Bruh we haven't seen Sinatraa play since 1845 AD

I personally think TariksLeftNut was looking phenomenal out there

TGRD played literally the worst possible team for them in elims. Playing against a team as aggressive as PRX when you’re a bunch of nervous kids in your first lan is never gonna go well.

Sry too obvious but I appreciate the effort

Eh they're looking shaky against PUGSTARS. Unless their coordination gets a exponentially better, they're not doing anything internationally.

I don't think LG's on the same level. Yes I know they beat V1 but that was when V1 played worse than I've ever seen em.

Lol

Honestly V1 should be considred Tier 1 they looked SO much better than XSet.

It's really not among top teams anymore. Look at Yay/Vanity/Leaf/Zander/Cryo for example.

He'll let me tho I'm just different

I'd say V1 and Sen in the uppers and two of Ghosts, Knights, LG, 100T, or NRG in the lowers.

Zeta's a fantastic team idk what you're trying to imply

Honestly Crashies seems like the only potentially replacable one and he's still an incredible player

Alt acc moment

Scream isn't miles ahead of yay wtf are you talking about. Yay's an opper, Scream's a rifler, and I'd argue their rifling is comparable.

Factual

With V1, C9, TGRD, and Optic in the mix ain't no way

Exactly they were not consistent but they’ve improved even more

Yo same. They’re so stuck in the past.

Optic isn’t always consistent. Look at optic vs rise and optic vs Xerxia. But when it matters they step up.

Literally the opposite of Tenz

This might be a new record for downvotes

Alright this has to be a bait. I've personally really loved seeing Zeta, PRX, and Loud do well, but that doesn't change the fact that the other teams in their regions aren't nearly as competitive. It makes sense to give the slots in a way so they'll be the best teams possible, and giving MENA and Japan an extra slot over NA won't do that. Also idk how you're saying NA valorant is overrated if an NA team is top 3 in a tournament (better than APAC, Korea, and EMEA).

Bruh how? Is this bc a NA team lost in a final of a masters event??

Not in terms of mechanics but vanity and fns have much better calls

Cap

LMFAOOO WHAT??

As loud is obviously the best team in the world they will win this event and SMASH optic and awful NA.
As loud is obviously the best team in the world they will win this event and SMASH optic and awful NA.
As loud is obviously the best team in the world they will win this event and SMASH optic and awful NA.

Who tf is sen kez

Dw Zombs will go to brazil and join a new team with Mwzera specifically for Trembo

They have so little time tbh, I don't think it's enough to turn an entire team culture around plus I haven't seen any indication that they really WANT to do that.

Yup I've been saying this since January, and I've seen absolutely 0 evidence of it happening.

Hot take: Dephh is not a really good IGL. At best he's decent, and decent frankly isn't good enough anymore. You need a Vanity, a Zander, or an FNS like IGL to suceed at Tier 1 in NA, by which I mean get to masters.

With Zander, who's arguably not as good of a leader as the other two, he still makes good calls most of the time, and he's very very good at fragging which is rare for a NA IGL. FNS on the other hand is so insanely good at midrounding and antistrating that his lackluster fragging isn't a massive detrement, and Vanity is just incredible at teambuilding, look at what he did for V1 and C9. These IGLs all provide a certain spark to their teams which is missing from XSET, and it's really obvious when they play a truly top team.

Yay every day. Tenz peak is way too inconsistent plus I honestly think Yay matches Tenz's peak with his normal LAN performance.

Leaf is not better than Yay on the agents both play. Leaf does play more agents than Yay tho which makes him valuable. His Raze is especially good.

I really doubt that. It's not age or experience that's the problem, it's that they're not adaptable, they don't have a deep map pool or good set plays, and they're midrounding is super lackluster. All of those traits don't really matter when facing the majority of other NA teams, but they're really detremental against the real top teams in NA, and if they somehow made it to masters, in the world.

S: Optic, Guard, C9, V1
A: XSet, NRG, Knights
B: Sen, 100T, LG

Hard disagree, Cryo might be the best player out of both teams, but V1 has much better fundamentals and teamplay, plus I think their midrounding is really good unlike XSET.

I think they're A tier if you have NRG there tbh

Honestly I say put XSET in A tier. They’ve never beaten any of the other teams there with their current roster.

This is honestly perfect. I’d like to mention Yay solidified himself as probably the best NA duelist this masters event and is absolutely cracked. Also XSet are just lacking that spark which will let them beat top teams. TGRD, Optic, C9, and V1 have it. Two of those teams are going home though so it’ll be tense to see who!

Sentinels will not qualify. The only ones in contention are Optic (by far the best na team internationally rn), C9, V1, and TGRD. Two of those teams won’t make it though.

No way you give another slot to Japan before NA. NA has at least 4 top competitive teams (Optic, TGRD, C9, and V1), Japan has 2 at best (Zeta + CR). That being said, although Zeta were able to improve incredibly and I'm super excited for their run, that doesn't mean CR will also be a lot better. Also a China/India/MENA team would need to be tier 1 first, and none of them are yet.

NRG is patently hilarious. I think V1 is very good but we’ll see if they can beat two of C9, TGRD, and Optic. I personally want TGRD to make it so they can prove themselves on lan but who knows if they’ll be able to qualify. That’s the problem with such limited teams.

Imagine not having yay or aspas

Xeppaa exists and so does Zellsis.

Plausible but honestly could go ANY way. I'm super hyped.

I've been saying this all over the thread but MASSIVE agree on the Outer Wilds. It's the best game ever made imo.

Yes please do! I love to talk about that game

Or slow for much less time. His slows last fucking forever.