show me a single point in this thread thats incorrect and ill delete my acc

ngl ive been repping SEN since day 1

if you're lying to yourself then yeah I could see why these points look dogshit to you

"oNLy TimE caN teLL" lol, being right = smoking dick apparently

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people can change their minds

I get that english probably isn't your first language but the top 3 statement was made only for PRX, ty for pointing out the obvious though 👍

you dont see my flair?

The delusion has never been crazier no? Ever since the addition of JohnQT they literally haven't dropped a series even during the AfreecaTV tournament that included DRX and even PRX whom were a top 3 team last year, and yet there are a people out there that are in complete and sad as fuck denial that they won't remain a top team during Kick Off lol.

They're literally the best team in the world right now, that's a completely objective take by the way don't get it wrong here, they had the strongest showing during the currently ongoing offseason in both offline and online practice like I genuinely do not understand the doubt thats directed towards this roster. Saying teams like NRG are gonna be better than SEN make quite literally no sense whatsoever when we haven't even seen them do shit during the off season besides lose scrims which has been actually bad for them since those scrims are to build team chemistry since they're a new roster, yet all they've done is lose lol.

"oh but but but but TenZ is playing over Pancada! ! ! thats BAD ! ! ! 11" Pancada looked like ass last year and its very clear to see that he fluked his way into a Champs MVP especially when he has never been relevant before or after that tournament. Comparing him to TenZ who's been a top tier player across a variety of metas since this game's existence is an absolutely shameless insult.

Don't even get me started on how dumb as fuck the "oooooh butt bu ut b utt he wasn' t t t on his MAIN RO L E!!!" argument is when its a straight up necessity for a pro player to be flexible. Him consistently shitting the bed on KJ for an entire year can't just be magically forgotten because he couldn't play Omen for the billionth time, and to top it all off, Pancada himself was the one who stated that he hated playing smokes on stream multiple times, then he got his wish and did nothing but choke lol.

You guys seriously think kaplan decided "oh lets put our world champion controller on KJ duty bc why not" like what, the idiot probably protested against the role that carried him thinking he's a good enough pro to at least flex a new role, which all led to their OTHER world champion Brazilian Sacy to be put on controller duty for no reason fucking up the entire team dynamic. Pancada is a plague for this team both in and out of matches.

TenZ has been playing out of his mind so far on Omen and looks way stronger than Pancada has ever been, and yet sadly there's still a lot of people out there blowing their load from his past shortcomings as if they aren't ancient history yet lol. Only team in Americas rn that look strong besides SEN are LEV, every other team is either riding off of pure cope and delusion (NRG) or got massively nerfed (LOUD).

you clearly didn't watch the video without tinted glasses bro, but you do you if we're gonna be denying reality like this.

the yoru is nice ngl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvYxlhMxgeY&t=800s watch this vid as an example, and take into consideration on how often Pancada calls during rounds and compare it to TenZ. Please don't defend a claim you have literally no knowledge in.

Again, please watch at least a single SEN comms vid so you stop making these delusional takes made from your dreams of Narnia. Listen to how and when he comms please, you don't need to reply back just do it, be informed, and move on with your life.

truth hurts

aint no way did you just compare SEN's Bind to EG's Fracture lmfao. EG beat teams like LOUD and FNC on Fracture, while SEN beat teams like 100T and a water downed PRX. Be fr bro. "SEN's Bind is the best in the world" when FNC still exists, absolute insanity of a claim

Literally read it over like twice but ok then bro. "And iirc Sentinels did that thing with Marved for Tenz because he was sick? I dont remember Sen getting flame for that? Maybe flame from a bunch of idiots cuz that was out of their control" like the entire SEN community was on dephh and SEN's ass during that xd

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you are so brain dead to the point where you already forgot that i'm actually comparing Pancada to TenZ and not Zellsis oh my god lol

please watch at least a single SEN comms video to retract this god awful argument. Compare Pancada and TenZ's comms please. Also his english is fluent btw, why you believe otherwise is concerning.

If you straight up admit that Pancada is the better player, then literally what risk is there to replace a smokes player with an even better one lol. You think Pancada is gonna mind control his teammates to suddenly shit the bed? Wtf does TenZ bring to the table as a controller that Pancada can't? How can you admit that Pancada is the better player given the context yet also say that TenZ shouldn't be replaced bc its too risky?

SEN 100% got flame for putting TenZ on bench and I can't believe you're out here lying to yourself on that, dephh took like 99% of all the flame for being a starter over TenZ on like every social media platform ever.

Yes, crediting pretty much all of SEN's current prowess and cohesion on the back of Zellsis and JohnQT is the truth, because where was this team's performance during VCT 2023 without them lol. Don't lie to yourself like this.

you are currently in a state of denial

I mean I'm not forcing the change literally right now, but I believe there's going to be changes to the roster anyways within the season given SEN's history of doing just that.

you're exaggerating TenZ's popularity by a lot first of all, he's nowhere NEAR Faker's popularity like it's not even remotely close for multiple reasons. This type of thought process and exaggeration is why SEN are too scared to replace him and grow as a team. You glossed over a lot of my points on why TenZ should still be replaced and I recommend that you read them pls.

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replacing TenZ for Pancada brings no risk whatsoever and saying that while admitting that Pancada is a better player and that he can make the team better makes no sense. SEN most likely never took out TenZ from starting in scrims this off season because of the flame they got for replacing him for Marved for a bit + the fact that there's been no confirmed scrimbux of TenZ sitting out on unless he's sick, all because TenZ and his popularity of course. That something which clicked was purely JohnQT's and a bit of Zellsis' addition, like it's straight up an objective fact to say that Pancada would raise the team's ceiling AND floor no matter what. We've seen him play smokes even during the off season once and he balled out.

TenZ is in the process of learning a role that Pancada (ex world champ) is already an expert in, it makes no sense to say it would be risky to replace him bc of it.

I'm not arguing that they won't be good, I'm arguing that they can be better with the addition of pancada.

they also talked about how they were gonna keep the marved roster multiple times before they cut him for johnqt, please wake up LOL

https://twitter.com/Sentinels/status/1661082893295419393 ?XD

you can imagine the off season tournaments to be held of the same value as VCT events as much as you want but I just want to tell you that it isn't the truth at all. PRX is the perfect example of why the off season doesn't matter as much as you guys think, they were literally swapping players and roles mid series as a form of practice in the grand final of the AfreecaTV event itself with a player who isn't even gonna be playing this year. The event showed that SEN are a good team dont get it twisted, but by no means did it show anything more than that.

but why do you say this when the season hasn't even fucking started yet bro you're actually concerning me. "they've learned from their mistakes" like what? how? how are you confident in that claim?

oh there's going to be changes this season anyways dont get it twisted, but one things for certain though is that TenZ will 100% still be starting

sacy is a better fit than tenz yes

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you say this like its a final decision when SEN are notorious for mid-season roster changes lol

good to know that you read absolutely nothing

if you read this and call it bait then there's no hope for you. TenZ isn't some omnipotent content god lol.

Zellsis can stay, he's a great player, so lets replace the pro who hasn't been relevant for two years taking over the role of someone who won Champs 2022 and made a Masters final in the same year, the same role the guy couldn't even play or some reason ever since he signed with this washed af org.

"but TenZ is better mechanically" insane argument to say to the 2022 Champs MVP, nothing but pure delusion here
"but TenZ is better at coms" he coms just as much as Pancada, literally no excuses there unless you're lowkey xenophobic. The man can speak english idk how this is news to ppl.
"but TenZ is a team player, Pancada isn't" what does this even mean. Pancada plays smokes, how the fuck is he not a team player and what exactly makes TenZ just that?
"but TenZ brings better vibes to the team" this is the most brain dead argument to have ever graced this community, where were those vibes from him in 2022 and 2023?
"but TenZ can grow to be as good as Pancada" why make a risk like this when Pancada is sitting right there on the bench?

"but TenZ needs to stay for marketing" literally the only argument that makes sense but is still dumb af overall, this game is going to last for years and years, TenZ isn't the Faker of this game bc his competitive relevance has been declining and at some point we're just gonna remember him as that one pro who was super popular at the start of the game but began to get overshadowed by other players who became way more popular as a result soon enough. This bit isnt a conspiracy theory btw, it has happened to many other pros in other games already, it's just a natural process for a game's esport.

SEN prioritize temporary fame that'll only lead to imminent failure. Teams that win a lot will be the most popular and successful in the long-term, this SEN hype will continue to die out especially after this year where they'll get exposed for having a weak link that can be easily fixed. If EG's org wasn't terrible and they kept their Champs roster, they would be entering 2024 as the most popular NA team even though they began as nobodies at the start of the year, this is because they actually won shit.

You know why SEN are even popular to begin with? It's bc they won shit in 2021, and they're still leeching off of that success until it fades.

If you want SEN to be the best, replace TenZ for Pancada.
If you want SEN to grow both competitively and financially down the line, replace TenZ for Pancada.

None of this is rocket science, there's an opportunity to make this team and org better, and it starts with the removal of a single player. If it happens then it'll sting for a bit obviously, but that sting will be washed away when success comes pouring in. SEN are once again trying to half ass themselves success and its going to end terribly as it always does.

EDIT: Please stop saying "oh but SEN probably tried to replace TenZ but the results were worse" no they didn't, don''t lie to yourselves please. Find me a scrimbux this off season that has TenZ on bench when he isn't sick, TenZ is staying as a starter no matter what to them for marketing purposes. They put him on bench during the Americas League and got shit on by every fan alive bc of it, and now they're scared of doing it again. Even if they picked up Demon1 or aspas, TenZ would still be of higher priority.

EDIT #2: For the ppl saying that its too late to make a change, this is SEN we're talking about, the team that has repeatedly made roster changes midseason. It's never too late for these guys lol.

are you slow? do you think im mind controlling the pros to be active on twitter? do you even understand what im talking about?

not really no

idk if this is news to you but the majority of pros use twitter and that it's their biggest source of engagement when it comes to social media, and no one on the SEN roster is an exception. It doesn't matter if the death threats dont exist outside of Twitter, they'll still be read by the pros regardless.

dont go complaining then and sending death threats to the weakest link like what happened to dephh

literally what are you even talking about

you call my threads the worst baits yet you're the only one here crying about them existing lol, embarrassing af when we both know this thread here is literally the truth if we aren't keeping our eyes closed. Out here memorizing IDs on an gaming forum lol.

"But its fine, you are Brazilian, your Portuguese is far better than mine" bro what is this and why do you have to try so obnoxiously hard to sound sarcastic. If you think I'm baiting then why bother replying, or are you just not smart enough to understand that.

weird to assume that I don't also support LOUD who are also a group of people I like based on their personalities lol. You think they're robots or something? They just happen to be good unfortunately for you.

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I've been doing just that but the recent drama brought me back for a bit

i strongly agree

do ik you? i dont think we've ever talked to each other and its honestly weird that you remember my id when i haven't touched this site in a while

Past two years you guys always believed that they'll be a top team and they've done nothing but disappoint heavily, and yet here you guys are back at it doing it all over again like a broken record. Aren't you guys just tired of this? It's seriously not that hard to just pick a different team to cheer for, but for some reason a lot of you would rather gaslight yourselves into results that you know deep down inside are unobtainable for this team.

The org is fundamentally flawed and would much rather put all their chips into marketing that's been slowly dying out, TenZ who's practically held at gunpoint to stay a starter is an already established choker, Zellsis & Zekken are straight up beyond overrated by all means, Pancada & Sacy who are really the only good players on the roster are unfortunately seen as soon-to-be replacements possibly due to their nationality bc it clearly can't be their gameplay, and then there's JohnQT who's given the impossible task to branch all of this together towards a title with the only end to this being led to him retiring from targeted excessive toxicity by the entirety of #SENCity for being "another dephh" (this bit is inevitable)

I just really don't understand why you guys seem so content with lying to yourselves for yet another year. At least 100T fans are capable of realizing that they're ass, but no you guys just can't do that. Like just cheer for a good team like LOUD or something its really not that hard, but gl being disappointed for another year ig.

bumass freak rly said he's carrying the site lmaoo. imagine being so chronically online that you think an online forum needs you holy shit, pathetic af kinda life he living.