At least Gen.G choked the GF. DRX can't even get there as they choke at 5-6th

Both Navi and Heretics can't make it

Funny reading this now that its been 3 splits in a row where all the Korean teams made top 4 in Pacific

Its karma for SEA saying they will own Korea when franchising starts when in reality SEA is the one team region

Bump

They scrim China and tier 2 teams

I think TLN is just accusing T1. ban seems to be still on good terms with Munchkin, so not Gen.G. And DRX doesn't even scrim the Pacific teams so there's nothing to leak

I think TLN is just accusing T1. ban seems to be still on good terms with Munchkin, so not Gen.G. And DRX doesn't even scrim the Pacific teams so there's nothing to leak

Not like Gen.G cares about that game. They should just lockin Iso Deadlock and run it down

I don't take his time on CR seriously cause of the languauge barrier.

With the way ban and Munchkin is looking. T1's coach need to be put on fraudwatch. The way Munchkin's IGL-ing looked way better the moment he went to Gen.G ain't a coincidence

T1. Secret is gonna choke against another Korean team like they did last year against Gen.G

Which team from Japan is good that doesn't rely on an import carry? Cuz even Fennel wouldn't make playoffs in Pacific

They were always mid. People just overrate them cuz they beat a top team in the group stage

Because they lost less maps.

Well, Laz is playing well too

Cuz chamber can farm on defence?

They will qualify as long as they win. Cuz GE has a terrible round diff

No. When peope say EDG dominate China, its cause they always win the tournament in the finals. Even in the evo series, they were losing games.

ZETA needs to win 2-0 and for TLN to lose 0-2.. As long as talon gets a map, they qualify

Disagree, making playoffs means more games to be played = more points to be earned, which all leads to qualifying for Champs. Its a pretty big issue

It doesn't matter how serious ZETA is cause even if they win its not in their control. They need TLN to lose so they can get a better map/round diff.

But the main point is ZETA andTLN should be qualifying over GE if they win their games. Of course all this doesn't matter if T1 wins

I'm not saying they will beat T1. I'm saying even if they beat T1, they might not qualify.

And if they do beat T1, they are better then the bottom 3 alpha no? So why would GE qualify over them?

ZETA could beat the bottom 3 in alpha and still not qualify. That's why this format is flawed

Would you explain where I calculated wrong? Even if ZETA wins vs T1, they might not make playoffs. While all GE needs is for T1 to lose.

How is GE making playoffs with a negative map & round differential while ZETA might not make it even if they win their last game? And ZETA won the h2h against GE too

More on the players. Their decision making is horrendous and they throw a lot of man advantages.

Agree. But some teams just don't have the discipline. A lot of players think they need to make a play cause they're the ones with guns. Some players also solo lurk far from the team when they have the gun.

Because you can mimic the buy but you need to play with discipline. The players with pistols should be making the plays, not the guns. A lot of teams also leave one with the gun alone, and if that gun drops, you can't pick it up. Even worst, that gun leads to you getting eco-ed

Point 19 It was Lakia that said it

Didn't Meteor say his wrist is injured? There was a reddit post about him talking on stream

If you're gonna say things like "Gen.G only made Masters because they didn't meet T1 at Kickoff", you should be getting results no? Wtf was that game?

Any team will have a hard team playing against this Ascent comp for the first time without footage

Nah Valdes is a good play by play caster. This duo just ain't it when Quack does the play by play. Last year when he casted DRX vs GE, it was extremely good

Yeah it didn't but that was what they wanted to happen. It was an unintentional exploit

From the timing, it looked like they wanted the molly to open the door and dizzy to flash the guy inside. Looked unintentional imo

But you can argue they mollied to open the door, and wanted to flash the guy inside the TP. Just the molly didn't reach far enough and the flash opened the door

That round was won anyways

The h2h doesn't even matter this split. ZETA has a better map record than TLN depsite both being 2-1

If Alpha Group's 3rd place has 2 wins, but they have a worst record than Omega's 4th place, who makes playoffs?

Xerxia beat Optic in 2022 and fell off. They bombed out of both Copenhagen and Champs

One of the casters said it recurs. He goes for treatment, he changed all sorts of things like his grip/mouse/pad everything to get better

He just has wrist issues

Where did they say Korea is better than NA though? You gave 2 options for fans, why can't there be 2 for talent?

Actually same I'm a TS hater too

The gap between TS and RRQ can't be that big when the difference was 2 rounds

I still have no idea why people are so down on them when they only lost to Gen.G this year. Like I understand doubting if this roster can get past 5-6th internationally. But within Pacific, people were saying they were gonna lose to Secret

Not like the English speaking fans are any better. Everyone on VLR and Reddit was calling for Lakia's head when he has a long term wrist injury too

I'm pretty sure he's completing his degree while coaching the college team

Y'all literally said this at Kickoff. "T1 would beat Gen.G" "T1 should be at Madrid"