Facts, still amazes me that Cloud9 were going to bench such a talented player with so much potential

True

Fr, Flight's has got nothing on Bunny's movement

Who's better?
Ninim or Wronski

Interesting, I'll look forward to watching him
Sadly I'll be cheering for Vikings in his upcoming match tho

The only player in Korea that rivals BuZz's Jett is t3xture (hyeoni needs to get a real team to tell how good he is)
BuZz > Meteor, Allow, Bunny

Haven't watched much of this guy except for in the Havan Liberty game
Does he tend to awp or is he more of a rifle Jett like ScreaM?

Both are insane
ScreaM is just goated

I think there is a 95% chance we see VLT vs GE as the grand finals
If India doesn't take the VCC slot, I think it would be a massive failure for the scene

Also pretty sure I read something that said all games would be played on Mumbai servers (really unfair imo)

I don't see enough people talking about how good Shao, ScreaM, and BuZz are on Jett

I know they aren't on TenZ/Cned's level, but they deserve some respect

Idk, autimatic is a good duelist but I don't think he's as strong as Yay/Wardell yet
Also I feel like not putting corey above Yaboidre/leaf is criminal (coming from a C9 fan)

My list would be:
1) TenZ
2) Asuna
3) Yay
4) Corey
5) SicK

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However, I'd argue that China is much further ahead of India in terms of Esports
They already have a large amount of competent esport organizations that aren't looking to scam their players

I also think that Riot are more interested in growing the Chinese scene then the Indian one (not saying it's the right choice)

FaZe or Rise
They don't care about their brand

Pretty hard to tell because they are by far the strongest Korean team ever and they are yet to show a lot of their "set plays"
I'd say they should be expected to make top 8 atleast, but here's an overview on why they are so strong:

Don't have a weak link on their six-man roster
Incredibly strong map pool (they play all 6 maps, although they are a little less confident on breeze and split)
Very good coaches, now including glow
The ability to have set plays while being a very reactionary team

Riot officially released info on the LCQ slots here: https://www.vct.gg/news/132559-epic-fight-for-final-champions-spot-last-chance-qualifier

The info was quickly deleted, but it stated that the LCQ Asia slots would look like this:
-3 SEA
-2 KR
-2 JP
-1 VCC
-2 CN
(10 teams in all)

Wondering why riot would delete this info and whether it is even true at all
Thoughts?

Anyone else get people who are on +200 ping? Like what is even the point of playing...
Had an instalocking Jett on Breeze play with consistent +1050 ping (he went 0-17)

China has a population of nearly 1.4 billion
They have the potential to be good at anything, as long as they are interested in it

Too much time
Also I hurt my hand typing this ;-;

You dare challenge me?

Sentinels
Envy
100 Thieves
Version1
FaZe Clan
XSET
Luminosity
Cloud9 Blue
Gen.G
Rise
TSM
Fnatic
Team Liquid
Acend
Gambit Esports
SuperMassive Blaze
Futbolist
Oxygen Esports
Guild Esports
forZe
FunPlus Phoenix
BBL Esports
G2 Esports
Giants Gaming
Team Vikings
Sharks Esports
Furia
Gamelanders Blue
Havan Liberty
NOORG 2.0
Stars Horizon
Vivo Keyd
KRU Esports
Six Karma
Infinity Esports
Australs
Lazer
Border Monsters
Nuturn
Vision Strikers
F4Q
Damwon Gaming
Crazy Racoon
Zeta Division
Reject
Northeption
X10 Esports
Full Sense
BOOM Esports
Bren Esports
Paper Rex
CBT Gaming
Cerberus Esports
Alter Ego
Team Big BAAM
Velocity Gaming
Exceeli Esports
Team Exploit
Crash Landin on You
Damaru Gaming
Global Esports
Salt Esports
Enigma Gaming
Order
Wildcard Gaming
Mindfreak
Peace
Straight Outta The Zoo
Nebula
Team Bliss
Dire Wolves
Team Duelist
NASR Esports
Fox Gaming
Team RA’AD
YaLLa Esports
Team Majesty
Piercer Esports
Fraggerz
Zerah Esports
SCYTES Esports
Lusail Esports
BRATVA
Anubis Gaming
La7zag Esports
Psycho Family
Cairo City G’zzz

87 teams, including Sentinels
This list assumes the EMEA challengers have 9 EU teams rather then 7, based off of vlr's format

1

Bren to Berlin!

1) Zellsis didn't play in Stage 3: Challengers 1
2) Meta evolved into less of a post plant simulator (still too much post-plant utility imo tho)
3) Teams in NA got a lot better in Stage 3, with a lot of T2 teams becoming T1.5

I'm scared

If SEN win Berlin, TSM will take the left over LCQ cause SEN will take the Masters 3 slot to champions

Yes, but you may have to support SEN supremacy

There are only 87 teams left that can still qualify for Champions (86 if you don't include SEN)

What do the slots look like for the LCQ EMEA?

Liquipedia says 7 EMEA slots and 1 MENA slot
Vlr says 9 EMEA slots and 1 MENA slot

Wondering which one is true cause I'd rather have it be 10 teams instead of 8, like the NA LCQ

Larger amount of fans = larger amount of toxic/delusional fans

Bit too early to start predictions for LCQ
Too much is decided by Berlin's results

I've heard that helps

Turkish W

Happy for the Turkish fans, they finally have someone to cheer for on lan :)

I'd make a few changes:
1) Acend
2) SMB
3) Gambit
4) G2
5) Guild/Liquid
6) NAVI/Giants
7) forZe/FPX
8) FF/Oxygen

The magic of the internet :/

EMEA Top 5 (imo):
1) Acend
2) SMB
3) Gambit
4) G2
5) Liquid/Guild

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I 100% think that once the CS scene transfers to valorant, EU will be the strongest region by far
Also I am aware that competition has risen over time in the region, which is why FPX, BDS, and Fnatic look weaker (should have made it clearer which teams are weaker and which teams got caught up to)

However, you can't tell me that teams like NiP, Alliance, and Heretics haven't gotten significantly weaker, rather then the region just catching up

This thread was just made to look at the two regions top teams on paper and, IMO, NA is stronger right now, in terms of the amount of top teams

Gambit and Guild

SMB are insane
G2 aren't bad
Guild will beat them if they play like today though

Read. I did not say they weren't the best EMEA region, I said they weren't better then NA as a region
This also has nothing to do with the SMB win

Should've worded it better
It's not really 'falling off' when the teams just implodes

Yeah, but even before that, it seemed like a lot of EU teams were falling off
Heretics got nuked, NiP lost their IGL, Alliance disappeared

Is it just me, or has EU as a region gotten a lot weaker between Stage 2 and Stage 3? I mean looking at the teams:

Stronger: Acend, G2, Guild (draken buff), Giants, tenstar, Finest, Rix.GG

Too Inconsistent to tell: Liquid, Vitality

Weaker: Fnatic, Heretics, BDS, FPX, NiP, Alliance, Wave

Now comparing it with NA:

Stronger: Sentinels, 100 Thieves, Envy, XSET, FaZe Clan, TSM, Gen.G (debatable), Rise, T1, Ghost, Luminosity, Pioneers

Too Inconsistent to tell: Soniqs

Weaker: Cloud9, Version1, Renegades, Immortals, Andbox, NRG

I mean now that I look at it, on paper, NA as a region is probably better then EU

(This does not apply to EMEA btw, TR and CIS both have improved an insane amount)

SMB are just really good, but something seems off with G2 aswell
Maybe they should unplug their router and replay tomorrow...

And people really thought this version of G2 could beat SEN on lan...

Which team do you guys think is better between the new G2 and the old Heretics?
(Not including Niesow cause that'd be a no brainer)

NAVI brought Acend to a close OT and Gambit are 7-0 against NAVI
Still think Acend will win, but it will be closer then people think

-hazed
->Transfer bang and maybe leviathan to Academy team
+Thwifo (IGL & Sentinel)
+Andersin (Smokes & Anchor)
+Sinatraa (meme at this point, but if he's on the market, why not)

#C9WIN
Always supporting my boys poiz and xeta

They should do it like LoL worlds where they have 24 teams instead of 16

https://www.vlr.gg/pickem/12f8cb59

Sadge, the copium got to me