Yeah one bad map doesn't make it usual dude

I don't think we've watched the same deffo LMAO

I just woke up what the fuck happened how the hell

Ok so I woke up and M3C lost to G2? What the fuck happened???

This is genuinely the only way another region will win LMFAO

I love trent and saya but realistically they lose to players like chronicle and derke the majority of times.

Yes I agree with that first part, that's why I didn't list fpx. They seem a lot more inconsistent.

After watching that Fnatic vs M3C game, I'm feeling kinda down about other regions. It really does feel like those two teams in particular are so far ahead of everyone else, and it's hard to imagine a world where a C9, Loud, Optic, Xerxia, Kru, or DRX beat them. Someone give me the copium pls, I'll need it for Reykjavik.

I loved that game too but I think the team and utility coordination of m3c and Fnatic today is so much more than the gambit and ascend of last year. Just look at that insane 6vs5 fracture retake from fnatic where they PUMMELED m3c

Yeah no way they're not qualifying.

Best match in valorant history tbh. Even though the stakes were a lot lower than some other matches, the team and individual performances were off the fucking charts. I just hope that kind of play becomes the tier 1 standard in a year or two.

I care

The best valorant I’ve ever seen in my life, this is the gold standard game.

Nah but fr. Every team needs to step up their game after watching this

Bro shaz is an incredible player in terms of mechanical ability and utility usage. His mentality on the other hand....

If tarik ever decides to grace pro valo with his presence, it will not be on TSM lmfao

Dude I'm sorry but optic have NEVER played consistently (I really wish they did). Even recently, they'll have insane peaks but then look like shit the next map (think vs V1 in groups). I'd say the most consistent NA IGL in Valo has been Vanity because he's led two different rosters to do well internationally.

M3C just get wholesome + practice buff

Deffo was great too. He was crying for Kru after that semi-final.

Oh mb abt curry but there's no way he'd beat out Xeppaa or Zellsis or even JonahP in the flex role. Just looking at T1's recent games vs very much not top tier opponents, he's mid to bottom in most. I do agree the most important part of IGLing is calling ability, but at the same time, if it's a super team, you need everyone to be able to frag and clutch. FNS isn't SO much better at calling that makes up for his inability to frag most games.

They both play Skye and Kayo. Xeppaa also plays Raze while Jonah does Sage and Omen (with like 1 viper game thrown in there). In this lineup Wippie would play the Sage and Zander would play Omen, so there's no need for those two. Saya can also play Raze, so that's covered. That means the added flexibity of both of them means nothing, so I think Xeppaa's firepower (possibly the best of any flex player in NA) makes the big difference.

Nah he’s a good IGL just not quite as good mechanically compared to someone like Zander for example

Have you considered xeppa or zellsis

The real super team is just chronicle in every role tbh

Initiator: Trent
I don’t think anything else needs to be said. Only Shaz if you don’t take a smoke igl for whatever stupid reason.

Smokes: Zander if IGL (he just edges out valyn I’d say), Skuba or Marved if not. All have great fragging and clutch potential.

Duelist: Leaf balls outta control. Cryo would also be good here.

Flex: Xeppa or Zellsis, I genuinely can’t choose between them. Incredible utility and fragging from both.

Sentinel: Wippie is too good to pass up here just look at map 2 vs Sen in playoffs. Net is super clutch but he’s just not quite consistent enough, dapr has not been great recently, and Mitch is good but not as good as wippie.

Nahhhh Zander/vayln > fns in terms of mechanical skill, Trent > xeta, I don’t mind Marved and Leaf is top tier, but I’d take Yay or Cryo over Curry any day.

I think you could also do leaf Jett, zellsis/xeppa flex

Dude before that he was one of the best hitscan players in ow (a much harder game to aim in). Look up some of his clips they’re insane.

Bro chronicle outfrags Derke on controllers and flex agents. No hate to derke, he’s absolutely one of the best Jetts out there but chronicle is different

Chronicle will at the next major tournament, trust

Saya was one of the best hitscan players in OW, it's no surprise he has cracked aim. What I'm more surprised about is his great supporting utility, probably in part because of MCE's help and the Guard's structure.

Brim is excellent in the current meta. Having no long range smokes on attack will be far more detremental to this comp.

Yeah but knights just got eliminated from VCT, same as Sen

No see Optic isn't nearly as consistent as V1 but they have moments of pure excellence. Take their game against V1 (for example), they POUNDED on Bind. 13-2 for fucks sake. Then on Haven and Icebox they got 13-5'd twice. That's the lacking consistency, and a main reason why I think they shouldn't go to masters because they're super unreliable.

I hate to break it to you but mouz isn't beating C9 or Optic when they're fired up. They'd probably beat LG or Knights though.

YORU, Neon, Phoenix, Reyna, Cypher

Bro this is what I've been saying. Skuba AND Supamen currently have no teams for VCT for a long while. Both are good pickups if Sen wants a new controller.

vroom loom room

It's really annoying yeah. Hard to find people with common sense around here, but they exist

No it's not even just individually, they played better as a team. I do think they need to at least consider replacements for zombs though (I mean Skuba and Supamen are right there without a VCT team to play on.....)

Bruh Sinatraa isn't better than tenz plus they don't want him

Nah they actually looked pretty good in this last series. If they bring this to the table again (and get better), they could definitly be good again.

What were you saying?

This isn't gonna go as well imo

Gonna be real rn, Sen have not looked better than V1 on fracture. I bet V1 wins this.

He's never had bad Sova util or fragging ability. Always been a top tier player for Sen.

Sen are just finally setting him up, thank fuck

TL has not been looking amazing this qualifier. We'll see if that gets turned around.

I wouldn't take scream over derke. His agent pool is a bit too limited I think, even with the changes liquid have been making.

My pickems are in shambles