nah, sunset should have never been that close, sen shouldve had it in the bag they let them stick the spike twice and lost both pistols and forced after 1st pistol round loss

let's try and beat regional teams first yea?

we dont claim this bum

im confident enough to say that they have chances but it just feels like they are backed up against the wall rn, its gonna take a lot to win this one

Curious to know what y'all think the chances for SEN are in this matchup, they are quite obviously the underdogs and are slightly expected to lose but still I think its higher than what most people are making it seem like, I think SEN has a 40% chance of winning and even if they don't win I'm sure they can put up a decent showing, the only problem here is that the anti-strating could dismantle SEN unless they change everything up which is very unlikely but even then it'll be fun to watch 2 teams who have their fundamentals done right

he's like steel if steel was unfunny and even more annoying to listen to

thats not the flex u think it is fam

u have to be good for once in ur life to be washed bro lmfaoo

ur gold 1 fam, ur terrible

ben tenz

i dont mean the literal retake setups, the util combo and a few new things will definitely catch them off guard but its not game changing or anything, a timeout could fix all of that

i was really impressed with tenz comms tho, he was lowkey calling pretty impressive stuff in their new comms video but cryo is like jimmy he only talks when he has to which is also required because if u have 5 talkative people then comms would get all messed up and shit

he was a really good flex player and the only reason he is having to play entry role rn is because cryo couldnt but they have fixed all their role issues and if they can fix a little bit of their spacing, trading and a few other fundamentals this team can compete with the best in the world, like cmon fam we all thought they were gonna get shit on and they were few rounds away from beating lev and if they get asuna back to his normal form this team will do damage

acting as if those arent fixable issues, tenz used to be shit on duelist at times too and now look at him, sometimes a team has issues with setting up their duelist (especially raze maps) and it makes the player look bad, asuna used to be good at raze and he can most definitely bounce back if they fix their spacing issues (he tends to be ahead of the pack which throws everyone off) fix that and asuna wll be good

his comms are fine and does provide value to the team but its the way he does it thats the problem

SEN do have a chance to win this and its not that low either but its just that NRG just have too many vods on SEN and SEN have barely anything on NRG

it would be a massive fumble to take tenz off from yoru well because they quite literally have the best bind yoru player

they dont really use tenz tp to take space, they crunch showers during defense a lot and push b long a lot too, gekko flash combined with yoru flashes can be really dangerous it is basically like their sunset comp with gekko and kayo but instead of kayo we have yoru here, it can definitely work but a lot of adjustments and new protocols will be required for them to be solid

ok now i understand ur just baiting lmfaoo actual delusion if u arent baiting

most of it comes down to fundamentals like u watch sen play maps like split and then u watch any other emea team other than fnatic and navi and it feels very weird, they have a lot of set strats and very cool gimmicky rounds but apart from that the team play and cohesion is just lacking which is not surprising because most of the rosters in emea are built from the ground up (again other than fnc and navi) and this also affects the midrounding coz most of the igls are rookies and they seem very inexperienced (making very readable and basic calls, not bad ones but yea) but i do believe heretics can be really good with a little bit more time and that goes for most of emea due to the new formation of rosters and most of the teams lack identity for example sen are really good at retakes meanwhile nrg are really good controlling the pace and defaulting properly and loud have godlike mid rounding with that being said a lot of the teams show glimpses of promise like vitality and kc and heretics and with enough time they can be contenders but rn americas clears

he said koi (and heretics) lmfaoooooooo, trust me here americas top 3 clears every other team in every other region other than fnatic (and maybe navi) and I'm not even american

edit : but i do agree that sen need to beat nrg to prove that they can beat anyone no matter who they are against

its not even them saving strats, it just felt like lazy valorant just contacting everywhere and playing way too textbook and they never did any set strats everything felt very on the fly

moca jinx is real

their breeze and bind are super easy to read and can be picked up apart with enough time (u have to consider the afreeca vods too coz they are doing the same things a lot of the time) they didnt show lotus and sunset and thats their only way to win this game but NRG will prolly ban one of these maps

their comps are gonna remain the same but they will most likely have a lot of set strats and retake/post plant shit that will catch everyone on sen off guard

surely we have a different bind comp or ascent comp RIGHT???

This is over for SEN like NRG hasn't shown anything meanwhile SEN played all their maps and showed most of their strats but John did say they were trying to show much in the playins but even then the only way they win is if somehow this isnt their actual comps and they just show up with completely new comps on some of the maps but NRG wins this 60% of the time

there are actual people here saying g2 are better than sen coz they lost this meaningless match

if this match mattered like the first map did, this wouldve BEEN over a while ago

what lmfaoooo theres no way we take this shit seriously right like surelyy not

very tough as u can tell from the players, zekken crying tenz throwing up but its fine we will be back stronger #SENFIGHTING

he said "stand up now" then went onto lose every single attack round lmfaoo

bro they are GENUINELY getting hyped over wiining rounds and getting upset if they lose rounds lmfaoooo

bro the coach looks genuinely stressed about a game that doesnt matter lmfaooo meanwhile zekken and kaplan are giggling after throwing away rounds

like he could go triple negative for the rest of the year but he will make SURE that he drops 30 on every map against sen, its the same with derrek

yes they do, they are better than g2 and mibr and eg too

we might see sen sunset for the first time (after afreeca) but im worried they might be a little shaky on it whereas g2 look pretty solid, sen still could lose (to g2) because idk man whenever trent plays sen he goes from average to the absolute best player in the world then remains mediocre the entire rest of the year

drx are not that strong rn, the new additions are good interms of shooting back but they are just not solid like the old players yet their util is subpar when it comes to timing and when to use certain stuff and their protocols seem very different from when they had the old roster, id say drx is middle of the pack rn in pacifc

I mean im just looking at it from map to map view and I was only impressed with t1's lotus other than that they seemed to have a lot of holes and moments where they looked lost but yes it is closer than what i am trying to make it seem like

i heard people saying t1 would win against gen g yesterday if they got matched up but other than lotus gen g would absolutely dismantle t1 like its not even close

they couldnt do anything more like coz gen g were just better

their ascent looked better than lev's (against LOUD, without any vods btw) and bind is a toss up SEN were one of the best bind teams coming into vct and idt 1 loss to 100t should take away from that fact but with that being said lev do have a higher chance of winning this matchup. SEN has a strong lotus and sunset and split too and if these maps are in the pool then they should be favored but then aspas could just have one of those games and shoot everyone

zeta has the firepower rn but goddamn watching the new players play sova and kayo was annoying, they were constantly missing timings with their dart/knife ALL the time, one round were the kayo had knife there was 20 seconds left and if he used his knife it couldve stopped the attackers but he decides to just hold angle and the same thing happened with the sova on the next round lmfaoo but they both managed to get two, if they just get better with util zeta can be top 3 in pacific during the season (and dont get me started on their icebox gameplan)

yea but it doesnt feel like prx/drx will dominate the rest, other teams have a chance now but the bad thing is pacific looks very weak compared to americas

pacific is a toss up now, idt there is a definite top team rn

they couldnt constantly get info towards long or outside hookah which they used to do a lot before, which is why I think gekko could be a good replacement

ikr nobody gets as much hate as TenZ regardless of how he performs

100T also won a thrifty round and add that with the 2 1v3s (which were swing rounds btw), SEN were fumbling, it should have been wayyy cleaner
and yeah 100T can definitely improve with more time, Asuna wasnt as bad people were saying he just got shutdown which happens unfortunately, this team is starting to look more and more like EG from last year

This match delivered but why do people think this was a really close match? both teams dismantled their map picks but when it comes to bind SEN lost 2 1v3s and sure you can say that SEN won that thrifty but even then it wasnt that close especially when u consider the LEV vs 100T game (this one was actually close)

Also, SEN would really benefit from changing their bind comp from skye to gekko or smthng its getting very readable like TenZ solo pushes shower every round on attack and farms the orb and on defense he has tps set so he can lurk, if the enemy team just takes ct after planting spike then its over for SEN and their long push is very readable now and just doesnt work especially if the other team has gekko

that is bullshit, tenz omen on the split was the reason they won a lot of crucial swing rounds which led them to string together a few rounds, its just map pick troll and fixable small mistakes and saadhak just having godly calls