i literally never said anything about simon, im just saying dont be surprised when edg arent making every lan and smoking chinese teams this year

fns is looking to take the crown

my king will find his throne

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im just saying the gap from 2023-2024 (which was MASSIVE) is what's happening to china rn. Edg looked exceptionally good at champs, but it boiled down a lot to individuals like chichoo and smoggy popping off like crazy, and maps like lotus being very hard to counter. especially as regional teams get better, edg cant rely on stellar gunplay to win games. also while cn teams are finding footing, they have played many more games in the offseason, and teams like wolves, xlg, and nova have ran many reps, which is one thing that helped sen a lot early this year (looking mid season form in the early season, bc they were early season form in the offseason)

YESSS

yo man your takes are fire

demon1 only was s tier 2023, c tier 2024

supa is s tier

cauan is high a tier at max (hurts me to say as a 2023 loud fan)

eeiu was top 2 initi amer last year, defo s tier

solid list 7.5/10

bc th achieved incredible things with essentially 3 different rosters in 1 year, in the most fluid and competitive region in 2024. While emea has gotten even better, i think that th (even though they didnt "upgrade" on paper) will be dominant, at least early in the season when teams are trying to find their footing

why tf is vlr like this can we stop pandering to characters

edg will fall, the skill gap in china is rapidly closing with the rest of the world, let alone nationally. edg were only good during champs last year, the rest of the year everyone else sucked more than them

jesus runner had a stinker

ay man im just a believer

tl did everything right this offseason

Gimme whatever youre smoking

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"I'm not like the other girls"

Nah but fr it's

Amer: Nrg, Kru
Emea: Th, Tl
Pac: T1, Prx
China: Te, Wol

they shouldve 2023, missed their chance

yeah ive watched them fall apart

most valid post ever

the 100t rule is they can only be good for no more than 1 event a year or else nadeshot fucking dies

dog you are not delusional just bandwagon

yo wait our pickems are hella similar

What are teams you have a 4th dimensional feeling are going to do well (2024 th, 2023 eg)

For me it's GE (kristal + patrickwho looking good)

straightest vlr user behold

"factually" bro this is a vlr thread about who we THINK is the goat, it's an opinion (which can be backed up by facts, like i have done), but at the end of the day there is no factual goat my guy

hell yeah brother

leaf, jemkin, ardiis

hear me out:

TL
TH
GX

I have a very strong hunch

eg entire storyline was a huge upset

very clever :)

there we go. if you cant understand my argument and just disagree then dont try and converse. just move on if an opinion other than yours seems to kill you

he is bruh wake up

but i'm arguing that he has...

are you seeing what im trying to say, or are you just intentionally taking shots in the dark??

._. why are derrek and nature still in t1...

since everyone's flaming me let me just say derrek isnt horrible its just he tumbled pretty hard throughout the year. Started really well but downhill since, hasnt looked world class since rbhg 2022

nature on the other hand is very mediocre, and the only reason it looks like hes staying on is bc him and potter must sync well, but i think that someone like stellar would fill his shoes tenfold

amer flag + nrg flair go back to baiting what are you doing here

he is very near the goat debate, just bc he hasnt won anything doesnt mean he cant contend. For example someone like mako would probably be the goat of smokes, bc hes been consistently good on astra, omen, viper, and brim for 3 years straight, even though drx/vs hasnt ever won anything

if trexx is and has been on par with leo, which you claim is the goat, how come others are "far more prestigious"?

make it make sense

MY GOAT

eg - mid team plus it looks like theyre keeping either nature or derrek
c9 - always go crazy with roster moves, have good regular season, but never really make anything of it
loud - mid igl plus saadhak made players like tuyz and pancada into the forces that they were
2g - losing their best player hurts + mid ascension team, although gobera might not be horrible
lev - 2024 nrg incoming. they could be fine if demon1 and natank play better than they did last year

one of the prx fans of all time

i agree with you but there are a hundred other options. best one rn looks like stellar. mad underrated plus 2 igl = ultra strats

didnt you get hard baited by westjett into crying and malding for content?

srsly that guys a bum but it says a lot about you as well, especially considering your history with beef towards other people

grow up man, if the words arent true they wont hurt you

both teams were international pacific teams that barely made one lan only to get grouped

one team decided to go full national in order for the players to communicate better, understanding that even though their current players were good and they had potential, that they had to make actual upgrades to achieve the highs that they hoped for the previous year

the other team got a slightly above average but unproven talent, and decided that because they made lan, regardless of how they did, should keep their entire roster, even though there were clear issues in terms of individual players and communication

which team is more likely to succeed?

Leo falling sick resulted in him not doing well and him as well as fnc falling off

Yes, he stopped playing bc of his sickness, im not disagreeing

I literally offered evidence that trexx can go par for par with leo

If you dont want to actually discuss then dont rage post, accept that even if you disagree, youre wrong and just tilting on vlr wont make you any more correct

ay the mans happy good for him

initi is the most balanced class. no other role has been as peaceful as current initi. no need to fix what isnt broken. also the next agent is an initi

less age isnt crazy but i could swear aspas was like pushing 30 with a wife and kids while still styling on kids half his age

its over

LEV AND VIT ARE BOTH MID. M. I. D. M. I. D.

oh no.