you said optic 2022, and nah they aint top 4 all time

give me loud 22 fnc 23 gambit 21 prx 25 geng 24, you can even say that fpx 22 roster is one of the best ever

that optic (roster) lost to gambit, lost to loud, lost to fpx, lost to prx and only won bc of a war

ranking the core, they might be top 3 all time, but prx fnatic still above

acend and fnatic are very underrated teams in that period

sen 2021 is properly rated, its literally just a streamer team nobody pays them much mind or thinks they are amazing - but they were def the best team itw at that time

optic is only overrated if you have them in top 5 teams of all time, if you dont you're good

why do you reply with an acomplishment, as if they can't be over rated even with that in mind

I didn't say they suck

FPX were pretty vividly the best team itw, and they had not been allowed to attend, however the next event they attended, they won won of the most competitive tournaments

Reply with your reasoning and I will rate your ragebait

1. optic 2022, consistent but tbh only has a trophy bc of politics

cant really name other teams, sorry, just optic today

tbf its a very good spin on what religion was meant to be from a philosophical standpoint

very culturally relevant today and although the show isnt really that good in terms of hype the signifigance of "love thy neighbor" is way more important than the corny i have no enemies stuff

in fiction is einar from vinland saga

do you think bagre * bagre = not bagre? is this your mathematical logic

best is vyse chamber and vyse deadlock

theyre just throating chronicle who anyone knows is a better player when we can literally see in an objective matter that f0rsaken has no weakness on his agent pool while chronicle does

well i think chronicle is better at valorant but i just think f0rsaken can actually look decent on any agent, not just any role

cant really put chronicle on neon can ya

viper plays like a sentinel

either way f0rsaken plays more agents at a higher level, idk why this is a discussion,

the gap has definitely closed from before but theres still a gap

chronicle is good at what he plays but f0rsaken plays everything

chronicle has >20 maps played on 7 agents, f0rsaken on 13 agents - longer history on different agents

f0rsaken plays all four roles consistently, and has always been like this, chroncile historically on fnc was a breach raze viper player, and has picked up senti after alfa himself started flexing,

he still is really only senti/flash while f0rsaken has played init controller duelist recently

forsaken is better at flex chronicle is better at valorant

sheydos is a fucking legend retard

i watched the matches and i think he really underperformed vs liquid in lcq

outside of that sheydos or nats outperformed him statwise at every event, and i think nats contributes more to round winning outside of stats due to map control and lurks

as for champs 2024, chronicle was better than derke vs sen and blg, but derke was better vs the rest of the teams and especially heretics tbh - idk if chronicle had better stats at the tournament but if he did its bc of the blg match

he was not the best player on m3c, neither split 1, 2 or LCQ, derke was better at champs, and he was their best player at ewc

so, split 2 2024, champs 2021, ewc 2025

those above are the events chronicle has been the best player on his team

he has good rating at a bunch of events because hes on dominant teams, but in 4 years of competition, best player(on his team) at 3 events

b0sk carried vs barca, sayonara sold two maps

apeks was the first good team kaajak has played on,

kpi and dvm are much better than a lot of t2 teams,

im referring to him saying t2 career, kaajak has outperformed his tier 2 career in tier 1

started off strong except bumicle won that berlin trophy fair and square

other two takes are doodoogarbage

he wasnt the best player in ascension or split 1 spain, and honestly sevire and starxo are just as good in france

bit hard glaze here, hes really not that much better than kaajak keiko or lar0k for example, its just that hes never faced actual competition in tier 2

Kpi and dvm were in contention to win ascension, kaajak is 21 and has spent years in t3/2 on shit teams, he got one good team and brokeout

hes literally played in very good teams lol

if anything kaajak was the one stuck on shit teams for a long time

because entrying is different than FK

then who? ramgi?

loud would commit war crimes vs nrg

LMFAOOO "HES JUST GONNA WAIT HES A FKN BAITER"

rip man

sayonara is washed at 17

watch netflix in german to learn grammar and use apps like duolingo for vocab

german easiest language ive learned after italian

pancada aint sabotage shit he carries

aspas is literally a cutiepie

saadhak was calling extremely well at ewc

less joined a superteam wym prefers money, his peers didnt do THEIR Job how is it his fault

nobody should be hated he should just be fired

pancada aspas and saadhak are still doing good, less is fine just on a bad team

you're just brainrot posting

hes pretty shit relative to his peers on duelist actually

verno reduxx skuba

cane ion one of the bums

loita lar0k comeback

lukxo sato whoever tf else was there

its obviously loita lar0k and comeback but lowkey

johnqt please, stop ruining zekkens career.. love thy neighbor

GC doesn't count as import

perfectly describes this situation

theres a term for this i think its stockholm syndrome

Quote where I said that, perhaps a middleground between 4 S tier events and 20 is nice

CCP Propoganda Project (LoL/Val) vs Saudi Tourism and Gambling Initiative (CS/Dota)

then we got Americass with OW and CDL

CIA gotta step it up

48 teams, 240 players, and only 3 trophies (now 4) a year

Counter Strike is so far ahead </3 so many S tier events </3

i applied for TUM for most universities in europe they teach masters in english but undergrad in local languages brev

you can find exceptions but usually its like this

pancada crying tears of joy after seeing his duelist go site instead of CT

still their best option regardless

everything is unrealistic until the offseason then you see whats reality

you used to yap about how comeback wouldnt be a m8 player when i said he should be signed

stat padder, even his stats are like hilarious

would go +15 gettings kills after his entire team dies on site after he doesnt clear shit, but has one of the trashiest FK/FD ratios for someone getting that many kills

even the stats suck for him

sorry for your loss

NRG should pay every penny on earth for Lar0k and then get a nice IGL, and maybe verno if mibr fails

frost talked about his issues, and he still hasnt learnt how to play duelist, and hes 25, cant be making those mistakes at 25 when theres a 18 year old that won't

and pancada was doing just fine, just wasnt statpadding by ignoring his role and running for kills