Deadass I think with time the original c9 roster would look nearly as good. Yay is undoubtably good enough. They just weren’t given that time lmfao
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Deadass I think with time the original c9 roster would look nearly as good. Yay is undoubtably good enough. They just weren’t given that time lmfao
That’s what I’ve been saying since the guard days. He’s the goat coach.
I’d say NRG are better than Lev because of their flexibility and adaptability; otherwise W ranking
Sadly for Babysauske, trembo owns this site
Zidmz owns me, dude still has guard flair
Nutab1e owns him sadly
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Someone explain pls :)
Xeppaa - stinger
nAts - the og phantom goat
It was a bad bait but ty for easy upvotes :)
Bro doesn't understand how bad teams make good players look worse LOL
Bro he’s not here to have an educated analytical opinion, he’s here to hype up his team to fans and enjoy himself and his team’s achievements. That means lots of delusion.
My god 9k in two rounds w a 4k and an ace
Zyppan is not the best Kayo worldwide imo. Chronicle, Buzz, and Xeppaa are equally as good, and in past metas players like Crashies and Trexx have been better. But you're right about the controller part, I talked about that more in depth here https://www.vlr.gg/208972/the-best-and-worst-roles-for-each-region/
Leaf + Aspas + Derke + Leo would like a word
Me: C9
Zekken’s cracked, his team’s just dysfunctional
Yeah I bet it’d be pancada and they’ll say it’s bc of “communication issues”. Sentinels are so fucked, the management makes me so mad. I feel for the players though, and I wish the best for zekken, sacy, pancada, Marved, and tenz
“Communication problems”
Gonna be like xeta all over again 😭
I will never stop responding to my bait goat
Ok but like, wyatt and bren are also goated. Avast is funny af too. Those berlin and champs couch costreams were one of a kind content.
They're so fucking good. Honestly the only podcast I've ever consistently watched, and the funniest group of valo creators around rn imo.
It makes sense to keep him on senti bc NA has so few good dedicated senti players, but I do think he’d make a good igl or at least secondary caller.
I just put them in order of stats. He’s only second to Mako in the rankings.
Thank you Nachtel!
kiNgg is literally ranked 2nd in all of Americas, and he’s proven himself at a bunch of LAN events. Tuyz isn’t even looking like a top 8 controller in Americas rn, that’s how stacked it is.
It’s really just statistics from this year. I explained this above w archetype, but basically since I’m not counting anything igl related, he hasn’t been good enough to justify that status.
For initiators, I’d say the greatest concentration contenders is in Americas but the best two are in EMEA (Leo and Shao) rn. In Americas, Crashies is the only WORLDCLASS player I counted, but Xeppaa, Runi, Nzr, cauanzin, and zekken (when he’s playing them) all have the ability to make that top tier of player on initiators. I also think Sacy and Mwzera ARE WORLDCLASS players already, but they didn’t make the top 25 by vlr rating bc rough team performances recently.
Buzz hasn’t touched duelists since this season began (aside from one map on raze). Thus I didn’t consider him a duelist and instead called him KJ/Kayo flex.
Yeah I mean he’s literally just a viper main but in the current meta I’d call that secondary controller. Some of these players were really hard to place (like sheydos/trexx/leaf/zellsis, etc). I usually differentiated them by pure flex/duelist flex, and if they used to main a certain role, I kept them in it, that’s why crashies is still initiator and Victor is still duelist despite all the flexing NRG has been doing recently.
I did not factor in IGLing at all, hence why Saadhak and FNS weren't considered WORLDCLASS. It's not good practice to give guys like Stax an exception without doing that for everyone. Even if Stax is the best player itw mechanically when he's not IGLing, I can't consider that for this list.
F0rsaken is still playing duelist every once and a while, and Foxy9 isn't worthy of being called top tier when he's never played on an international stage. The only guy I call WORLDCLASS who hasn't proven himself on LAN internationally is Something and that's just bc his numbers are unignorably insane. After Foxy9 dominates on LAN, then I'll promote him.
Jogular moment