Yeah I remember that, I think SEN really struggled with the absense of sicK towards the end of year.

Yeah I haven't really kept up too much with MIBR and KRU apart from knowing Keznit left which was a huge shock to me because I really thought he was their best player and someone who 100% deserved a franchise spot. Furia and MIBR I haven't payed too much attention to because again I dont really follow them. Hoping for the best for all these teams though, just remember, the names you see now you may not see come 6 months from now or a year. Alot of these teams who dont have any form of success will recycle rosters.

Very true, I probably shouldn't have made it come across that it was soley Dapr's fault. I think it was more a fault on ShahZ and Rawkus. That Icebox game was a disaster and SEN were meme'd about it for awhile. It just always struck me as odd on why they didn't call the time out and talk about why their Viper was even planting the bomb in the first place.

Wait you make a good point here, in terms of talking about diviating from the gameplan multiple times and don't notice it? I always found it strange when Rawkus and ShahZ said "No Shroud planting the bomb was never the plan, Dapr should have been doing it" How did no one notice that many rounds in a row that they had no post plant util from their Viper because THEY WERE FUCKING DEAD PLANTING THE BOMB? How did Dapr, a PROFESSIONAL PLAYER not realise "Hey fuck, I don't have the bomb" or "Wait, why aren't I planting?" I'm not saying they were playing for stats but I just never understood how it went "unnoticed" for soo many rounds?

I don't hate c0m I think he's a fantastic player, but franchise worthy? probably not. Jawgemo for me really upped his performance towards the end of the calender year same with Boostio, but I feel like c0m has always been just the same, no improvement like his ceilling hasn't been reached or raised kinda thing. I think there are just much better players in NA that can play c0m's role better that deserve more of a franchise spot on that roster than him.

Honestly, some of the players that aren't on franchised teams for next year that literally play c0m's role and play it MUCH better yet EG keep him for what? In the hopes that the core3 will actually do something? Rosters like C9, 100T, NRG, even SEN if those leaks of the LOUD players is true will literally roll that roster. I just don't understand it.

Yeah I'm assuming BcJ or Supamen will pick up the IGL role? Just doesnt make any sense to keep c0m, like is he better than some of the un-signed tier1 talent currently in NA? probably not.

I think Jawgemo is rated enough, he's a really good player and can play alot of roles. He played pretty well this year once his role was more solidified but keeping c0m still just does not make any sense to me..

I can somewhat understand the keeping of Boostio but when you put his name against the ones you've mentioned it really doesnt make alot of sense. I honestly thought they would have dropped the whole roster and built around Jawgemo but it looks like they're keeping that core and hoping for the best.

I thought he was a decent addition to the roster initially but since coming into franchising and alot of teams are starting to be stacked for next year, To me I dont understand what he brings to that roster. No hate towards him ofcourse, I just think there are alot better players in NA that play the same role as him.

At this point it seems as if EG is keeping the core of c0m, Boostio, Jawgemo and bringing new additions of BcJ and supamen. Just wanted to know what the thoughts were about EG keeping c0m on the roster?

Yeah interesting really. I thought maybe Valyn would be picked up as an IGL possibly or even Trent as an initiator but its just so hard because in NA there are only 25 player slots so it becomes suuper tight when you get down to it all. Kinda surprised EG kept c0m if im completely honest.

Yeah I think some people forget alot of these Valorant Pro's actually have girlfriends or even wifes and it isn't easy to just up and move to a completely different country especially when you're not fluent in English either. I think alot of those things probably outweigh the money and org is going to pay you. At the end of the day he doesn't just have his own happiness to consider.

No I would call that throwing the kitchen sink at the literal last chance to do ANYTHING for the rest of the year. ShahZ has struggled since Iceland to adapt to the meta, play meta comps and overall IGL through a meta that is constantly moving forward. Their LCQ run wasn't anything to ride home about either if you really break it down. The most notable thing I think they did was took a map off 100T and The Guard who both teams were on dominate runs during that LCQ. The win against Shopify wasn't much to run home about, Shopify was COVID stricken and hadn't actually scrimmed or pracc'd in 2 weeks leading up to LCQ but I will say, they did look good on both of those maps Sentinels.

The game against 100T on the 3rd map shouldn't have been as close as it was and I think even 100T knows that. They were making alot of fundamental mistakes that was costing them rounds which in turn made SEN look alot better than what they really were. ShahZ has had his moments in his career where he's looked really good, but this year alone hasn't been a great year for him in terms of his IGLing. I understand they went through "some" roster iterations and the absense of sicK cost them abit but as an IGL it is your duty to lead your team to success and be able to make the right calls for your team and i'm sorry but he really didn't do well with that this year. ShahZ is a fantastic player mechanically and I'm sure an Ascension team or something will pick him up and be really happy with the investment but ShahZ's IGLing days I feel are over.

Can't even say OCE catching strays because you didn't even include us which was very ironic. Sad times :(

Oh absolutely, He has the potential to be one of the best or atleast up there with the best. Exciting times ahead for them I dont care what anyone says, This roster is an upgrade

Yeah Sacy is pretty good at calling and from what I've seen people say his English is pretty good too so I see this as an instant upgrade for SEN. Plus not to mention the coaching staff around them of Sykko and Kaplan, those 2 will get the absolute BEST out of TenZ. I feel like at times he was so under-utilized. Took SEN till their LAST LCQ run of that roster to FINALLY stick TenZ on Chamber...

I just don't like the fact they they're keeping c0m. No hate to him, I don't hate him I just think there is so much more better talent in NA that plays his role. I was honestly hoping they would drop the whole roster and build around Jawgemo but I guess they're thinking of keeping a core 3 and seeing how it pans out, seems silly but whatever.

Thats what I'm thinking. I think some are forgetting Ayrin and Dephh shared the IGL role which is not a horrible thing. TSM was doing it with gmD and Subroza and it was working well. FNATIC did the same with Enzo and Boaster. So many teams share the IGL roles between 2 people but there is always a solidified IGL.

I mean are you forgetting that Bob was actually pretty decent on Soniqs and EXO-Clan before C9W? Now they're around a better team that plays well with the way they play, and a different coaching staff. Sometimes to bring out someones FULL potential a different coaching staff can do wonders. C9W as a team has been dominate for awhile now, they all seem suuper close knit and understanding of how eachother plays.

Honestly I'm not the biggest Dephh fan but dude literally shits on ShahZ as an IGL. ShahZ couldnt fight his way through a fucking wet paper bag with instructions. I think the IGLing will be shared between Dephh and Sacy though so I think its a HUGE upgrade from ShahZ's awful calling over the last year. Dephh's calling before him and Ayrin started to share it was more a less average but once Ayrin took over the CT side calling they improved alot so i'm assuming something like this will happen again with this new SEN roster which again, HUGE upgrade. I'd like to see SEN become an actual team to watch again because watching them under ShahZ for the last year has been nothing but dissapointing. SEN as an org is really good at what they do, they bring alot of storylines and stuff to Valorant which is entertaining, they just need the roster to back it all up and by the sounds of it, they're finally getting back to that.

Very good player in OCE, super young so easily mouldable for the future, very good mechanics and aim. Probably up in the top 5 best OCE players right now easily. Really good entry duelist too.

I'm honestly surprised TSM is even keeping Rossy, I know they didn't make franchising but they've told us theyll be keeping a roster for Ascension league next year. I just honestly thought they would drop him.

No hate towards c0m or Boostio but I would have really loved to have seen EG just build around Jawgemo. Jawgemo is such an insane talent and i really think if you were going to keep anyone from that original line-up it would have been him. I'm not a massive fan of keeping c0m, I just struggle to see what he brings to a franchised Tier1 team, I mean I struggled to see what he did for EG in the first place. EG is really starting to prove what I thought might happen with them, Keep a core 3 in the hopes that it works and if it doesnt in like 6months time drop the whole roster and rebuild, which I think is really stupid but its completely up to them what they do.

Wronski is a really good entry duelist though, he isn't affraid to run it in with his team and pick the entry picks up. rDeeW is an insane Chamber player there is no doubting that, I always felt like rDeeW was the better Chamber compared to WRONSKI and WRONSKI was the better entry duelist. Would love to see rDeeW picked up by a team though, he absolutely deserves it.

Uhh maybe you should look at his profile. He played Kayo/Chamber for Akrew and was picked up in the same role for SEN, I just looked over his last 5 Officials with SEN and last 5 Officials with Akrew and the agents were pretty much identical, KAYO/Chamber/Skye...

I think the over all kit of Phoenix was good initially but as the meta has changed and new agents have been added like KAYO he gets played ALOT less, plus with agents like Raze and Neon, even Jett, their abilities can add alot more in terms of team play where as Pheonix's kit feels really outdated. Good agent on paper its just hes really outdated, his "buff" still needs a work I feel.

I don't like how they took out the damage for the Neon wall. It made sense to take it out for teammates so your teammates dont take damage but enemies it made sense. Now all you see is people literally just swinging into the wall and killing the Neon which kinda almost makes her wall useless, I feel like if the damage was there for the enemy they wouldnt just swing into it, although i still like how it functions, you can literally split the side of a site in half but the fact that people just swing it now almost makes the wall look bad.

I mean Kanpeki kinda fell off after Akrew too, c0m did alright on EG, nothing crazy though.

Had a meeting nothing crazy, average type day then finished it off with scrims tonight, not a bad day, scrims were fun.

Well whatever the case may be I'm sure you can catch him talking ALL about it on his favourite streaming platform tomorrow!

Too many Tiktok Andy's who troll games for views or people who legitimately stream snipe. Ranked is not in a good space, it hasn't been for awhile now an FPL type system will boost viewership too. People genuinely want to click on a stream on a random Thursday arvo and watch stuff like this and learn. I can only see FPL being a good thing and not a bad thing.

Exactly, the 100T roster, alot like OpTiC is like a brotherhood and they all trust eachother equally.

Oh 100%, Bang and Asuna's chemistry together is undoubtably some of the best, and its so vital to have on a team. I remember that LEV v FNATIC game and watching Boaster in that situation was sad to see, No hate towards Boaster, I truly think hes one of the best IGL's in Valorant but that round was awfully tragic.

Asuna can have a game where he does below average but hes the type of player who doesn't let it affect him and brings the numbers next, He's the guy you can rely on when the going gets tough, he digs deep and has some insane amount of experience at a Tier1 level. Bangs performance through LCQ was literally insane but everyone questioned could he do it on LAN come Champs? Well I'm pretty sure it spoke for itself, his ability to play controller the way he does, and be as dominate as he is, is nothing short of amazing, Bang is a solid player as much as everyone goes "OmG MaRvEd bEtTeR" stats dont mean shit compared to team chemistry and synergy, Especially when you're talking about a controller player. Having trust and synergy with your controller player is vital and 100T has that with Bang.

Catching strays man, always catching strays :(

EXACTLY! bro they literally had 5 months together, made an INSANE LCQ run and were extremely dominate in the lower bracket, Kicked the potential LCQ winners of FaZe out in a 3-0 fashion and made The Guard look awful when The Guard was really starting to get back into form. Not to mention they took 2 weeks off after LCQ before Champs as a break, got COVID and still beat FNATIC as their opener, as a 100T fan i was suuper proud of what they accomplished and I'm hoping they stay with this current roster, I love the addition of Cryo because we have lacked a consistent opper since dropping Dicey.

Did you forget how shit Marved played all of Champs and it wasn't until the game against DRX in the lower bracket final where he started to actually perform again? I'm not saying Marved is shit, I'm a massive fan of him, but Bang is easily one of the best controllers in NA next to Marved...

Man why you gotta bring us into it, it already hurts enough :(

Yeah I'm failing to see how Asuna is shit? Dude is widely known in NA to be one of the best players yet all these Bronze VLR users think he's shit? HUH!? bro carried 100T when they were at their lowest, Asuna deserves a spot on a franchised team are people forgetting how well he played in LCQ? With all the roster iterations of 100T, Asuna has always been suuper flexable picking up any role he's asked to and played it suuuuper well.

Well there ya go!

I mean you bring up a good point, but I'm pretty certain bob has been non-binary for awhile, like even back on Soniqs. They came from OCE originally and I don't think there was much of a Female scene here when the EXO-Clan got picked up to move to NA so they always played in male dominate Valorant. Obviously things are different here in OCE we now have a small Female scene but I don't think back then there was anything like that on offer, again, I could be wrong but its just from what i've observed.

Hasn't bob always identified as non-binary though? Or am I completely wrong in that sentence?

Yeah it's such a hard situation, problem is people will always find loop-holes and trying to keep those who are doing the wrong thing can easily fall back on the excuse that you are discriminating them

Yeah it's suuper hard to regulate and I feel like this is one of the reasons why its been so loosely regulated. If you hard regulate it then you piss alot of people off and get a bad name for yourself but if you don't regulate it then you get people abusing the system and find loop-holes. It's such a hard situation. Obviously there needs to be a female scene and a pathway into Tier1 female scene aswell, but regulating it on who's allowed in and not becomes really hard.

You are not real.

I'm not completely sure to be honest, and even then how would something like this be obtainable? from my understanding "nonbinary" is just a label they give themselfs that says they dont identify as male or female. The whole situation in my opinion is suuper hard to regulate without pissing people off. I think this is another reason why its been so loosely regulated as they dont want to piss others off.

I feel like there is enough talent in EU that they dont exactly need to look to other regions like NA, but I'm sure if a team had the option to import someone like yay for example they probably would, given there isn't any other talent readily availible. NA and APAC seem to be the only regions who want to dable in the form of imports. EU doesn't seem so interested so it seems.

Problem you face is, if you start to regulate this sort of stuff then people will say you're not inclusive to the "nonbinary" community and it'll just end up really messy. When you're dealing with this sort of stuff its like walking on eggshells. To be fair though, the fact that there are men who are pretending to be apart of a community they're not is fucking hella weird and basically points to the fact that they're just trying to farm money.

They had no choice, it's a Riot ruling? are you actually serious or are you fucking around?

You are seriously not all there if you think this is just "bullshit" it is widely known that it was not XSET asking for the replay but it was Riot who insisted they played the round over...