I've seen him. He has good movement, but not as crazy as jinggg and his aim is not as good as jinggg.

Exactly...we did not see he played many agent role recently, so can't really say he is still good or not.

Nope. Player with high firepower maybe yes. But someone with unpredictable movement/crazyness like jinggg in Apac? I've never seen that person.

In the past yes. But rn he mainly only play breach and viper....

It's not a good game. But fun to watch...

They played much better than expected tbh....

Vamooossss

His role rn were mainly breach and viper. While f0rsaken consistently played different agent role in the last 90 days...

Nope.... honestly in Fnatic Alfa, Leo and chronicle are better than him...

Lmao....

If you are watching the match you can see it. Its clearly said #2 emea vs #3 ame.

It's normal tho...he is not watching EMEA. And cloud only played once internationally in the lock in...

Agree. Navi lost to EDG and Giant. Similar with LOUD which getting stomped by EDG last event. While DRX was three times loss against PRX this year...

The only EMEA team in playoff is Fnatic. The others get grouped.

Nah...maybe slot to franchising first to see whether they deserved to be in master/champs or just another kcorp/dfm moments.

dude are you drunk? FNC and TL were in pot 1. Who do you think will be in pot 2 from EMEA?

You got wrong comparison. You should compared EPL and La Liga. La Liga have more champions league trophies, but we can still argue that EPL is still the best league itw...

its fps games. ofc, any agent you played you still need to shoot. so if we have a beginner with "the same shooting skill", Reyna is the easiest agent to play, because his skill set is very simple.

Reyna...you just need to shoot...

I believe it's the same. In crossfire there is EUMENA region where EU team (mostly Germany player) also compete...

Nope...why should I? maple syrup is one of our pride and its taste good....Like I said I may think it's an insult but i'll definitely not consider it as a racist. Since I am in the superior position in that matter (in the positive way ofc)...

idk man...normally someone said racist because he believe that his race is better. He'll say something bad of that race, not the opposite. If someone said to me to play hockey or drink maple syrup I'll not considered that as a racist. As an insult maybe, depend on how it is delivered. But definitely not a racist for me....

Can you explained why it's a racist? If anyone said go play badminton to Flipz or go watch KPop to Korean or go play football to Brazilian. Is it considered as a racist?

Potter seeing how "mid" the team was....but mCe is also good...

Only NA team can buy them and offer higher salary. But I'm not sure any of them want to leave Fnatic to NA....

1) it's not a better explanation since it's already be disproved by the champs. And It can't be a good explanation if you disproved your own argument by making an exception based on another assumption. The fact is that lock in has the lowest prize pool and prize for the winner (half of winner's prize from master and less than 1/3 prize for champ's winner). And most people that think that lock in was not a major/mickey mouse tournament/less prestigious tournament is based on that fact.
2) lmao. Now you get some point, major is not for "dogshit" team...that's why a qualifier is needed. All major except Lock In has a qualifiers. No matter how much the contestant, whether 12 or 16, there were always qualifiers (it's not unique point, it's all in major competition). So don't beating around the bush, just show any major without qualifier, then you disproved this argument, otherwise your argument will always be irrelevant. And please, don't make another dumb argument or comparison.
4) still irrelevant, like I said what we knew from riot it's a showcase tournament. Everybody with a sane mind will not think the tournament where for most of the team was their first official match become a major. So it's better for me, you and everybody keep sticking and treat the tournament by what riot said about it.
5) lmao....in na will call it major? Prove it please....

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1) Your argument is irrelevant here since its not disproving my previous argument. Instead you are proving that Lock In is not the same tier with Master and Champions. Champs > Master > Lock In...KEKW...
2) you dont understand what you are talking little bro. You knew why KC, DFM, or Kru did not compete in Master Tokyo right? Instead making useless argument tell me if you knew any major without qualification. Can you?

4) Again, your argument is irrelevant. It does not make any sense the tournament that intend to showcase the team (where most of them dont have any info of other team and that their first official match) to become a major.
5) LMAO....Why should I go to poll? you knew poll is depend on a subjectivity right? if I made this poll on America/NA surely they will say no, but if put this poll in EMEA they will say yes. a dumb argument to determine its major or not based on poll.
Riot? all we knew from Riot is that the tournament is a "one time" only event that were doing for "very specific" purpose: 1. introduce partnership team, 2. celebration the launch of VCT, 3. preparing the team before move to their respective city (Leo Faria) that's all, no need your interpretation here! Liquipedia? just go to CS-GO page and you'll know that they also put a major and a non major tournament at the same tier list (S-tier). So again, your argument irrelevant here.

Since the beginning you just waffling around without any point lil bro. You cant even disproving the fact the tournament lack of prize pool, qualification to be called as a major. pathetic!

1. Nope. It does not make any sense for a major have such a low prize pool with only 100k for a winner...its a shame. ngl. Also Champions always have more teams than master with a longer time, yet, the prize pool always much higher than master. So your argument is not valid!
2. Nope.. when everyone can enter the tournament, its not best of the best anymore. just see other major, or at least other tournament hosted by riot lil bro. you should see the difference...dont make a stupid comparison like that...
3. It still prove my argument that the format is the worst among any other tournament held by Riot.
4. Tournament to introduce the team and major at the same sentence? Nah.... It was a real tournament, but...nah....
5. Agree with master 1. the other is just your assumption.

Nope...low prize pool (Fnatic get the same amount of prize money with TL, Prx, and Loud for win their league), no qualification (every team can compete, unlike any other tournament hosted by Riot), and has a worst format. It's weird if anyone called that tournament as a major (regardless who are the winner), except Riot said that.

1. 500k is the lowest prize pool ever in valorant history tournament hosted by Riot (considering also the number of participants). Fnatic get only half of what Sen get in 2021 as a winner. The prize money that Fnatic get was the same with that paper rex, TL, and Loud get from winning their league.
2. Major event should consisted only the best "x" team from each region. Not all team can get a "free ticket" to compete. That's why in any major event in other eSports even in Valorant before Lock In there were always a qualification for each region.cmiiw.
3. Agree with some of your point, but still the format in Lock In was the worst if we compared to other event hosted by Riot.
4. He was right, I clearly remembered that riot mentioned it's a show tournament to introduced a new team to their fans. So it's weird, if it's now called a major. Also the term back to back can be right if refers only to "international trophy".
5. Agree with you.its just his assumption.

Nonetheless should be a criteria how we could call a tournament as a major, not only because it is hosted by developer and we call it as a major..

Imo it's weird to think Lock In is a major just because riot hosted the event....Lock in lacked a lot of thing to be called as a major

1. Lack of prize pool (in fact it has the lowest prize pool compared to all the tournament that riot hosted, even Sen in 2021 get 2 times prize compare to Fnatic)
2. No qualification, all franchised team can compete (not best of the best compete in the tournament, not like any other tournament)
3. Weird format (no group stage, single Elim)

Didn't know that a tournament with low prize pool (especially for winner), with no qualification, and have bad format considered as a major... nonetheless, Fnatic deserved to win both of tournaments. They are so strong and dominant. Congrats for them...

Nah....they played well with the sub...respect to them...o7...

And beat OPTIC core once more...ggs...

SEN was never a "superteam"...

nice jinxed...

What do you expect from a kid?

Nope...s0m is good. But not in the same level with Marved yet....

Lmao...your argument also shit man.just your subjectivity. And nobody cares about your argument. The fact you make an account just to bait like this only show your pathetic life....kekw...

Why lower final in vct thai is best of 3, while other vct is best of 5?

Saving strats is cope lil bro...surely every team want the trophy and the prize....TL is just better in the grand final...

Nope....even if we see the stats only verno and Trent are better than eeiu...

Individually he lost so many duels in that match....also even since Foxy9 joined the team, I still believe Buzz is their best duelist....

I think they subbed foxy9 because he is getting exposed in the game before where PRX win against them relatively easy...

he is the best rn...

So far so good....his team really need his flexibility...

South NA...lmao....

kindda...win this game go to Master and Champs.....

Loud get easy win without trying against Lev and Furia but lost one map against EG and c9. And getting 2-0 against nrg...