why not

they suffer from some serious denial for some reason

Zekken has been playing with the "big boys" for two years now and was consistently the best lol.

During Americas League, Victor was actually the best Jett there by a large margin lol. You can check the stats for that tourney right now if you want to.
Jinggg has never been dominant internationally at all. Like ever. There was always a duelist who performed better than him in whatever international he qualified for on Raze, thats why I think the title isnt deserving.
Aspas is a bit overrated yes, I would still put him top 3 but below Zekken for sure objectively.

you wanna get smth out of your chest?

you gatekeeping vlr?

that was in order btw, in terms of being the perfect duelist, Zekken is the closest of the three

Zekken is more consistent, Zellsis is more consistent, Leo is more consistent, Alfajer is more consistent, Demon1 is more consistent, s0m is more consistent, Less is more consistent, i can go on. ppl just overrate the guy because of 2022 LOUD.

Aspas and Victor was the best Raze & Jett players during the Americas League + Victor was also the best Raze in Americas during Masters, idk how you're disagreeing besides Champs winner bias (that again was a fluke imo)

Jinggg also got astro gapped by Jawgemo in the final whos like the 4th best Raze in Americas, i think its safe to say that even if "officially" Zekken dethroned him, I always knew that Jinggg was a bit of a fraud and didnt deserve that title

zekken, aspas, and victor were the two best in americas all year. jawg is just worse but he did expose jinggg for being a fraud at least

Jawg has only been the best Raze in Americas for Champs which was lowkey a fluke by EG, Zekken just dethroned Jinggg rn too (even tho i never considered Jinggg to be the best)

jawgemo is just a hard fluke i fear + Jinggg lowkey got dethroned even if he stays but i dont wanna sound like a meatrider. Idk what ppl see in Jawg honestly, Zekken is just better all around in terms of mechanics, game sense, etc

hes comfortably the best Raze in the world rn and its been like that for quite some time now, and in all honesty his Jett is just as clean. He also has the ability to flex to the world-class level on top of all that, but thats irrelevant rn. Demon1 & aspas are really the only ppl that can be brought into this discussion (dont know why some ppl bring in Derke and something into this kinda talk at all ngl), but then again Demon1 can't play any other duelist besides Jett (that's rly not all that great, a bit worse than leaf imo) and aspas is just straight up inferior mechanically (which makes sense since Zekken is only 18) paired with his inconsistency to perform.

I think Zekken after just Raze gapping the "best Raze in the world" just solidified himself as the best duelist bar none I feel. If you watch how he functions on stream in ranked then you'll see why, the kid is just different different. Maybe everyone else can catch up as we head into 2024.

whoever been saying that shit is just purely delusional, EMEA outside of FNC is very obviously dogshit whereas Brazil outside of LOUD we still have top tier competitors like LEV (currently the best team in the world), FURIA, MIBR, etc + our Tier 2 talent.

truth hurts for some people, nothing i said here is actually incorrect at all. if being smart means pointing out the obvious then call me einstein

GE flair

pick a better team if ur gonna be toxic here

nice flag & flair change you fake ass fan

After 2021 when we actually started caring about Valorant, we pretty much dominated the scene lol lets be real.

• We made it to the finals in our actual first ever international tournament (light work already?)

• Was the actual first region to win Champs since 2021's Acend was the biggest fluke & Gambit was gonna lose the final anyways since nAts is a known choker (idk why we're denying it lol, replace ENVY with Acend and they wouldve been the champs 100% 😂). We were also the most dominant team in any Champions btw.

• Would've won Lock//In 999 times out of 1000 if FNC didn't pull off the biggest fluke to win Icebox (we also won against WAY harder teams btw, FNC pretty much had a free ticket to the finals since they vs'd dogwater teams like SEN & NAVI 😂)

• Completely dominated the Americas League like it was lightwork whereas Fraudnatic went 2nd in their objectively shittier league to fucking TL and nAts 😂😂😂

• We had issues during Tokyo Masters ngl so we weren't there to carry Americas because we all know NA can't do it themselves (3-0'd by EMEA is crazy)

• 2023 Champs came and we pretty much shitstomped the entirety of the 5-seeded "best region in the world" while also singlehandedly slapping Fraudnatic out of the biggest tourney that EG would've 100% lost their trophy to 😂 its actually sad af how bad EMEA is, too bad they fluked LOCK//IN vs us even if the tourney held no actual value 😔😔😔

That being said, even tho EG massively fluked out their series vs us to win Champs because everyone knows the 0 trophy region were gonna lose the final no matter fucking what (unironically glorified choking merchants), we were definitely the best team in the entirety of 2022, Lock//In, Americas League, and both back-to-back Champions tournaments with a simple eye test and a properly functioning brain.

Brazil has been running VCT for two years now btw, and now our best team just duplicated with the Valorant GOAT (who's brazilian and clears both Demon1 and yay easily) leaving LOUD to join another brazilan roster to instantly make them the best team in the world tied with the current LOUD. Did I also forget to mention we have both the best IGL + best sentinel in the world who consistently clears B0tser and Alfraudjer? It's gg!

for anyone who thinks this is bait somehow, please read this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denialism

you know champs had a prize pool right? if you lose in LCQ, you literally get nothing 😂😂😂

did you also think 100T was the 2nd best team after they won RB Home Ground last year? youre fr funny

looking good after bombing out of LCQ that KRU of all teams won is not a high bar dont get it twisted 😂😂😂

im part of the problem? tf did i do

these baiters are getting weird ngl, i might need to take a break

where was SEN in that tourney 😂😂😂 where was SEN in tokyo 😂😂😂 where was SEN in brazil, oh wait nvm https://www.vlr.gg/167368/sentinels-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-omega-ro16 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

did you have a coma the last two years or do you REALLY think SEN are back next year, again. keep it real bud 😂😂😂

imagine being so desperate for inclusion with NA just because LATAM only won a single int trophy even when your region looks infinitely better rn, actually a bit sad ngl

buddy pulled out an ancient relic when the discussion is about 2023 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 EU lost to EU how tragic, guess who won that tournament buddy 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 reminder that KRU couldnt even get a single map vs Giants in the Champs they won LCQ for 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

LOUD is our only competition what can i say 🤷 Americas is singlehandedly carried by them, its no wonder why FNC made Masters Tokyo look the easiest its ever been, LOUD just couldn't show up to carry the NA frauds (see the final for the results of EU's #1 vs NA's #1) (APAC isn't even worth mentioning XD) 🤷🤷🤷

imagine typing this after literally just winning your region's first ever champs 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 keep it real buddy maybe SEN couldve had a better chance to win LCQ next year if it still existed 😢😢😢 their champ points are gonna be in the gutter in seconds that only a 1st place finish in americas stage 2 is the only hope for them to qualify for champs 😢😢😢😢

https://www.vlr.gg/220448/fnatic-vs-evil-geniuses-champions-tour-2023-masters-tokyo-gf ty for the free trophy 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

buddy everyone in that tournament lost to KRU, only the winner goes to champs, literally nothing else matters 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

the only bait here is SEN baiting their entire region into thinking they're actually good 😂😂😂 lost LCQ to KRU btw 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 the Moroccan import isnt saving that buddy 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

its been like that and next year is gonna be even worse due to all these current pent up delusions for teams like fucking SENTINELS??? LMFAO

i respect Shopify, however though they can't make up for this horrendous year NA Tier 1 put out

LOUD held their hand buddy dont lie to yourself, we all know what wouldve happened if FNC faced EG in the playoffs (see masters final for reference)

you rly just said ratio and then immediately upvoted yourself

• imagine getting 3-0'd in a grand final to EU
• imagine getting knocked out before even touching the finals in lock in (that we won btw) with your precious OPTIC core
• imagine having not one, not two, but THREE of your beloved teams lose out in champions qualifications to fucking KRU (SEN, 100T, and C9 are the biggest frauds in VCT)
• imagine thinking your best team are actually the best in the world without beating FNC once (LOUD carried Americas all year)
• imagine after having such an awful year you guys unironically try to gas yourself into thinking that SEN yet again are gonna be world-class contenders as if that narrative hasn't died already
• imagine your best team already imploding even after what happened to OPTIC
• imagine all the people living their lives in peace
• imagine thinking Semen1 clears aspas or derke unironically (derke has never lost a series vs Semen1)
• imagine letting your region's best smokes player and your best IGL sit out of VCT
• imagine losing your ACTUAL best player to fucking APAC LOL
• imagine thinking you guys are in the same tier as us & whatever team aspas or less are in
• imagine again losing to KRU in LCQ when the team didn't even win a single map in champs (2-0'd knocked out by Giants, our random ass EU team XD)
• imagine thinking NA is on top for 2024 still.

stop the delusion

"troublesome sister" 💀

my mother's half indian idk what ur smoking

good one buddy, too bad SEN still gets cleared by them and ur gonna see why in a few months

VITerrible are gonna choke like the rest of EMEA, fraud ass region couldnt even win the actual main event with the "best team in the world"

this guy just recently started playing Valorant (seriously, because he was never trying before) and already shot up to the Tier 1 scene as a cracked all-around player to represent my home country. i get that theres already top class players like Demon1 and Alfajer n shit but honestly with an eye test, they're actually pretty flawed whereas with Lightningfast who's again just started playing the game seriously looks to be light years ahead in terms of macro play. I dont wanna shoot the gun n shit too early but don't be surprised when India's best multi-flex Lightningfast becomes one of the best of the best within a year or two. Already players like Derke and Ethan are falling off hard its actually embarrassing ngl.

ignore him and continue cooking 👍

facts bro these baiters are everywhere

facts bro these baiters are everywhere

point to a single lie ive said in this thread buddy, if NPCs are never wrong then i guess im 1 😂

not lying = bait 😂 you think Zekken doesn't have 0 trophies??? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

dude gonna actually keep it real here and say that raze mains do in fact use satchels as jett dashes when they need to you know that right

"when" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂