i don’t see how this roster is worse than c9 or 100t on paper, only reason people are so negative is because it’s eg

my argument is that he wasn't the 2nd best player on eg at tokyo, not that he played bad

https://www.vlr.gg/220297/fut-esports-vs-evil-geniuses-champions-tour-2023-masters-tokyo-opening-b
https://www.vlr.gg/220444/loud-vs-evil-geniuses-champions-tour-2023-masters-tokyo-ubqf
https://www.vlr.gg/220446/team-liquid-vs-evil-geniuses-champions-tour-2023-masters-tokyo-ubsf
https://www.vlr.gg/220447/fnatic-vs-evil-geniuses-champions-tour-2023-masters-tokyo-ubf

like I said, he woke up for the bo5s and the rest of the team played bad in grand finals but for pretty much all the matches they actually won or came close to winning he was not their best or 2nd best player, idk why you even feel the need to pretend otherwise when anyone who actually watched those matches knows it's bullshit

boostio, jawg and ethan all cleared him at tokyo, he only really woke up by the lower final. Look at his stats vs fut, liquid and the first fnc match

imagine if derrek suddenly becomes good on eg, would be the funniest shit

almost like there was another big tournament after this one where loud exposed a huge weakness of this lotus comp that fnc couldn't adapt to (watch sliggy's vod for more info on how they exploit it) while eg had a 100% winrate on the map in the same event with an average scoreline of 13-6

flair

is c0m going to lev confirmed not happening? I thought it was still up in the air

yeah fair enough

for your lotus point, yes fnc lost because they got antistratted but that means their weaknesses on that map were shown to everyone. It's not like it's a quick fix on their end either, the comp got completely exposed (mainly how with no flash they can't fight A properly, sliggy explained this you can watch his vod). With that in mind I can't agree until we see them play it again, especially since EG were 3-0 on lotus at champs with a 13-6 average scoreline

sen fans get 1 off season win and become worse than navi flairs

If we ignore off-season shit and just look at it post-champs I'd say
ASCENT: EG
BIND: PRX
BREEZE: idk
FRACTURE: EG
HAVEN: LOUD
ICEBOX: FNC
LOTUS: EG
PEARL: PRX
SPLIT: LOUD
SUNSET: idk

jingg should be there too ofc, just listing 2 omissions from the team that literally won champs

idk when the narrative around eg changed to it being demon1 and friends but anyone who actually believes ethan and c0m weren't top 20 players this year either didn't watch tokyo and champs or is just braindead

I think this guy just forgot champs happened