Jamppi - Piano
at least he was practicing and was already pretty good

I don't think Carlos is bad owner. Yeah he fucked up with this one, but if you look at G2's positions as esport org. Its pretty fucking good. I think he has done pretty good job with it. Obviously outside G2's success I have always been bit uncertain about Carlos. For me he comes out as arrogant and kind of asshole. That is the vibes he is giving me in interviews etc. That is part of G2's brand, but even still I feel like he might not be that nice of a person. And feels really cocky and high of himself. And some of the decision he has done with G2 has been good from orgs/finances point of view, but when it comes to listening to players and trying to make their life nice it feels bit shitty. Like when Perkz was forced to relocate to NA because G2 asked so much money and didn't want him to stay in EU. While you have orgs like Team Liquid who just let Han Sama go for free (to what I know).

Good, but not that good for Worlds song. Also video was really mid and forgettable.

Pretty good but lacks hype tbh. Also music video is ok, but idk feels really messy. Or at least I have problem following the storyline. Same with song tbh it kind of sounds like mixture of 2 songs.

Please no. No full Spanish speaking teams or full French speaking teams.

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-Enzo (unless they value him as secondary IGL)
-Mistic
+Leo
+hoody

How is he perfect fit when he doesn't even fit in role wise? People seem to forget that Alfajer is their sentinel player. So unless they change him to full flex/duelist role it wouldn't make sense.

You know game is good when they don't have to update it every month

Hard to say because we don't know what these orgs want from their rosters. Only 2 who in my opinion 100% deserved to be in this league are nukkye and hoody. Nukkye is super star level player who will new team with ease unless he gets trapped in contract jail. And even then someone from NA would likely buy him out. And hoody has shown that he is good flex player even if he didn't have the best LCQ. I think Meddo and Avova are just so inconsistent that I can't say for sure will they find a team in tier 1. And I just don't believe in Mixwell even tho he will likely find team in KOI or Heretics.

Makes sense I guess. He has been the face of Giants Valorant for some time by being Spanish. Even when Giants qualified for EMEA VCT. I haven't seen his recent games, so can't say much but at least he used to be promising Jett player with good OP skills. So I think all in all he should do fine. Only question is that will some more proven player in his role get shafted to tier 2 because Giants decided to stick with him. I mean its fine and hopefully he will do good!

Representation is nice and everything, but realistically MENA team would have been a wasted spot. Falcons did pretty well against tier 2 teams but that's it.

Only reason why I'm not too excited of them adding 2 Turkish teams is that Turkish teams are the most likely to stay with full Turkish rosters like in the past and that might bring the competitiveness down and take spots from players who actually deserved them more. Don't get me wrong all in all BBL has been doing pretty well in EMEA and FUT has done well in VRLs, but I just don't know how long they can keep up with player rotations. Full single nationality teams have even became more and more irrelevant in CSGO out of any games. In long term it can cause issues.

Turkey has big fanbase and playerbase so its not end of the world and understandable from Riot, but its bit ehh especially when you also had orgs like BIG.

At least we didn't get fucked as hard as NA

fuck seems like FUT made it... 2 full Turkish teams in 10 team league smh

I don't think its been confirmed yet. Last time I checked it just said they are the most likely team but not confirmed. Could have changed tho.

fuck for second I thought FPX could be getting the 10th EMEA spot. But damn will FPX likely make money from this. Sell as whole (prop too expensive) or just sell one by one. All of them are arguably top 5 in their roles (outside of Zyppan maybe, but he really stepped up for Champions).

MAD Lions or BIG first that comes to mind. Unless G2 is begging to get in and Riot decides to let them into EMEA aka their 2nd option. Unlikely, but if you really want to create EU league with big potential you want to include G2. No matter what Carlos did. Also OG or Excel could make it.

I just wonder why last EMEA spot isn't leaked yet to begin with? The problem with last NA spot was that G2 was supposed to get in, but got denied last second. But G2 wasn't even supposed to get into EMEA, so why there seems to be problems with last EMEA spot as well? Like are they still thinking should they let G2 into EMEA instead or what.

Maybe they just lack infrastructure in NA. Their offices etc are in Korea and from Riot's perspective much rather let T1 into Korean league to possibly increase the interest of Valorant esport among Koreans. They have way more to gain by doing this.

True, but Cender is more like sentinel main. He plays Chamber, but isn't really a duelist. I think Vitality will make a lot of changes to their rosters because they are big money org. For example I'm predicting that nAts is joining Team Vitality as replacement for Cender.

BBL would be my guess.
Fnatic has Derke
Liquid has Jamppi/Scream
KOI maybe goes with Mixwell(hope not) - not sure
Giants will maybe stick with Fit1nho - not sure
NaVi has 7ssk7

that leaves Vitality, KCorp, Heretics, BBL + 1 maybe FUT

and players like Sayf, Ardiis, Chronicle(role?) are going to be looking for teams if the orgs allow them. That doesn't leave many options tbh. cNed stonks kind of went down because of Chamber.

What is happening with EMEA and NA 10th spots? All others are leaked but there seems to be confusion of the last spots. In NA its likely because of G2 situation, but that seems to be the thing in EMEA as well.

Is Boo the IGL of OGLU? Didn't know, but if he is that would be good signing for some team. OGLU's structure and teamwork has always been really good and Boo is decent as individual.

Also Koldamenta will likely be on the market.

I wish they signed hoody. He would be perfect replacement for Mistic IMO.

good but what the fuck is happening today so much drama

Yeah many good rosters getting split in both regions.

True. I'm scared same will happen in EMEA as well.

Hopefully FUT won't make it. Because Turkish teams if any want to stay full Turkish so it limits the changes of non-Turkish players if 2/10 are like that. No single nationally teams please. Unless its like 1 Turkish team and maybe Russian team because at least they have enough good players.

Nah its likely just "the time has come, execute order 66" and all Jedis die. Same as what is now happening in Valorant with orgs being eliminated from franchising and teams exploding.

Both KRU and Leviatan are better than #2 and #3 from Brazil. And likely better than #4 and #5 NA and could even take on NA #3.

I mentioned 5, but wasn't really talking about Vitality. Mainly meant other 4. Giants also has English Twitter, but don't know about KCorp, Heretics and KOI.

Yes they have English account, but it is not the main account. And usually main accounts are more active and get all the big announcements etc. first. Main posts.
And I'm sorry but Kiles doesn't deserve tier 1 spot unless Giants wants to keep him that is okay in my opinion. If he gets in its just bias. Fitinho has showed potential, but knowing how many free agents there will be I don't really see him landing a spot unless he stays with Giants and I think that would be okay. And for Mixwell he can only compete with Chamber and that's it even if he has had some good maps. Any team signing him makes mistake IMO outside of clout. And that leaves Koldamenta who 100% deserves spot in tier 1. And this is no hate to Spanish players, just how I feel about these individuals based on what I've seen.

Isn't it fucking crazy that 9/10 EMEA teams have been leaked so far, but not single one of them is G2. Like what the fuck. Even if you ignore all the recent drama.

Random thought: Maybe they intentionally leaked most of teams to create hype, but didn't leak G2 just so people would be confused of their status and it would create even more excitement and interest. Because so far it seems that all the leakers are confident about the others, but don't seem to have any info of G2. They get this information from somewhere right, most likely someone working for Riot? But still don't know last spots. Might just be because whole Carlos thing and that might have slowed things between Riot and G2.

I'm fine with 2 Spanish and 2 French orgs, but 3? I don't know about that. It shouldn't matter too much if these orgs actually get competitive international teams and don't just let mediocre players through because of their nationalities. Only Spanish player that comes to my mind worthy of tier 1 is Koldamenta. I said it. Only problem is that most of these 5 teams use Spanish or French as their language in main social medias so its going to be ass to follow it as non-French or Spanish viewer.

If Riot let's G2 to NA I don't know what is happening. So many orgs in NA still and G2 has been the EU org for long time. Letting them into NA wouldn't make any sense unless Riot wants to make NA the main region. Because G2 is still one of the biggest esport orgs in the world. And if they don't make any league then what the fuck happened. Whole Carlos & Tate thing wouldn't have mattered because it just happened.

Yes, but I doubt they would enter next year with this 5. My predictions is that they are going to replace most of it. Also its nAts we are talking about here. Even tho Cender had good season in VRLs still any team would replace him with nAts if they got the chance. Vitality clearly has the money to bid.

Seems good, but please do something with B long. Its so bad atm.

Will is the president of Valorant Gaming

Bro there's nothing creepy about it. You can just open his stream and VODs and see everything. I'm not stalking him just pointing out that he isn't in Paris just for vacation. This is not personal. Just professional player with public information. I'm just speculating in what team he is joining. Normal in sports and esports. No harm intended.

Cender role wise. Cender was good Chamber player in VRLs and pretty good sentinel. But in reality any team that could get nAts would pretty much replace anyone with him. Especially if the player isn't proven in high tier 1. My prediction is that they will be keeping BONECOLD and maybe baddyG but get rid of Cender, H1ber and Natank. Natank might stay if they want to keep French representation and see potential in him. Cender was one of their stronger if not the strongest player, but again its nAts.

That is interesting. Also its likely that Vitality would be keeping BONECOLD even if they did other changes. Also something I noticed that both BONECOLD and baddyG tweeted their Vitality NFT(?) project profile pictures yesterday while both H1ber and Cender(their current sentinel) haven't posted anything Vitality related in a while. This could be completely unrelated and BONECOLD/baddyG seem to be more active in socials anyway and they might just be on vacation. But again small thing that could be linked.

Its interesting and fun. Some really obvious points but still. Back in OW days I predicted couple player signings no one else did (even the leakers) based on really small stuff I noticed on their streams and socials. He may or may not join Vitality, but I think some of these points point that Vitality might be the reason he is in Paris.

Its possible. But again something that I noticed:

• nAts setup doesn't give any hints for the location. Team Liquid has their European HQ that looks nothing like the room nAts is in. And on top of that Liquid has apartment rooms for their players that are bootcamping there. But to my memory those rooms have white walls for what I've seen, but in nAts case the walls seem to be slightly greenish. That is why it looks bit like his own setup. So why would Liquid put him in another hotel room or somewhere else if they already have own apartments for the players? Unless they are full, but I doubt it. Their Valorant team isn't bootcamping atm and their CSGO team is in Malta. It could also just be the camera that makes the wall appear bit different shade of color.
• Liquid is using Alienware monitors in their HQ and in apartment rooms I would imagine because of sponsor. But in nAts case its clear that the monitor he is using is from Zowie. You can tell by the design and greyish color. Team Vitality Valorant at least uses Zowie monitors and you can see this by inspecting the victory moment of Team Vitality vs MAD Lions French VRL finals. They are likely using Zowie XL2546 based on that. nAts also uses Zowie monitors, but again he clearly isn't home. If it was Liquid they would have likely given him Alienware monitor.
• And again Liquid is located in Netherlands. Its fast to take a flight or a train there tho.

nAts is streaming right now and something I noticed:

• He seems to be playing on new setup. Walls seem to be same color as his own setup, but did he have the time to return to home and change desk position?
• He also has a new chair. The shape of it is different. Its also covered with a blanket meaning that they are likely trying to hide team branding. Based on the shape it seems like the chair is from Secretlab. Team Vitality is sponsored by Secretlab(like many tbf) while KCorp for example isn't. And Vitality has their own branded Secretlab chair.
• He is also playing Frankfurt servers with <20 ping while in his actual setup he has <60 ping based on 2 games I checked on his stream.
• He has confirmed that he is in Paris because of the IG picture.

so if he was there just for vacation, why would they have a setup ready for him? Everything points out that he is going to spend more than couple of days there. Its early, but maybe team like Vitality wanted to build a team with him being in the lead or already trialing new players. Just speculation because its interesting.

No harm intended, just speculation. Do not go and harass the player with questions or comments. That wasn't the point

It doesn't matter what they are known for in esport. Its founded by Ibai and Gerard Pique. The fact that they already have 617 000 followers on Twitter while being established in December of 2021 already shows that. Also KOI matches usually get some of the highest viewerships in tier 2 LoL and Valorant. And they are joining LEC (LoL EU tier 1) next year by merging with Rogue. Org like Guild isn't much next to them. Just fact even if its sad.

Because Riot wants EMEA teams to represent different countries/areas in EMEA. We already have 2 French orgs, 2 Spanish orgs, at least 1 Turkish org, Fnatic that kind of represents Nordics/UK, Liquid that is Liquid, and NaVi that represents CIS/Eastern EU I would imagine. So now only big area that doesn't have clear representators is Dach area (Germany, Switzerland, Austria). And even tho Germany might not be huge in Valorant they are still the biggest country in Europe in terms of population outside of Russia. And EMEA will also be hosted in Berlin, so adding clear German org would make sense. Especially if G2 doesn't make it for some reason.

I agree, but realistically Heretics, KOI, Vitality and KCorp all have way more potential or are bigger already. Many of those orgs you mentioned are relatively small compared to some of the big orgs here or lack proper fanbase. And are usually only known for like 1 game. ENCE most known from CSGO and even still they aren't that popular, especially after they went international. Heroic kind of same to my understanding. They are big in CSGO, but still far less popular than teams like Astralis. Guild isn't that known and are mainly known from Rocket League, Fortinite and Valorant if I'm not wrong. And Alliance is pretty known, but again I don't know how much of that is outside of Dota2(?).

Just looking at Twitter followers that obviously isn't everything (main Twitter accounts:
Heretics - 1 million
KOI - 617k (backed by one of the biggest Twitch streamers, hosts events etc)
Vitality - 680k (have crazy dedicated fanbase)
KCorp - 362k (backed by biggest French streamer? and also hosts events)

Heroic - 84k
Alliance - 255k
ENCE - 96k
Guild - 122k

so even based on those its clear that Heretics, KOI, Vitality and KCorp are higher on list for Riot.
And Fnatic is already representing VRL Polaris (Nordics + UK) in a way by being UK org. And the population of Scandinavia/Nordics is low and even the popularity of Valorant is relatively low. Just look at VRL Polaris viewerships compared to French or Spanish for example.

So I think its understandable and ok. Just need to hope that these orgs actually get international rosters with best possible players instead of investing too much into their represented countries and being biased by nationalities.

We will see. Falcons did fine in tier 2 VRLs, but giving one slot to them in 10 team league would feel like wasted spot if I'm honest.

I mean yeah, but if you look at any franchising league you know that there's always teams that will have way lower budget compared to others. And in Valorant I don't think Vitality will be that team. They are usually one of the highest budget teams. But I'm not sure about KCorp and how much money they are willing to spend. So in my head Vitality makes more sense unless its non-French org.

Also something that I've noticed that might be completely unrelated, but both BONECOLD and baddyG tweeted their Vitality NFT(?) profile pictures and natank being the only french tweeted that he was going to stream with eyes emoji. While there hasn't been anything from H1ber or Cender yet. And again it might be completely unrelated just that they haven't been on socials, but something I noticed. Guy like nAts would replace Cender.

Hmm interesting. KCorp and Vitality will be the French teams. W

We know that Vitality has money to spend. They already signed guys like BONECOLD, baddyG, bought H1ber from KOI so its clear that they are ready to invest some money in Valorant (not the most expensive players, but this was their tier 2 team and big names for that). They clearly wanted to win French VRL with these signings and did it.
Also in LoL they signed both Perkz and Alphari from NA with high buyout I would imagine. Also signed Carzzy that maybe isn't top player, but was still on EU's best team before Vitality. Again showing that they want to win and are ready to spend.
And in CSGO they obviously have guys like Zywoo who is one of the best players in the world. Also signed Zonic, Dupreeh and Magisk that again are pretty pricy. Showing that they want to win and are ready to spend.

Can't say anything about KCorp because I don't know about their teams as much or finances etc. They signed Rekkless to play for their tier 2 LoL team so I would imagine them having some money.

Those are just my thoughts, but could just be bait. And maybe as someone said he could be going to Netherlands for Liquid or who knows even if let's say some NA team decided to fly him to Paris and meet and sign contracts there while baiting everyone. Its big signing afterall.

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