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LOUD 2023 being as good as some of the best teams ever (EG, FNC, PRX) after losing pancada and sacy is proof they(22) are the best team ever

no because G2 are default and protocol merchants

Potter's EDG brought out the prime of Ethan and c0m, elite initiators but she gave them the best execs ive ever seen

nothing has come close to champs eg execs

Liquid 2025 is the closest i suppose, maybe prx 22

obviously the entry of this team jawgemo was farming, it is the perfect situation for pretty much the most aggressive player itw

how is fnc 2023 better than loud 2022 when they were worse than a downgraded LOUD roster?

I can understsand how you value longevity - but even early in the year they barely won, so how exactly is loud 2022 worse

obviously, but the people who use your second argument forget that FPX were much better split 1

its very easy to predict FPX were better earlier in the year during iceland

h00ritics gonna get outcalled by minny

IF MY GRANNY HAD BALLS SHED BE MY GRANDAD

unironically this is literally the most likely occurance

think before you speak please

its not because fpx won copenhagen its because fpx didnt attend

top 3 team itw not attending because of circumstances outside of losing qualifiers automatically makes iceland the most competitvley unsound tournament

derke was one of the best players itw on his first event with vit </3

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FPX was stronger earlier in the year, regional contenders rarely stay the same all year, but it was clear that FPX peaked earlier than copenhagen via regional results and performance - and either way the best team of a region not attending will always be competively unsound

optic won fairly, but no matter how you felt there was a missing figure that DID win the next event,

copenhagen isnt more competitve than champs, not at all, but its certainly one of the most competitve events, and much more so than iceland 22

sorry, so they destroyed drx, who fucked fpx, xset weren't ALL that but i see a point there.

Optic came in tired because LOUD 2-0d them 13-10, 13-3, so they kind of earned it, they relied on key players on key moments that have always been "clutch" players

You list fnatic, but fnatic struggled to beat LOUD 2022 (after losing their two best players) and then Fnatic got dominated by LOUD at champs that same year

so which is it, is LOUD overrated or Fnatic?

i mean, 25 M2 ruins it, fnatic had leo issues, edg is edg, 100t is 100t, and prx is prx

honestly felt like only EMEA sent their best team as #1 seed, and they really weren't allat with sick leo

fair enough, as a core they are strong

you said optic 2022, and nah they aint top 4 all time

give me loud 22 fnc 23 gambit 21 prx 25 geng 24, you can even say that fpx 22 roster is one of the best ever

that optic (roster) lost to gambit, lost to loud, lost to fpx, lost to prx and only won bc of a war

ranking the core, they might be top 3 all time, but prx fnatic still above

acend and fnatic are very underrated teams in that period

sen 2021 is properly rated, its literally just a streamer team nobody pays them much mind or thinks they are amazing - but they were def the best team itw at that time

optic is only overrated if you have them in top 5 teams of all time, if you dont you're good

why do you reply with an acomplishment, as if they can't be over rated even with that in mind

I didn't say they suck

FPX were pretty vividly the best team itw, and they had not been allowed to attend, however the next event they attended, they won won of the most competitive tournaments

Reply with your reasoning and I will rate your ragebait

1. optic 2022, consistent but tbh only has a trophy bc of politics

cant really name other teams, sorry, just optic today

tbf its a very good spin on what religion was meant to be from a philosophical standpoint

very culturally relevant today and although the show isnt really that good in terms of hype the signifigance of "love thy neighbor" is way more important than the corny i have no enemies stuff

in fiction is einar from vinland saga

do you think bagre * bagre = not bagre? is this your mathematical logic

best is vyse chamber and vyse deadlock

theyre just throating chronicle who anyone knows is a better player when we can literally see in an objective matter that f0rsaken has no weakness on his agent pool while chronicle does

well i think chronicle is better at valorant but i just think f0rsaken can actually look decent on any agent, not just any role

cant really put chronicle on neon can ya

viper plays like a sentinel

either way f0rsaken plays more agents at a higher level, idk why this is a discussion,

the gap has definitely closed from before but theres still a gap

chronicle is good at what he plays but f0rsaken plays everything

chronicle has >20 maps played on 7 agents, f0rsaken on 13 agents - longer history on different agents

f0rsaken plays all four roles consistently, and has always been like this, chroncile historically on fnc was a breach raze viper player, and has picked up senti after alfa himself started flexing,

he still is really only senti/flash while f0rsaken has played init controller duelist recently

forsaken is better at flex chronicle is better at valorant

sheydos is a fucking legend retard

i watched the matches and i think he really underperformed vs liquid in lcq

outside of that sheydos or nats outperformed him statwise at every event, and i think nats contributes more to round winning outside of stats due to map control and lurks

as for champs 2024, chronicle was better than derke vs sen and blg, but derke was better vs the rest of the teams and especially heretics tbh - idk if chronicle had better stats at the tournament but if he did its bc of the blg match

he was not the best player on m3c, neither split 1, 2 or LCQ, derke was better at champs, and he was their best player at ewc

so, split 2 2024, champs 2021, ewc 2025

those above are the events chronicle has been the best player on his team

he has good rating at a bunch of events because hes on dominant teams, but in 4 years of competition, best player(on his team) at 3 events

b0sk carried vs barca, sayonara sold two maps

apeks was the first good team kaajak has played on,

kpi and dvm are much better than a lot of t2 teams,

im referring to him saying t2 career, kaajak has outperformed his tier 2 career in tier 1

started off strong except bumicle won that berlin trophy fair and square

other two takes are doodoogarbage

he wasnt the best player in ascension or split 1 spain, and honestly sevire and starxo are just as good in france

bit hard glaze here, hes really not that much better than kaajak keiko or lar0k for example, its just that hes never faced actual competition in tier 2

Kpi and dvm were in contention to win ascension, kaajak is 21 and has spent years in t3/2 on shit teams, he got one good team and brokeout

hes literally played in very good teams lol

if anything kaajak was the one stuck on shit teams for a long time

because entrying is different than FK

then who? ramgi?

loud would commit war crimes vs nrg

LMFAOOO "HES JUST GONNA WAIT HES A FKN BAITER"

rip man

sayonara is washed at 17

watch netflix in german to learn grammar and use apps like duolingo for vocab

german easiest language ive learned after italian

pancada aint sabotage shit he carries

aspas is literally a cutiepie

saadhak was calling extremely well at ewc

less joined a superteam wym prefers money, his peers didnt do THEIR Job how is it his fault

nobody should be hated he should just be fired

pancada aspas and saadhak are still doing good, less is fine just on a bad team

you're just brainrot posting