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That performs better in Bo5s than in Bo3s?

We fundamentally aren't agreeing on the volume of utility it takes to actually clear everything a team wants.

If it was that easy for other initiators to pick up the slack, every single tier 1 team would be running double/triple initiator with Tejo on every map, in every single game.

But the fact is that Tejo is an agent who looks a lot stronger in valoplant, before he has to take into account what the enemy does to force his utility to be used in less-than-optimal ways. This will always be the primary weakness of initiators, and it's something that's hard for us fans to see because we aren't in the pros' pov fumbling in the dark.

I do think his salvo is a little too strong, but again it's just because of the 40s cooldown. The ability itself is not so oppressive as to merit only a singular cast on an initiator who would have no other regenerating utility. Let's not forget how strong Sova dart and Fade eye and Breach stun are too.

But how many scenarios are you denying defuse with Tejo missiles in a way that you couldn't with any other molly? The fact that it's iPad utility that's easy to use isn't the issue, but the fact that it has low cooldown. Just make the cooldown like 50-60s and then he has to choose between using it for site hits or for stalling defuse, like any other molly.

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I'm gonna be honest too, that's a weird conclusion to jump to off of anecdotal experience.

You're underestimating the fog of war in tac shooters. Even with all the abilities that initiators and sentinels have now, it's very hard to precisely pinpoint where every enemy is throughout a round. It's why there's still so many contact plays, why there's so many off-angle kills, why teams will fully run the clock down before committing to a site, etc.

Having as little utility as you suggest doesn't make it more thoughtful; it just limits creative expression. It's like what happened to Astra when she had 4 stars: she ended up having almost nothing to use outside of smoking common chokes and saving a star for counter-flood/post-plant. It made her utterly boring because most uses outside of those scenarios was a shot in the dark rather than a particularly tactical choice.

If salvo cooldown was increased to something like 60s, it solves the problem of him having it for both site hits and post-plant, without robbing his team of the ability to make plays in the midround.

Also, you said it yourself. Running Tejo forces you to run a second initiator. He already possesses a high opportunity cost by making his team unable to run double controller + senti.

It's really not a Tejo-exclusive problem though. There's always going to be agent combinations that can dump utility on one spot of the map easily.

That's why devs are doing things like removing minimap pings to nerf post-plant meta in other ways rather than going agent-by-agent.

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The 2 Astra stars are the problem... it's not more winnable if you have Breach ult or Sova ult or Deadlock ult or Raze ult instead of Tejo ult.

Because he won't be able to contest space in the midround. A crucial strength of initiators is that they have things like flashes, dogs, and darts (and importantly multiple of them) so that they can re-clear space as needed.

If he had one drone and one set of missiles he will either fire them at nothing in the start of the round or save them the whole round for a site hit/exec. Both of those scenarios leave the entire rest of the round for the enemy team to go and punish you for running an agent with no utility.

It's like if Omen smokes didn't recharge because, well, paranoia is a broken ability. Why would he need more utility?

He is not a jack of all trades. He has no flashes and he has no recharging recon. One breakable drone does not replace everything. There's a reason all three of those agents are still regularly picked.

If the ability didn't recharge he'd be useless. He's an initiator, not a duelist. How is he gonna compete against recharging recon and flashes with three pieces of utility across the whole round?

He is not "stupid broken" if there's any nerf it would be to the cooldown of missiles

Riot probably wants to release the agent as soon as Bangkok is over so that teams have time to prepare for stage 1

2G is that 5th guy man this is fucked up

I think it's just that it takes longer to cancel out movement inaccuracy in CS. If you're used to val, your shots might be missing because you think you've stopped moving but you actually haven't. When I play CS I have to deliberately delay my first shot by a lot to be accurate.

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Ok but fr why does this team not clear Americas? All their players are good, they have a smart IGL and coach, their core has been together for a while. Like what's not clicking?

Cypher makes sense bc the map is lurk city. It's Kayo who should be swapped for Viper. Sova is fine as a solo ini with double smokes.

Yes, for a long time already. In the off-season, he showed he can be a great player.

Chances they lose iktr

How do you know what they're doing at night

Again the problem is that there's actually a very narrow window for swinging off your own flashes on Gekko/Skye/Kayo/Breach compared to Phoenix and Yoru. I've tried playing Gekko and it's not bad but tbh Fade feels a lot better for selfish play, except for having Wingman plant in 1vX scenarios.

Oh they literally don't shoot? I mean that's totally a bannable offense but I'm sure these kids only do it on alts.

What do you mean by "no body only heals"?

Facts

Also do we know what the round 2 matchups will be?

Are you an owl or smth?

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Enough with the ch0tgpt of course it's gonna give you the obvious safe answer. What do you think it's taking info from?

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It's just the first seeds tbh. Hate to say it but lulquid might be 5th.

I'm so with you on not trusting teammates. I've been trying that too.

But imo recon initiator is a lot better for that than flash initiator bc you're always able to play off of info, and being in the backline lets you bait and clutch. It feels a lot better than Kayo or Breach for example where you're just worse Phoenix if nobody swings off your flashes and stuns.

Okay okay okay damn I was just wondering

f0reskin having low sens is crazy

Why does he play on 400 dpi wtf

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yoru ult is also the same problem, hence the "get out of jail free button" but it's just an ult and not a signature

It's just ass tbh you have teams throwing all of their utility into empty space because they don't want to risk peeking into a chamber/jett merchant posted up on an off-angle.

And for what? Some highlight reels of a pro playing aimlabs? It's way more fun watching someone finesse their way through utility without a get out of jail free button.

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I do watch a lot of pro play but it's kinda hard to focus just on what the recon player is doing and not the whole team

I bet ur a sentinel main

Facts

me when I need to learn the agent

Calisthenics is the way to go tbh I can't be bothered to leave the house

Yeah I'm very conservative with my utility in ranked. I wanna learn the role because of just how powerful it is to have solid info on enemy presence midround and bc it's more reliant on raw gunfights than agents with flashes, smokes, or trips.

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