You have Liquid over KC?

Talon doesn't have an import

Nvm I forgot Governer was American

GOAT

Wasn't it the same format last year

I completely understand, man. I do think Dep will keep doing well on duelist, though. I have full faith in SyouTa and CLZ to be able to set him up

I see, okay. Considering #179, I think I'll probably go with LuckeR tex Felix Click Vince. Thank you for your input :)

Maybe so. Great work on this regardless!

Lol all g
There are two options here:

1. You send me your tracker, I take your stats and plug those in instead of VLR stats (should still work)
2. There's no integer limit so I just make all your stats infinity and you automatically win the tournament

There's no way man 😭

Source?

He said his idea was to make Harbor a viable counter for the spam meta, kill two birds with one stone. Here's the full video if you want to watch it, which includes his ideas for Phoenix, Sage, Gekko, and Cypher: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXChKkm6Gd4

No clue where the idea came from but people are saying he's becoming a controller main

The speculation is:
Duelist - marteen
Initiator - avez
Flex/igl - Saadhak
Controller - SUYGETSU
Sentinel - Elite

Technically they dropped b0i and Patiphan, but no

Yeah exactly. Dude's underrated if anything

Brother when was anyone EVER glazing C0M this year 😭 stop hating on the guy, he's too wholesome to deserve this kinda thing

I think so too

He was brought in by the org to replace nzr, whom aspas wanted to play with, and then performed poorly to start the year. I'm guessing why this guy and his 2 other accounts are entirely dedicated to hating on C0M (it's a stupid hecking reason though)

The only non-Jett map where they played Jett was Bind, and even then they weren't running a bad comp for the time

CN best region???

Damn they gotta update their website then

I think a lot of them are just repping where they come from like tex/jawgemo/Demon1 do

If we're talking 2024 G2 vs. 2024 PRX, I don't think it's too much of a stretch

Here were my ideas from a while back:

• High Tide (E) cooldown decreased from 40 >> 30 seconds (in line with the other smokes in the game)
• High Tide (E) maximum bend increased from 180 >> 270 degrees per second (basically makes it easier to curve the wall)
• High Tide (E) and Cascade (C) slow changed from 30% >> 0% for allies and 30% >> 50% for enemies
• Cove (Q) cost decreased from 350 >> 300 credits (you can buy it with a ghost on pistol)
• Reckoning (X) stun windup decreased from 1.35 >> 1 second (you can't shift walk out of his ult now)

I also saw a video from Anderzz (an analyst who works with FNATIC) where he had an amazing idea: reduce the damage dealt by bullets when they go through Harbor's smokes. Obviously all my changes + his idea would be WAY too much, so I think either or. You either wanna buff everything, or just rework the one thing that'll make him see a ton of play

G2 with any 4 of their players would still hard counter Paper Rex, I think

Oh yeah, I remember that!

I wonder if that means they're affiliated with the VCT CN team. Maybe they scrim and stuff. Maybe that's how Wolves beat EDG in Stage 2...

Harbor's getting a big buff in the next month + Pearl's coming back. So don't be so sure :)

Evil Geniuses is sponsored by Wolverhampton Wolves.

No, I'm not joking.

Mazino was better at Harbor and that's what really matters

It's happened before with me, but I was in deathmatch. It was a server problem. Not much you can do about it other than wait for Riot/whoever's managing the server to fix the issue

Je sais un peu de français aussi, mai je ne parle pas très bien 😅

Glad I was able to help 👍
(That being said join me in supporting KC in 2025!!! Allez les bleus!!)

This is why Illinois clears

100% agree with this. There's a reason they extended ENGH to 2027, and that reason is developing young talent. Also their fanbase is MASSIVE. This is what happened after just a rumour on Twitter: https://streamable.com/9rww5t

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• EG does a lot of scouting and runs programs for players they find interest in (see https://youtu.be/UNCh69AyIRk for an example). Their rosters have historically been groups of scrappy young talents and rejects who always manage to defy expectations and, under a great coach, make lengths they probably shouldn't (this year they were one game off playoffs, last year they actually won Champions after getting 13-0'd earlier in the year). In fact, their coach potter alone is a great reason to be a fan of the team
• LOUD are probably not a good choice for you, I just thought I'd throw them in there because they met the criteria for that one point
• Cloud9 has the least number of fans of any team in NA, so you'd have that going for you. And I don't know what their financial situation is but orgs should be looking to pick up players from tier 2 anyway, especially in NA. v1c is a really good player and I have a hunch we'll see that next year
• Your opinion on NRG is fair, but honestly, if you're gonna support a team, you might as well do it for the players, y'know? They're picking up mada and Verno this year, both of whom are young and ready to prove themselves
• Karmine Corp focused a LOT on building talent last year (marteen, N4RRATE, and tomaszy were all duelists from tier 2) but it didn't go well for them because the team had a huge issue with midrounding. This year the team is bringing in more experienced players in Saadhak, SUYGETSU, and Elite (mostly because they're the biggest French org and Champions is in Paris) but they're still keeping the idea of building talent in mind by keeping marteen and adding avez, who's an amazing flex player (and I'm pretty sure the only player in the league) from MENA. Their team also focuses a lot more on trying to innovate and come up with new ideas (ENGH and Saadhak are both very good at this), so they'll be playing different stuff than most other teams

I still feel bad for Klaus lmao

Here are my thoughts:

• Former M80 Players
  Your options here are Sentinels (johnqt), 100 Thieves (eeiu + zander), and Natus Vincere (koalanoob + Happy, though both are technically still leaks and could be subject to change)
• Vision includes winning and making a legacy not just brand exposure and money
  This applies to most orgs so I won't make a note here
• They often prioritize new, young and rising talent
  Americas teams that come to mind are Evil Geniuses (they're very dedicated to building talent and the org has a program for it). Other teams such as LOUD, Cloud9, Made in Brazil, and NRG are doing building rosters next year where they mix experienced veterans with rising stars. Also do keep in mind a few teams are gonna have academy teams in tier 2 next year, such as Leviatán
• They care about their community like they often make content, give out goodies and listen to their fans etc.
  No one Americas org jumps out at me for this category. I do know Paper Rex and Karmine Corp are very connected with their fanbases, though, probably more than most orgs in all of esports
• I don't care about history as long as their is no controversies or bad brand image (such as BLEED) as long as their willing to make history
  Again, this is almost every org, so I won't make a note
• I am Muslim, Canadian and South Asian and so I would love to support teams/players that I can relate to
  The Muslims in VCT that I know of are d4v41 from Paper Rex, johnqt from Sentinels, and avez and ZEISH from Karmine Corp, but there could be more

Overall, I think your best options, in order, are Sentinels, Karmine Corp, and Paper Rex. I'm biased because it is my favourite team (2025) but I think you should consider Karmine Corp :)

Leviatán snaked no one bro

That's fine, honestly. His Neon is pretty good from what I've seen, anyway

Nvm then 😅

Are we gonna act like elllement, aNguiSt, DaviH, and Vince don't all deserve to be in tier 1?

"First"???? Brother what 💀 you planning on getting a second or smth?

Am I tripping or did they go from BETA to BETA2? Did anything change at all?

Nah all g I get where you're coming from

Lanthanide. It's the first element in the segment you see taken out of the table and put at the bottom

I'm pulling an Elon, buying the company and throwing it into ruin so that we never get another movie in this franchise ever again

Oh no, don't worry, I'm on the same page. I'm just saying it's a pretty obvious place to start if you're gonna make a thread like this