Look man be honest and tell me straight to my face that GenG in Shnaghai form would have lost to Edg. Only reason TH list is because they are a team of rookies that always choke BO5s. Edg might have won some regional titles, but they looked like an absolute clusterfuck of a team through 80% of the year, and they only turned up for champs. Also China would be a bum region with 0 good teams without Edg, so regional titles mean jackshit for them. Pissific is shit but at least they have some decent teams like Drx and PRX. Chinas #2 seed shit the bed big time after 1 close series against TH. Edg played very well, I can’t deny that, but if fnatic, g2, lev, sen, geng, and th didn’t kill each other first, one of them would have lifted the trophy. Run this tourney back rn and edg are out round 2. Genuinely look into your soul and ask yourself if you actually think that Edg are even in consideration for best team of the year, let alone actually the best.

Bro edited his comment 💀💀

Yeah it sounds bad when you say it like that, but if you actually put it in practice it would probably look a hell of a lot worse ngl

Fns never played well on initiator. It allowed him to lead better, as he could combo util and play with the team better, but he was never comfortable on these agents, then again he was never good individually anyways

Imma be honest ofc this roster would find results, but the roles are all fucked up. Here how I would run it:

Duelist: Derke- the more flexible duelist, he can play yoru raze and Jett all at a high level both aggressively and passively
Smokes: S0m/Demon1- S0m’s too good of a smokes player to take him off his role. I could see demon1 playing astra on pearl/split if they play double controller, as omen is def getting nerfed
Initiator: Ethan/Crashies- my pick would be crashies as his agent pool is better suited for the roster, but Ethan’s also an insane player
Flex: Fenis/Ethan- I think Ethan is a better flex player (he plays flashes, yoru, and omen compared to Fenis’s flashes and viper)
Senti: Demon1/Fenis- Demon1 played a lot of Kj and chamber before EG, and he’s passive enough on smokes to be comfortable on senti. Plus with split coming back he can play Jett like how meteor/alfa play senti normally but play duelist on double duelist comps.

In conclusion, put players on their comfort roles. Build comps around the players agents and playstyles, not vise versa

Fuck sen fans actually scum of the earth subhuman creatures

Bro wishes he was the mouse

Imma be fr there were so many times in champs were woot sold (especially on icebox) by aggroing with miniboo, or just aground in general. I think he’s an insane player but he’s not fully comfortable in the flex spot. 2025 he cooks everyone on any agent tho

Go outside dawg

He made it up

-Tuyz +Sato

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Loud. Liked them in 2022 but really appreciated them in 2023 after losing 2 players and a coach, still delivering extreme performances and only slightly falling short. Sadhaak 🐐🐐

eKo played on a full Japanese team, he speaks the language, he’s a good player, why not?

Imagine if Kadoom played for Boom that would be pretty funny

I thought dep wasn’t at his best but still played well in some series

How could I improve the roster

With Laz most likely retiring and the team in general having an abysmal performance last year, here’s the changes I propose (Side note: I haven’t watched a lot of VCJ and I’m only really somewhat familiar with the popular teams like fennel, scarz, etc. A lot of this is based on performance and ratings)

Keep:

Dep: Obviously insane player. Was the only good player other than laz, and I don’t think anyone would disagree that he shouldn’t go.

Drop:

Literally everyone else: Poor individual performances with little signs of growth from the two newcomers, I see very little reason for them to stay.

Sign:

eKo: Very solid player. I think he was good on geng early in their 2023 season, and is a solid initiator that can also frag.

CLZ: As fennel is disbanding, this would be a huge opportunity to pick up some huge talent.

Allen: Very solid smokes player, mainly picking him bc of 2023 results, and I think that if we plays like he did then that he could be a pretty serious addition.

SyouTa: Another solid ex fennel player. Don’t know much about them specifically but stats and agent pool look solid and they were on fennel

Roster:

Duelist: Dep
Scans: eKo
Flashes/IGL: CLZ
Smokes: Allen
Senti/flex: SyouTa

Let me know if I cooked or not

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Sen fan = opinion disregarded

We pray for the bags to speak 🙏🙏

You literally looked at my argument and went nuh uh not his fault lol. Also, how do you know that nobody in the Thai scene is as good as them? Where were the entirety of geng before 2024? Nobody cared about any of them except for maybe munchkin

Age doesn’t really matter that much (Fns and jessievash still have careers and they’re edging 65+)
Frost literally told primmie to igl abyss vs TS bc they didn’t scrim it and he was the only one who had any experience on it, and frost was betting on ts not picking it. Frost also constantly openly negatively criticizes the team while making no active moves to make positive changes.
If primmie doesn’t want to play duelist, put him on flex and take some young t2 Thai kid and put him on duelist instead
Full Thai allows the team to communicate better and connect more

No he hasn’t won shit as yet (not his fault he was subbed into a failing roster last minute)

Xand has an aura where entire of f0natic would flee at the sight of him

Duelist: Primmie
Senti: Jitboys
Smokes: Sscary
Initi: Cgrs
Flex: PTC

Conclusion: kick all the shit members, kick frost (bum coach), go full Thai, buy out sscary and save him from bl00d, make Thai valorant great again

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Ok buddy if you don’t understand something just say so, no need to play smart guy

The guy with a washed ass t2 flair said I have brain damage

Louder for the people in the back

Flair

Yeah, I was going to put Kajaak on the roster but apeks look too good atm, if go next ascend instead then maybe kajaak or someone can take the spot

Keep:

Grubibho: Rookie year on a shitty koi roster, I think individually he pulled his weight in frags, and looked sexy while doing it.

Drop:

Starxo: He won a trophy based on pure luck, and I don’t think he’s been a good player ever since. There’s a reason why he’s never seen anything since.

Shadow: Didn’t see much potential from him, both as an Igl and as a player.

Sheydos: Not a bad player, but his age combined with the fact that he hasn’t been able to perform on any role as of recent doesn’t sell him well for another year on KOI

Kamo: Again, not another bad player but I don’t have a place for him on my rebuild of the roster, and with how bad the clusterfuck of the roster was this year I think it’s OK if he goes.

Sign:

Patitek: Obviously great player in terms of agent pool, util, and performance. Put work in on TH and he has a good reason to stay.

Zeek: Been great recently, and I think that out of the original acend team he’s the only one other than cned with proper firepower.

Ardiis : Now that he’s off N0VI he has a chance to join a real team without Ang0l.

Nukkye: Solid player for giants, he can play sova and stuff but I think he’s been solid on senti these last two years.

Roster:

Smokes: Grubinho 🇵🇱
Initi/raze: Zeek 🇵🇱
Initi/jett: Ardiis 🇱🇻
Flex: Patitek 🇵🇱
Sentinel: Nukkye 🇱🇹

Idk who’ll igl, and the roles are a bit fuzzy but I think that with the firepower and experience (3 different trophies) it has a decent chance of working out. Plus we will have another proper eastern roster.

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Holy brain damage you’re actually retarded if you think apoth HELD EG back. This guy was so goated on senti, a role he flexed on. Go back to r/valcompetitive if you plan to spew bullshit

Bros work cited is intuition and a crack pipe 😭😭

Aspas has been more consistent over 3 years than oxygen has been over 1 split.

We need Shaz00b back

We need Shaz00b back

Thanks man I try 💙

Keep:

Apoth: This guy is insane man. He looks natural on senti and there’s been so many moments where he stands his ground and just straight out shuts the opponents down. Makes you think how pre demon1 eg didn’t go anywhere.

Supamen: Very similar to apoth, he’s been insanely good individually, especially in split 2. I don’t think there is a clear upgrade available right now.

Jawgemo: No need to explain.

Cut:

Derrek: He’s been much better this year, especially during split 1 and kickoff. I don’t think he’s been that great in the later year, though, and I think that even as a support player he has a huge place in T1.

Nature: Lots of EG’s problems late into league play came down to overcooking strats and poor mid rounding. I don’t think he’s a bad player, but maybe not the best IGL.

Sign:

Victor: Much needed firepower would massively help EG, plus he’s had veteran experience under a mastermind IGL. Additionally, his cypher/KJ during split 1/kickoff carried NRG many times.

Vanity: A big improvement strats wise. This would allow EG to properly utilize all the firepower, and his attack sided calling plus Potters mastermind is a match made in heaven.

Final roster:

Duelist: Jawgemo
Main initiator/IGL/flex: Vanity
Smokes: Supamen
Senti/second smokes: Apoth
Flashes/Senti: Victor

Coach: Potter

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Edit: GUYS I MEANT EG NOT C9 MY BAD CHAT 😭😭😭

Why are all the best players from each org leaving?? What justification is there?

Never cook again Jesus 😭😭

Koi should sign this guy and put him on initi/flex/senti

Emea duelist to support pipeline is real

Does jemkin speak indonesean?

Smartest SEN fan

Smokes: Monyet
Flex: Xferro
Senti: Xccurate
Duelist: Famouz
Initi: Kush

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Loud 3-0 Fnatic