First seeds only play second seeds for the first match which can be the difference between playing EDG or playing Trace which is huge for the first game

G2 and SEN always shoot each others bodies its nothing new. He was crying not cause he was upset about other people being mean but cause he was disappointed that he played poorly

historically its defense sided, but its been more attack sided as of late with the new comps

Missed the TH Liquid game what the heck happened? Are TL actually good or is TH just terrible

Are you doing alright? You seem unnecessarily aggressive here

they played like shit and lost. And now look how Kaplan turned them around

either way they're in bangkok gf is just for seeding

yeah I think they're still finding their footing, I have liked a lot of their ideas, and they're finding out where the ideas work for them, and where its better for them to go more standard. Feels like they have a very high ceiling this year

idk if we can go that far lol

Kaplan is such a W coach, maybe not the type of coach who is known for crazy strats, but he always gets his players to play at their best

yeah idk tex and kingg are good, and demon1 looked a lot better in his last game which gives room for hope. If they can figure out their roles, I think Lev could for sure fight for top 3

I think it just means that SEN is closer to G2 than they showed. G2 is the best team rn don't get me wrong but SEN are better than they showed yesterday

yeah for sure, just countering saying that its vct NA. I do think NA probably the strongest of the Americas regions, but latam and brazil aren't terrible (apart from 2g and furia)

I'd say these teams have the potential to be from low A to B tier but yeah most of them will probably end high B

Honestly, there's like 6 teams that look at the same level for the #3 spot. 100T, NRG, MIBR, LOUD, LEV, and KRU all could have made it to #3 had a couple things gone differently. Which makes americas look worse than it actually is cause all those teams just beat up on each other so no one knows who is actually good

damn incredible pickems unlucky on the FURIA one who could've seen that coming

eh, I think SEN could have a much better showing if they turn up in good form. Still think G2 are best ITW rn and should win, but SEN could definitely make it closer. Just need someone else to beat G2 in Bangkok for them if they're gonna win it all

Mix of both I think. They came out incredibly flat against G2+every 50/50 and weird timing went against SEN against G2. Not that they would've won had the timings been better but they definitely look a lot better

He just went +46 last game lol give him a break

I mean 4 of the top 6 were brazil and latam I think it's fine

SEN fans are different than "sen" fans

drops a casual 20k in the first half

He's simply the best player of all time

He might be the greatest of all time

FRICK

Ban abyss please ban abyss please ban abyss

I would love it. Ik SEN has so much more potential but their form has been so off this kickoff. The fact that SEN made it this far in such a low form is encouraging in a way cause their ceiling is so much higher than they've shown but it still is nerve-racking

I think its just a curve of getting used to his role and the new team. He's shown that he is a very good player, he's just not comfortable rn. This is why I think SEN will be insane at the middle/end of the season, but might not get there during kickoff. N4RRATE and Bang just need to have more time with the team

Yeah SEN is a W org for how they treat their players. Sucks cause there's a ton of people who r bandwagon fans that suck but the org itself is incredible

SEN 2025 Fracture >>>>> 2023 EG Fracture in terms of dominance and it's not even close (I'm coping and they haven't even played the map yet)

Bro SEN supported sinatraa for years during all the drama why wouldn't I stick with them? I became a fan for the team, I just knew of them cause I recognized sinatraa and then they got TenZ which was huge and they won the first major so like obv I stuck with them.

And yeah he was nuts at Zarya, and also played like tracer and probably some other stuff I don't remember

Came from Overwatch so I knew sinatraa so was my favorite team by default

Bro is trying his best can only carry SEN so far on his own

Bad comp on SEN's worst map don't understand the thought process here at all

I just don't get why SEN banned Split, where they have a strong meta comp and won their last map on, over Abyss, and then came out with nothing on the side that they chose? Makes no sense

doesn't matter he dies either way and no one damaged him so he didn't give G2 a kill

it was pistols he needed to die

its been 3 rounds chill

Comp is fine SEN just dont do well on Abyss

I love SEN but I don't think I've ever seen us do well on Abyss. I hate this map guess we gotta win both Pearl and Fracture lol

yeah idk

I'd have to say:
Wardell for duelist
Sinatraa for flex
Hiko for initiator
Zombs for Controller
Dapr for Sentinel

Tomorrow!!! Nadshot got all mad for no reason :)

First to do it since that one team did it at the first ever LAN

Yeah for sure, both teams showed out today and could definitely make it

Have to be feeling optimistic no? NRG, LEV, and most likely LOUD all crashing out has to make them favorites to make it out of Americas more than they were already.

Tier 1: VIT and TH
Tier 2: FUT
Tier 3: FNC, BBL, TL M8
Tier 4: KC, NAVI, GX
Tier 5: 5 random immortal 2 players
Tier 6: KOI and Apeks

at the level they have been playing at maybe, but LOUD probably wins if they play how they did last time against KRU and SEN

zekken and s0m gonna have to go +30 each just to make it a close game

demon1 isn't an entry player, never has been. he top fragged the series, leave him alone

he has had a horrendous time since leaving EG and he finally has a decent game and still gets crapped on lol