but if that's the only reason to implement VODs in Valorant, that's kinda a shit reason
1cameh [#38]If you want general lineups, go to YouTube and find some general lineups. There's a lot everywhere. It wasn't meant to be easy to figure lineups out
I get what you're saying, that it's easier to have VODs so people can just watch where they are, but if that's the only reason to implement VODs in Valorant, that's kinda a shit reason
Of course there are other reason for VODS, one of them is to look at your own perspective throughout the game. Back in CS, it helped alot. At the time, I realise that sometimes I peeked abit too early before adjusting my crosshair placement. My crosshair is not accurate enough to snap to the next entry point. Those type of stuff. VODS to learn how the enemy behaves is also helpful
1cameh [#37]Ok, so then why do you need to watch their VODs then? If it isn't to know their tendencies, since you just said it doesn't matter that much, what is the point of watching a VOD back?
- To know what actually happened and how he get there
- To keep in mind how some players can act that way
InXtiNct [#39]Of course there are other reason for VODS, one of them is to look at your own perspective throughout the game. Back in CS, it helped alot. At the time, I realise that sometimes I peeked abit too early before adjusting my crosshair placement. My crosshair is not accurate enough to snap to the next entry point. Those type of stuff. VODS to learn how the enemy behaves is also helpful
Before graduating a month ago, I was captain for my university's Valorant team- we just recorded our own individual VODs to review our gameplay with a third party program. It makes sense to watch yourself back, so you can see bad tendencies, I definitely agree; but I don't know about the need to watch other teams from their perspectives. I think it makes it too easy for your strategies to get broken down and copied, but it still happens anyways
InXtiNct [#40]
- To know what actually happened and how he get there
- To keep in mind how some players can act that way
- This is a waste of time; if I'm watching a VOD back, I want to know what I can do to improve, not to worry when someone crossed to site
- This is the definition of a player's tendencies, the way they habitually act/things they do
1cameh [#43]
- This is a waste of time; if I'm watching a VOD back, I want to know what I can do to improve, not to worry when someone crossed to site
- This is the definition of a player's tendencies, the way they habitually act/things they do
Thats the point bro, how did that guy entered the site? Did I not put a trip there (if im playing cypher)? Was it my fault for not holding that angle? Or was it just pure timing?
InXtiNct [#44]Thats the point bro, how did that guy entered the site? Did I not put a trip there (if im playing cypher)? Was it my fault for not holding that angle? Or was it just pure timing?
So watch your own VOD back and extrapolate- is the trip jumpable? Could he have TPed past? Regardless, you don't need to see his POV to get useful info from it
1cameh [#45]So watch your own VOD back and extrapolate- is the trip jumpable? Could he have TPed past? Regardless, you don't need to see his POV to get useful info from it
Theres alot more than just that. Watching his own VOD can also answer some questions, like what made him push. What kind of info that made him do that. Plus my laptop cant cope with a third party app to record my gameplay. This shit helps alot
1cameh [#45]So watch your own VOD back and extrapolate- is the trip jumpable? Could he have TPed past? Regardless, you don't need to see his POV to get useful info from it
You are mentally ill please stop typing
InXtiNct [#46]Theres alot more than just that. Watching his own VOD can also answer some questions, like what made him push. What kind of info that made him do that. Plus my laptop cant cope with a third party app to record my gameplay. This shit helps alot
i dont know the reason why you need to understand why they pushed- that's their decision making. assuming your utility is set up correctly and you're watching the angle, it should not matter what they are doing- you are stopping their push, unless they use an ability to get around it. so you shouldn't care about what they're thinking. that's my perspective, everyone has a different opinion
your point about not wanting to use a third party app makes a lot of sense, imo that's the most important reason to add VODs to val
babysasuke [#51]not an argument, its a diagnosis.
get help
i hope your 2 brain cells can process this- you're contributing nothing to this conversation. your ego is in the way of you having an actual discussion as to why you disagree with me.
ill bring crayons next time you want to discuss anything so i can draw it out for you.
1cameh [#50]i hope your 2 brain cells can process this- you're contributing nothing to this conversation. your ego is in the way of you having an actual discussion as to why you disagree with me.
ill bring crayons next time you want to discuss anything so i can draw it out for you.
you need someone to help you through your trauma, please, for your own sake. you cant keep going like this.
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