*when

Comparing Soulcas playing in a T1 match versus Flor playing immortals in a T4 match is stupid as shit.

Flor is a mickey mouse t4 duelist who can't even make it past random T3 pugstack teams in open quals. Soulcas made it to T1 through T2 and ascension. Soulcas clears easily lol

Saying someone who actually can make it through T2 into T1 is worse than a T4 duelist who got gatekept by T3 players is def bait.

So Flor doesn't pass the minimum requirement then? Lol

No NA team is going to pick up a t4 duelist especially if they get smacked in EMEA.

https://www.vlr.gg/427056/florescent-soulcas
You literally made the post lmao wym

Maybe don't make a stupid bait post about Flor > Soulcas?

Apeks is not making it to masters LOL

Ya he joined at the start of last year.

They brought back Mitch. Look at C9 vals latest twitter post.

oxy is good but Rossy was playing the best during the off season while IGL'ing and being on initiator compared to Oxy on duelist.

Back then C9 became broke as shit so they couldn't afford Yay anymore. No way the same thing happened with Rossy.

This seems dumb af though. They had their chance to get Mitch + Rossy awhile ago and decided against it.

I'd rather have Rossy lmao

If this is real, genuinely fuck C9. Clown ass org.

They're orgless. If they did qual to T1, Riot would just find them an org.

they're ok.

edg exposed by dfm and prx playing a meta comp on ascent (right before it gets taken out lmao).

He'd be fine in T1 but competition is stiff. He's not a clear upgrade over anyone in NA T1 at least. Derrek is probably the worst info initiator value wise in NA T1 and even then he's still solid.

It's funny since no one says that super ranked players Karon/Primmie spanking T1 players regionally means Pacific is washed but if super ranked players in T2 do it, then it means NA is washed lol.

I rate him as the worst one on that team tbh. nightz/cane are probably the most exciting players on that team

I know shitmea with 0 trophies last year ain't talking about gamesense LMAO

That argument only makes sense if T2 teams are recycling shit players and Brawk is actually good.

Apeks is picking up someone for dropping 30+ against immortals so maybe you can be their fifth lol.

"u cant really call this cope"
ya I can

gc champs maybe lmao

Cypher or KJ over Chamber on Fracture. And brim over viper on Fracture.
Cypher or KJ bring more value compared to Chamber. And the best fracture team (EG) never ran Viper (same with FNC), so Brim clears.

Primmie wins because he can already play more than 1 meta agent in games that matter and he's only been a pro for half a year.

Teams will def change before going into stage 1 and teams will have more practice time. I def see a different T2 team being able to surpass them. For all we know, some of rankers players could get poached to a different T2 team if the money is right.

If people are fine with Karon/Primmie (2 ranked players) getting picked up right from ranked and doing well regionally, then it's not a negative thing if rankers make it to T1 in Americas.

It literally is a gigantic downgrade though lmao. Or are you gonna try to pretend a t4 duelist is anywhere close to the level of kaajak?

No? He's already gotten as popular as he realistically can as an ex pro. And he'd lose money since any time he spends scrimming/playing matches etc is time he could be spending streaming since he'd almost certainly make more money streaming than playing.

It's only an issue if they actually win Ascension since they have 2 players that are 16. So they wouldn't be able to play for part of the season they qualed for.

I think initiator because you have to actually know how to use your util well and it's not as easy as other roles util.

When Neon is a thing, duelist is not the hardest role lol.

Cane/nightz are 16 so if they did ascend, it'd be rough to find replacements and still perform well.

If there was no age minimum, I think they'd be lower in Americas but maybe squeeze out a win or 2 with some proper coaching.

Going from Kaajak to Flor kills any chance of Apeks not getting absolutely farmed lmao.

Impossible when they have the biggest downgrade in history going from Kaajak to Flor. Losing soulcas is also rough.

It's not clear if SEN academy will exist if Reduxx gets signed to the main team. That team seems to only exist rn so reduxx can play and do something on the bench.

They're 16 so can't

Said who?

cned absolutely clears flor lol.

johnqt/narrate have only tried it for one off season event? It can still work out and they could always try a zellsis/narrate role swap anyway.

True but he won champs IGL'ing from senti. Although he wasn't a lurker since they already had c0m for that.

if those "other plebs" are t4 gc players, then sure.

talent pool seems to be weak and/or apeks knows they're fucked anyway so might as well get some publicity before getting auto relegated.

https://www.vlr.gg/348471/100-thieves-vs-paper-rex-champions-tour-2024-masters-shanghai-lr2

0/8

Or just replace Tomazy with an actually good player? Taking purp0 off of duelist would be dumb if he can perform on it.