idk did Zeek and Pancada lose their drives

"after they dropped babyj and ec1s"

He couldn't have been igl because he got released from the team

I think it is more so they don't want to compete with themselves. There are 3 major leagues, as well as tier 2 and game changers and League of Legends. The ladder of which is still the biggest and gets the most of the viewership and time put into it. Maybe in a few years, things will be different but at this rate, it is looking like it will be a while before a stable schedule is in play.

He was igl for 100T after they dropped babyj and ec1s, it was only for a couple weeks but still.

It is based on org performance regardless of who was playing on it or who isnt anymore since it is now franchising, In the past (2022) it was slightly different) for example 100T got a bye pass open quals because they kept 3/5 players. if they started from scratch with an all-new roster then they would have had to go through open quals. EG gets a bye even though they only retained one player and their coach because its franchising and there are no open quals anymore. (having an uneven amount of teams also might have complicated things a bit)

yall aint ready for the martian claims

They were never the best in NA maybe 2nd in 2021 but they were always behind sentinels. At that time they just had a brand new roster and the best NA team was considered to be Cloud9 and the guard were rookies but they won that challengers split beating sen c9 and optic. 13-0 sucks but they were one round away from winning 2-0. Their peak was the comeback on Breeze against Acend. Which in hindsight was still great but mattered very little as they got clapped by Envy right after and Acend qualified for and won champs.

Afterwards, as M3C they also could not qualify they were always close but could not do it.

I stg you have the worst takes I've ever seen

Just NA dickriding and weird hate for Fnatic players over and over

Team Ludwig did kind of clear though

The players are athletes just like in any other sports and while it is their job to compete it is also their job to put on a show/perform. They are performing in front of thousands of people. Every tournament's number one goal is to entertain and be a show for the audience (and bring in money obviously). It's why in fighting games the boring campy players get more hate, or why in this game a lot of people don't like EMEA because of their slower style(or they are brainwashed by regional rivalry which does not mean anything), or why Overwatch died because that game just sucks.

TLDR Players are performers and every tournament is a showcase tournament meant for the audience to have fun. So stop coping and discounting tournaments because your favorite team lost or your most hated team won or over who will win Madrid and just consume.

dont forget
https://www.vlr.gg/183786/nrg-esports-vs-mibr-champions-tour-2023-americas-league-w3

But did you pray today🙏

SEN because of that they did to Cody IBDW
EG because obvious

You didn't give anything, you just spouted the same braindead copes repeatedly (and will probably reply with the same insults again).
If that is your genuine answer then you really are just a complete idiot who has no understanding of the game.
You lost the right to ever type anything to me again.
Stay Coping Stay Crying.

https://www.vlr.gg/161163/detonation-focusme-vs-fnatic-riot-games-one-pro-invitational-showmatch-dfm

Pearl as well

All 5 of FNC were better than all 5 of NRG, FNC and BLG clapped them Its Okay, let it go. Maybe this year will be different, maybe not. For now, lets just see them play in the regional league.

you all said this about nrg 2023 vs fnc and we all know how that went. Face it we probably won't even get to see them play each other. Focus on NRG v SEN for now.

I would say something similar about KOI 2023 since that roster also looked stacked but that is a whole other mess.

I am not calling them bad. The whole point was that it does not matter how good a roster is on paper if the team cohesion isn't there it's over for them. SEN 2023 was an example.

Remember the 2023 SEN roster and how good everyone thought it was on paper (Depph was good at champs, calling him out is just hindsight bias) They fumbled. There were several internal issues ore whatever and maybe Dephhs gameplay was not the greatest but it still looked good on paper. With marved things looked better but not by much. So what does this make for NRG. I think they will be a lot better than both 2023 sen and nrg but it all depends on how well the players mesh.

Let it go, you already said this once. Honestly, with the way things go even if both qualify they may not even play each other. (I think FNC is better but they have been together for a year so they kind of have to be)

Once again the only one coping and crying is you. All you did was just repeat yourself and give 0 rebuttal. FInd new copes beyond Mickey Mouse tournament and rat strats (Which is both just untrue). You only call them the worst events because they won and you know it. You and the EMEA dumbasses use the same braindead copes when the other region wins. Your copes used to be funny now they are just pathetic. Get some creativity going.

They literally only lost to 1 team, if losing to loud makes you overrated trash then I guess the entire Americas league is overrated trash. We get that you have some weird parasocial obsession with boaster and derke but you have got to find more creative copes than just calling their wins Mickey Mouse tournaments and saying the same thing anytime someone brings them up. Unless you are in a contest with yessirski to see who can cope and cry more.

hby

https://tiermaker.com/create/vct-2024-all-teams-924719-5

Ethan and Leo is not the comparison, it should be c0m and Leo. Ethan makes more sense to be compared to chronicle(Even then I don't think there is much of a comparison since they are still pretty different)

Trexx (top 2 flex itw)
RunneR (top 3, or top 5 duelist itw)

What is this based off of, in what way are they top 5 itw.

Leo is who you think c0m, Ethan, Crashies, and Cauanzin are and that is the objective truth

no, they lost to loud twice so they are not undefeated against Americas only against NA

true, that is why they are undefeated against all NA teams

none of them were flukes. Calling something a fluke is just coping

Same as last year ngl they peak at maybe 5th/6th

they can, they literally only lost to one team that heavily anti-stratted them. They probably will lose to some more teams this year but they can still pull off a win.

Would you call yourself an elitist

I know you are their biggest fan but you have got to find some more creative copes they are starting to get stale

you have just admitted to having 0 understanding of how the game works. You say they have the same executes when that is just not true. If you actually watch the matches you would see that they have multiple different plays and setups and are rarely ever relying on just alfajer or just one player, but keep crying. Fnatic will win again and you can cope more than we can all laugh.

Both those examples have been clowned on relentlessly and rightfully so. Both Eastern and Western shows show some unnecessary stuff, but in actual good shows, like game of thrones and Frieren, it does not take away from their overall quality.

I agree easy 4v5 vs everyone

I hope they do, its only a matter of time.

SA and APAC do not really cope that much so I did not include them

at least you will cope with self awareness if AM loses

You already know that the coping from both EU and NA is gonna be crazy based on whoever wins

"Only a 2 week qualifier"
"Only 8 teams"
"First tourney of the year"

Any other ones you guys can think of

I know they all count equally, and none of them were flukes, This post is just a troll making fun of people trying to cope, and discount wins just because a team they don't like won.

Facts

Masters Iceland 2021: SEN won not only without dropping a series but without dropping a map. Counts YES
Masters Berlin 2021: GMB won but lost to 100T in the group stage. Does not Count NO
Champs 2021: ACE lost to VK but got overturned because they cheated and proceeded to dominate everyone afterward. IDK ???
Masters Iceland 2022: Optic lost twice in the event in groups and in playoffs. Does not Count NO
Masters Copenhagen 2022: FPX with a full roster made a lower bracket run without losing. Counts YES
Champs 2022: LOUD lost to Optic in the group stage but dominated almost every other game they played. Still does not count. NO
Masters Tokyo 2023: FNC dominated everyone and only lost one map. Counts YES.
Champs 2023: EG lost to PRX in the upper finals. Does not Count. NO.

I did not include Lock//in because losing was not an option but it still counts.
This is according to you people's VLR logic so if you disagree ask yourself why.

Only true winners are
SEN
FPX
FNC

(IDK ABOUT ACEND?????? )

Don't worry the CCP is simply too strong.

They would not have run over PRX at Iceland, they were the ones that got ran over at Copenhagen. I do agree that they did get lucky quite a few times, but every successful team is lucky to some extent. DRX should have beaten them at Iceland, the other 2 were completely fair play. The roster might have been a bit overrated but their success was undeniable and definitely were a top 5 team.

I don't think all the blame can go on one player. Yes, Ardiis did underperform this series and has been pretty inconsistent this year overall but Crashies has been underperforming a lot this year too. It has mostly been Victor and s0m who have been doing good. FNS has had some pretty good calls and ideas but it's clear that this roster just gets outclassed by so many others in terms of firepower.

idk how true it is but FNS said something among the lines of he did not really want to travel too much anymore and stay home.