ok so ur top 2 teams outside of prx can do decently well against them. krs worst can do well against them. its not the same

btw kr vct has 2 streams, eng and kr. eng stream averages around 10k for the finals i think is saw 15-20. the korean stream went up to 10k at one point (early into the stage) but usually averages around 4-5k. that combined is bigger than every sub region in apac viewership.

drx would shit on apac as well so first of all lets not even bring up that drx is better than everyone in kr. if you wanna judge just how competitive korea is i suggest u search the tourney up in vlr. i want you to see just how many 11-13 maps there were between every team including teams like DK. even the worst team got to 11-13 vs DRX twice or something like that. and i really doint understnad how number of players indicate how strong a region is. if anything, having lower number of players means you are versing the best in the region hence making it more competitive. why do you think franchising is gonna happen? they are reducing the amount of teams so that each team will play highest competitive games

1. still had more slots than kr in champions
2. i brought it up cuz bren obtaining visa literally does not mean anything or guarantee results. they werent that much better than prx (2 of the 3 maps went OT) and prx bombed out at the very bottom of their group without winning a game.

because "Bleed eSports Obtains $50.8M Investment From Asia Venture Capital". wow sponsered by oppo when dk is sponsered by Kia Adidas. oppo has networth of 500 million (2020 source so likely around 800 million as they gain 150mill annually), kia has 6 billion networth and adidas has 14 billion networth. all u have to know is ur comparing one of the biggest LoL orgs to a mobile gaming org

again with ur numbers, WHO CARS HOW MANY PLAYERS THERE ARE, HOW MUCH MONEY THEY BRING IN ETC ETC ETC we are discussing region strength not region popularity

top 3 top 8 > top 8 top 8 no matter how u look at it. 'who knows what bren could have done with visa' when i could say 'who knows what VS could have done if they didnt vs GMB in the quarters', mind u bren literally thought VS was the best team in the world at that time and GMB themselves had said VS is their biggest threat.

going off international results alone in 2021, kr- top 3 finish, top 8 finish. sea- 2 top 8 finishes. and u cant use the fact that kr had 2 teams in masters when sea had 3 in champions when kr had 1. cant be bringing excuses like visa when i can also start using excuses like 'drx happened to vs gmb in quarters and were the only team to take a map off them in playoffs' or like 'teams like TS had the easiest route to playoffs in champions whilst drx had to verse 2 major region teams in their group'

do you know what dk is? they literally won LoL worlds 2020, they are so big. i fact checked and DK has nearly earned more than all those orgs combined off earnings. by the way dk is damwon KIA, they are literally funded by a car company

how is there a lack of talent? do you even watch the games? you think meteor is good, wait until you see texture. theres no way you look at dk and ons rosters and think 'oh thats little talent'. and views and sponsers isnt the matter at hand when discussing region strength is it

thats not why we have 1 slot. sea did not do better than VS last year and yet they will have 4 guaranteed apac slots compared to our 1 guaranteed for champions

ur using the fact that kr has no org support as to why kr is bad when dk is a bigger org than every sea team besides bleed. not to mention ons is pretty decent from what i hear.

you say that when home competition is doing better than international competition against drx. dont forget there was 3 korean teams left in lcq while there was 1 sea 1 jp.

i think lan experience is very overrated esp since there are no crowds. the amount of players with no lan experience who do well far exceed the ones who fall short of their domestic performance

i never once put apac down or called them trash etc, only stated that east asia > cuz of their clear achievements. if youre gonna get mad at me for stating a fact then just go repeat history class and flame the teacher why dont you kekw

and i listed the literal FACTS about achievements of east asia vs apac. how is me listing a fact toxic or starting a fight.

i think everyone is misintepreting this post. this isnt na vs eu. this wasnt meant to be bm or toxic or anything like that. just simple recognition that east asia is at the very worst competitive with major regions now

gotcha

boasting a track record against the weakest teams na and eu have put out is not an achievement

who is to say kr isnt competitive? drx is dominant but that doesnt mean kr is bad or NECESSARILY worse than apac, cuz they would dominate apac just as hard. if anything these korean teams have been putting up closer statlines against drx than some international competition.

i mean what team did prx beat? g2 and the guard? is that an achievement to you?

1 team region KEKW. apac achievements- 4th place finish in m1 and top 8 in champions, top 8 m2. east asia achievements, top 3 twice, 5th place, top 8 twice (drx will prob do better than top 8 this time)

well when u have an easier road in the playoffs, i think its understandable why prx placed higher.

bruh...do you even watch valorant. i think everyone knows that drx is just an insurmountable wall to prx despite how good they are against other teams

but of course we will get 0 slots cuz riot is fucking dumb

prx will do good but im talking about in terms of these past 2 masters, east asian teams have not only gone further but had more teams go further as well

drx > prx as well

every region does and yet only 1 team from each region does good. really funny

thats how i see it from these past 2 masters

im sure rb sliding into tower was predictable but it didnt stop him from dying 4 times there in a row

cuz china steals koreas best players lol. only rng has won international titles being soley chinese, but thats only in msi

what toxicity? buzz emptying a clip into a dead body?

meteors aim is so good but he makes many mistakes. even if rb isnt playing good, he is a smart player

10 for asia is so wack considering its size and population

u upvoted ur own post + ur own team owner wanted to go to na cuz g2 eu so bad lmaooo

g2 flair

inverse relationship of pp size irl and ingame

where do you even bet

i agree for fracture, but hard to say on breeze considering seider's poor performance

kill assist

on fracture everyone pre much had 80+% KAST. superb usage of util

so many people. twitch chat calling him choker, vlr calling him choker, the casters saying rb is not good internationally, etc. really happy to see him play well

fpx is playing horrible, so many mistakes. shao is just simply too good

i mean its drx on haven. maybe fracture will be different

bruh theres no way youre real. is thorin the one talking in that clip? lmao

f4q, nuturn, drx

you realise thats due to the fact that kr literally only has 1 slot right. u think 2nd seeds from other minor regions are beating domestic drx? and kr has sent 3 teams, latam has sent 2, jp has sent 3. the only minor region that has sent more is br and thats simply due to the fact of the amount of slots they get.

'except korea' when every team that's not the 1st seed from a minor region has done nothing

*barbeque chicken joint

ngl whenever i see texture cam in vct he always seems pissed