Nrg, 100t, and sen are not gonna be easy tho...

tbh its not a fair comparison...
Fnatic is too dominant in EMEA they won map 10-1 with round difference +58 from only from 5 matches. also the fragger in that team is more even since Leo, Alfajer, and Chronicle are also beast...

um...nothing new. every Brazilian said the same thing last year....

Yeah...but getting 7 win first also quite important since they may secure the upper semifinal....

Dude that's the only map they could won in this VCT...they have 0% win on the other map before this match....LMAOOOO

Monyet should be S....He is so consistent fo a huge number of round he already played...

GenG is still no 2 even tho Paper Rex has better round differential...so its not rd comes first but map differential...

exactly...their consistency is ass (again, for me its because they dont have a good duelist)...but they still showed some improvement...the fact that they can take down DRX on their best map showed that they actually have potency....

in America yes...itw imo Fnatic, LOUD, DRX, and NAVI are better than C9....

For me they were the most surprising team in Pacific. I have rated them as the worst between all franchising team and though that they will get 0-9 (as many people also did). But actually they were not that bad, and showed an improvement. The problem with them is that their duelist is not consistent, good in one round and very bad in the other round....

agree.....RRQ so far is the most surprising team in APAC...before I though this meme team will get 0-9, but then they prove me wrong...the match can be close, but I think GE have a better chance to win it.

I believe they want to win Pacific as clean as possible. But they may underestimate RRQ which lead to lost a map...

dude dont understand...its not the matter champions or not, its the same team which defeat each others..

Nah...although I dont like EG, but not sure M80 is deserved to replaced them in franchising...

he did see the bullet come from but not the players...

tbh Ange1 is really step up this season...188 kills frag from 5 matches is quite good for an IGL...

Nah...individually Mako is better in all international tournaments in 2022....

they already have clear and genghsta no?

One player play like shit is the fact that be seen by the stats. But "a good mood" is just your assumption that cant be proven. Also, Saadhak, Aspas, and Pancada stats were not bad at that time.

If you want a stats in 2021. Ok then this is 2021
Stage 2 Masters - Reykjavík (first international for Saadhak) -5-6th place
FNS - do not participate (lose ticket to SEN and V1)

Stage 3 Masters - Berlin
Saadhak - do not participate (lose ticket to Havan Liberty and Keyd)
FNS - 2th place (lose to Gambit in Final)

Champions
Both getting groupped

At the end FNS still get a higher achievement than Saadhak.

Reading comprehension... I told you already...OPTIC is the most consistent team in 2022, the year where saadhak and FNS compete together with a good squad... I deliberately did not bring 2021 since Saadhak barely cant do anything in the international level...

"because of ONE bad performance in his career where the whole team was not in a good mood you tell me FNS is better?"
Lmao. This is exactly what I said from the start, NRG would not be able to play well because Ardiis played very bad since the beginning yet you dont understand. Now you bring " the whole team was not in a good mood" as your excuse? what a hypocrite...kekw...

Alphabet name no?

lmaoo.....

Nah...you are just delusional lil bro...

I've watched APAC quite a lot. But I never impress with OCE every time they performed in Challenger or LCQ (Order or Bonkers). Individually, I only knew Rdeew and Wronski since sometimes they make a really good play. While China, when they have a chance, they destroyed LCQ East Asia (which in general is better than APAC)....

China >>> OCE on the money, talent, viewership

Leaf definitely...this guy is a monster...

even EG carried by KRU bro...

Lmao...it was FPX....

lmao....

I read somewhere that he lost his wallet in LA so he had to go back to Canada to get his cards/ID's..

Current NRG missed Marved lurked (Im not seeing S0m doing this often), and yay OP...

they cant even kill zellsis with knife out...kekw...

After seeing what happen to yay or vanity, im not sure there is a clause like that in this franchising era....

If they dont need him, they could let him leave instead of paying his huge salary and got nothing. like what's happen to yay...

VCT America and Lock In are not comparable with Master and Champions. VCT America is more likely VCT Brazil, LATAM, or NA but in a bigger stage. Similar to the lock in, the prize pool (compare to the number of participants) and the format shows that this tournament is not the same tier as Master.
We will see if LOUD could perform well in Tokyo and Champions to see whether Saadhak really could keep LOUD at the high level or not...

Lmao...so what? Why did you avoid talking about Copenhagen? Why? Why? Because you will only show your hypocrisy...you talk shit about the performance of FNS on 1 tournament (even though its not finish yet), but you avoid to talk about the performance of "your team" that literally already known...
Also, any sane NA fans know that LOUD will win against EG 2-0. The fact that they dominated LOUD 13-3 on their map pick is surprised me. Again, here you cherry picked the 13-0, where were you at the 1st map?kekw...

feels bad for Ethan...getting 13-0 by the Guard, and now by LOUD...

And consistency...I mean when LOUD getting grouped on Copenhagen, I don't think you said Saadhak is a bad IGL. no?

Nah...its just hard for you to admit that he is still the best IGL until there is another IGL that exceeds his achievements and consistency...that's why its hard for you to understand that a simple "washed"/declining player could destroy a team...

Nah that a good series...respect for both teams....

at some point they can....Boaster admitted it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r2Hz7a7t84

Nah....you don't understand the context... Ardiis is bring to replace yay with a high hope. But instead, you see how he performed: vs Levi (-12), vs MiBr (-6), vs C9 (-19). Only vs Sen he went positive, although his perform was not outstanding. Thats why like I said, if LOUD have ardiis instead of aspas. I'm pretty sure LOUD could not perform well like now...
And if you see how Marved played yesterday, you will notice very well that lurking is something that S0m does not have/ very lacked.
So surely, with all the changes he may need more time.

Also the fact that he bring OPTIC become the most consistent team in 2022 (something that no others IGL can do) is undeniable....Until Saadhak do the same thing this year and then we can argue...

Cause you do not watch vct sa and indonesia. Although i think Azys is more deserved than both of the Australian.

Nah....he is right. you see how ardiis played? I dont think LOUD could performed well if aspas swapped with ardiis...
also s0m is a great player, he has proven that he can play at a high level, but he is still not on Marved level yet...

A lot...if you are go back to 5-6 month ago. so many thread on doubting him, like why NRG dont pick better smoker, calling him overrated player, saying him was the worst choice compare to Marved, Valyn, Zander, or Zombs; saying that s0m maybe just will only be a content creator in the end, and so many more....

Nah its getting better...Fnatic might not be as good as it is today without franchising, similar with other org including GE...surely there is a big gap rn, but mostly due to mismanagement (EG, RRQ, DFM, KC for example). And this is only the first year, we can still hope that in the coming years other organizations will improve...

cool...3 years choked and finally get a micky mouse cup...gee gee...

Their Ascent was always bad...they never won this map in the last 6 attempt. They should perma ban this map tbh...

Nah...they have to stick with the rosters till end of season

i prefer sliggy because he is more calm...tmv sometimes overreacting for everything...