TSM 2-1, T1 might look strong but I think TSM has more firepower overall.

Not necessarily. Icebox is one of the weaker maps for Sova, just ahead of Split and Breeze.

Yeah they threw like 2-3 rounds where GenG were on pistols....and that should have hurt morale. Split's long ass game which was in GenG favor, should have hurt TSM morale. But what happened? TSM win.....Lets gooo

Hyped asf and might be biased but damn that felt good to watch

They lost every single damn pistol round, were always down during the half except for Bind, and ended up winning the series.

#TSMFTXWIN

Hazed is a great player but as an IGL, he's still questionabe in my eyes

gMd played like crazy today......

BRO WE CAME BACK FROM A PISTOL ROUND LOSS TOO WTF

He was a life saver in the last few rounds especially.

Im 17, but 1000 more strands of white hair have grown for me

LONGEST MATCH BUT WORTH IT. TSM CLUTCHED THAT WIN FROM 3-9

No, Valorant servers close after 90 mins

Its 2077. I'm still watching the TSM vs GenG match. I had 2 children, 3 grandchildren, and the game is still going on. Hazed is a few years from celebrating his 100th birthday, Subroza's son is playing for him, Bang is no longer young, and Leviathan is still unsigned. Wardell has over 5000 kills confirmed and TSM has map point but Nature 1v4 clutches. My wife is yelling at me and I'm about to pass out soon.

Not sure but TSM vs GenG has to be top 3..

his undying support for Wardell keeps us moving on the forums lmao

Indeed so.

#TSMFTXWIN

I thought his baits were plenty funny to be totally honest lmao

beb0p hasn't been here in a hot minute

you came to the wrong part of town buddy

#TSMFTXWIN

Wardell boutta end gMd's career haha

On a serious note, I think it'll be a decently close game in TSM's favor

Sen should be able to win 3-1 or 3-2 in decently dominant fashion. Acend are great but since they haven't made any international appearances, its really hard to judge their accomplishments against a foreign team that has.

Soniqs were at the top of OCE and since no one knew how regions compared to each other back then, it wasn't the worst gamble to switch over. Plus, they gained way more money and attention when switching over. Furthermore, a more developed and colorful scene just makes it easier to get better.

Its kinda like when Icebox first released. No one wanted to play it because it was just so new and little strats have been developed.

Granted, I think Breeze is the most inconsistent map for playability regardless of strats and scrims. The map design is just so overwhelming to the point that its almost chance based what happens. Too many variables to account for is what makes this map basically unpredictable + inconsistent for many teams to snag a win.

As for EU, it could partially be because of their playstyle and how strats differ pretty drastically from NA to EU. Open space and basically using initiators for awhile now.

I really doubt even S1mple would be able to conquer valorant that quickly. It took him years to completely master and control the mechanics of CS. But the problem is that CS mechanics is fundementally so much different from Valorant that it would be almost a complete 180 for him. Not only that but Valorant mechanics aren't as "clutch" oriented and the skill cap is far lower; this isn't to say that valorant is easier since it has abilities to compensate. S1mple's dominance is heavily reliant on how gifted he is mechanically and he knows he can abuse that advantage over everyone. Valorant probably can't do the same things for him that CS can.

They can definitely be a top 3 team in under a year with how new Valorant is currently so there is that. But expecting 3 months of playtime to get them to top 3 is probably a bit idealistic.

Oh nice, very up north so probably a huge dichotomy from India right? How do you like it so far?

100t probably dropped more money than Sentinels did. Sen's most expensive player prior to TenZ was Sinatraa, who was basically the best paid player in the entire scene (tied with nitr0). Considering they had Hiko originally (big bucks cause of streams and his name from CS) as the anchor with 4 players, he is probably very well paid. Steel and Nitr0 as well (especially nitr0), with Asuna probably behind the rest of them. Ethan is also probably up there with Nitr0 in terms of salary. Not to mention, they have a benched player, albeit cheap, but still under contract.

Sentinels original roster, other than Sinatraa, probably weren't paid too much considering Sinatraa was not only the best paid, but was considered the anchor for Sentinels (much like Hiko) for fire power; They struck gold with relatively unknown CS players (other than Shahzam and upcoming talent Dapr).

Its hazed but from Wardells coms video, it seemed like Wardell was calling some shots.

unlucky really

you are the first person with a faze flair that I've seen in a while....

It's annoying asf but thats just how it is. Being a TSM is pretty much the worst thing to be on this site since you get downvoted to shit. But its whatever since you can't do much about it.

beb0ps brother?

Do you actually watch all those teams? wtf

don't do that...

Send a pic of the cake if TSM does make it to Berlin

When you said "botzera", no clue why I thought of Coldzera instead of mwzera when the title literally says mwzera.

And no tf.

No clue but he is an obvious pick up from his performance.

Though, baiters will say that TSM is trying to pick up sinatraa...

I think s0m and Android are both really good players but NRG just sucks at the moment.

I really don't think my take was bad at all.....TL is good but I never considered them the best...

Please don't use my flair against me, makes you look dumb asf rn.

Dunno, I never really thought they were the best team in EU despite reaching iceland. So them losing in these qualifiers wasn't really suprising to me.

I think you completely misunderstood my point.

True, but I can't see the longevity for some of those games lasting another 10 years.

Melee is a special case because people who play melee, generally speaking, hate the newer models and find the newer games just not competitive which is understandable.

CSGO for the longest time was the staple for the FPS sport and now that Valorant is here, it actually has "true" competition.

I never said it would take over football.

My words exactly were, "Give it 15-20 years and that could potentially start to show signs of happening"

Key words "show signs of happening." Considering how much money people younger than 20 can make nowadays shows potential to an extent already.

Yeah, that is the one flaw with esports. A game won't stay mainstream forever, and publishers are going to abandon it after awhile and move on to other things.

But the esport scene is also driven by the improvement in technology as it continues to involve itself with the people of society. 15 years ago, no one expected people to have pocket computers and now practically everyone does. The industry's success is also built off of how fast tech improves (console and pc etc) and how accessible it is to everyone. Part of the problem right now is accessibility, as hardware requirements inhibit people from playing games they would want to play. If it is more accessible, it means more players, which incentivizes publishers to push out more content or invest more into their game.

Granted, diminishing marginal utility actually applies (more frequently) to esports unlike physical sports, so something needs to change in order for the industry to even make it to the stage Sports currently have.

Franchising is a thing you know? Which means leagues?

The problem with esports is broadcasting times at the moment. There is no definite time for a game to end so that hurts broadcasting on television.

Considering how just 10 years ago, people were lucky to be making past $25k in a tournament, any large esport now have prize pools upwards in the millions. It might be a stretch, but in 15-20 years, it could very well overtake the industry.

He played duelist at the beginning of NRG and I don't think it worked out too well

Give it 15-20 years and that could potentially start to show signs of happening considering how fast digitalization has taken over the world.

Probably First Strike and the shit talk that went down then? Where Hazed said TSM would sweep 100t but lost 1-3. The csgo drama was between Sen and 100t, not TSM. Though, funny enough, Hazed and Cutler were part of the IBP game so that's interesting (not like they were apart of the scandal tho).

I see, yeah that makes sense. I remembered him being really bummed out about not being able to play. Now that NRG isn't allowed to play in the Nerd ST tournaments because of their VCT placements (?), he can compete in the smaller tournaments.

Skye and Kay/o, although not classified duelists, can be played as pseudo duelists basically. Like Skye is just a superior version of phoenix in all ways and Kay/o has a decent flash but still not totally in meta right now.

I don't think they need nerfs since nerfing them in any way right now would kinda de-power them out of play. Skye might need a slight nerf though since she is a top 4 agent at the moment and is just such a good agent.

I mean, he is listed on the roster.

As to why? Pretty sure he wanted to compete for awhile now. Because his contract was for streaming and because Soar had an actual team, he couldn't compete and I think he complained on twitter once before. Even though he's in NRG now, something must have changed in order for him to be able to join a roster.